Poll: Does being racist instantly make you a bad person?

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Guitarmasterx7

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Unless they actually act on their racism, I could care less. There are certainly worse things that could happen to the world than someone throwing the N word around while not in the presence of anyone who would be offended by it.
 

tehweave

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If a person is prejudiced to another person simply because of the color of their skin, said person is a bad person.
That may be an ironic statement because that makes me prejudiced against someone because he/she is prejudiced against someone because of the color of their skin. That being said, racism is bad. People who are racist are bad people.

Now this does not mean you can't be friends with bad people. Heck, even I keep a few rotten eggs in my friends circle just because.
 

Squarez

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Simply put, they are a bad person. You could have probably guessed that answer just by looking at my avatar, though.
 

Spectre39

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Nah, he's a good guy. There's only two scenarios that should concern you with this friend. 1) You may have to make a choice between who you will be able to associate with. IE: Your friend won't hang out with you if you are in the company of that group. 2) You would have a moral obligation to object to any action that your friend does to aggressively discriminate against that race. You know, racial slurs used in public, any racial violence... basically anything racially motivated done against that group.

Aside from that you shouldn't have any problems, really. That's his opinion and you don't know why he holds those beliefs. Could be trauma at the hands of those people, could be the way his parents raised him, who knows? It's not your place to question it or try to fix him. Maybe he's still growing up and needs some real world experience before he reconsiders his ways.

If the only "upkeep cost" of that friend is having