Poll: Does anyone really care if people are gay anymore?

[Xanadeas]

And would people stop using the term "homophobic". Nobody is scared of gay people, nobody is scared that they are secretly gay. It is a bullshit term meant to make people who aren't into the gay culture look like bigots. Why don't we start saying "straightophobe" too?

You're not an English major, are you? Homophobic is the official word in the English language for somebody who fears or discriminates against gay people. You don't have to use the word, that's fine. But you're going to be hard pressed to have Mirriam-Webster stop publishing it.

I don't use the word to make straight people who "aren't into the gay culture" look like bigots. I use the word to make bigots look like bigots.

I know there's too many of these topics when I have to repeat myself every couple weeks.

No, I'm not an English major, not that I ever claimed to be anyways. What if someone doesn't fear gay people, and doesn't discriminate against them? For example, somebody who just doesn't agree with it, but has no problem dealing with gays on a regular basis, and can be quite nice to them, because we are all people. Would that person be a homophobe, or is it alright to disagree with the lifestyle while at the same time being respectful of their individual rights? Is that person a bigot because they can repectfully disagree, or can they just have the right to an opinion like everyone else?

I am against abortion, and would take part in protests or whatever, but I would never go up to a woman who has had an abortion and scream in her face. See what I'm saying?

No it wouldn't. The term homophobe would not apply to that individual. If you yourself try to apply that word to someone as you described that would be using the word improperly. Homophobe/ic/ia is used to describe someone that is afraid of or discriminates against someone that is a homosexual.

 

[Kyoufuu]

One thing I've always wondered.

If sexual preference is not chosen, where do paedophiles fit in?

 

[uncle-ellis]

I have some friends that tried to convince me that gay was a mental illness.
then when I argued with them they called me a creationist for not believing in evolution.

 

[Bendon]

One thing I've always wondered.

If sexual preference is not chosen, where do paedophiles fit in?

Between 8 year old legs

OH

sorry.

 

[MusicalFreedom]

Maybe there should be some kind of LGBT megathread or something, if it's necessary.

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wouldnt the fact that it would be seperated be insulting to some? segregation?... ok i am just kidding but it would still not be appropriate, it would be like a government supported gay zone and homosexuallity not being permitted outside the zone.

I said thread, not forum / subforum. Megathread. And no, it would just put all of the LGBT topics in one thread, easier than scattered all over the place, and doesn't have people complaining about all those damn gay threads

edit: Kyoufuu, paedophilia has no place in this discussion whatsoever

 

[Kyoufuu]

Removed.

 

[lwm3398]

im catholic but i don't care. and it's not because i'm gay (hell no) i just don't care. anyone can do anything they want as long as it's legal. i'm no homophobe.

 

[lwm3398]

I have some friends that tried to convince me that gay was a mental illness.
then when I argued with them they called me a creationist for not believing in evolution.

but if you don't believe in evolution,most ARE creationists. but they're pretty dumb if they think you denying that it's a mental illness makes you a creationist.

 

[Ziren]

This is about it not being choice, right? Why do gay people get special treatment, if both groups don't have a choice?

Because gay people can give consent, while children can't, which makes acting out pedophilia by definition rape.


To the topic at hand: My best friend is a bisexual transwoman, I know a couple of other homo-/bisexual people and would place myself as a one on the Kinsey scale. So no, I don't think being gay is an issue.

 

[Kyoufuu]

I have some friends that tried to convince me that gay was a mental illness.
then when I argued with them they called me a creationist for not believing in evolution.

...What?
...why would someone NOT believing that it's a mental illness be a creationist???

 

[Evil_Valentine_Marshmallow]

I remember when I was with some friends and one of them said the actor who played gandalf is gay and he felt really disappointed by it, while the other, in his homophobic rage, said that gays shouldn't be allowed as actors etc. etc. etc. while I just sat there and said. "Why does it even matter?" I still ask that question, why does somebody being gay even matter? This is like going back in time to when women and blacks didn't have equal rights. I think gays and lesbians should protest like women back in the day.

 

[Gladion]

I remember when I was with some friends and one of them said the actor who played gandalf is gay and he felt really disappointed by it, while the other, in his homophobic rage, said that gays shouldn't be allowed as actors etc. etc. etc. while I just sat there and said. "Why does it even matter?" I still ask that question, why does somebody being gay even matter? This is like going back in time to when women and blacks didn't have equal rights. I think gays and lesbians should protest like women back in the day.

It's just that there are less homosexuals than women on our planet. So there was pretty much no choice but to give them the rights they wanted, since they had some sort of power.

But who gives a shit about those damn faggots anyways? [/sarcasm] (gee, I hate how I need to say I'm being sarcastic)

 

[Xanadeas]

I remember when I was with some friends and one of them said the actor who played gandalf is gay and he felt really disappointed by it, while the other, in his homophobic rage, said that gays shouldn't be allowed as actors etc. etc. etc. while I just sat there and said. "Why does it even matter?" I still ask that question, why does somebody being gay even matter? This is like going back in time to when women and blacks didn't have equal rights. I think gays and lesbians should protest like women back in the day.

It's just that there are less homosexuals than women on our planet. So there was pretty much no choice but to give them the rights they wanted, since they had some sort of power.

But who gives a shit about those damn faggots anyways? [/sarcasm] (gee, I hate how I need to say I'm being sarcastic)

That's quite true there are less of us fags than women but that doesn't mean we can't protest for rights. In fact, people DO protest for the same rights it's just that it doesn't do as much good due to the lack of numbers. If more heterosexuals/bisexuals/asexuals/whatever were to actually aid in the protesting it wouldn't be as much a problem.

 

[veryboringfact]

Apparently enough people care about gays to make this thread go 8 pages.
On a wider note, the more people bang on about gays and their rights the more neutral/apathetic people will become alienated and take a hostile position on the subject.

 

[aww yea]

heh heh yes ive heard a lot of these arguments before

and to be totally honest i dont have much of a comeback except that if i had a choice i would be living in forest

 

[mshcherbatskaya]

I don't like homosexuality becuase it's existance casts a nasty shadow over friendship between men. When I'm among males I don't expect anything that has something to do with mating rituals. It's like having enemies in your ranks.

Enemies? Wow, that's a really...adversarial view of sex you have there. Not condemning, just noting.

Apparently enough people care about gays to make this thread go 8 pages.
On a wider note, the more people bang on about gays and their rights the more neutral/apathetic people will become alienated and take a hostile position on the subject.

There might be people who are so weak-minded as to allow simple irritation to form their political views, rather than actually thinking about things, but I wouldn't call them neutral/apathetic, I'd call them lazy/apathetic.

 

[JC175]

One thing I've always wondered.

If sexual preference is not chosen, where do paedophiles fit in?

Children usually aren't sexually active or aware, or mature enough to enter relationships. That's the difference, and the fact that a lot of paedophilia involves rape.

 

[Gladion]

I remember when I was with some friends and one of them said the actor who played gandalf is gay and he felt really disappointed by it, while the other, in his homophobic rage, said that gays shouldn't be allowed as actors etc. etc. etc. while I just sat there and said. "Why does it even matter?" I still ask that question, why does somebody being gay even matter? This is like going back in time to when women and blacks didn't have equal rights. I think gays and lesbians should protest like women back in the day.

It's just that there are less homosexuals than women on our planet. So there was pretty much no choice but to give them the rights they wanted, since they had some sort of power.

But who gives a shit about those damn faggots anyways? [/sarcasm] (gee, I hate how I need to say I'm being sarcastic)

That's quite true there are less of us fags than women but that doesn't mean we can't protest for rights. In fact, people DO protest for the same rights it's just that it doesn't do as much good due to the lack of numbers. If more heterosexuals/bisexuals/asexuals/whatever were to actually aid in the protesting it wouldn't be as much a problem.

Yes, that is pretty much what I was going for, didn't point that out clearly though heh.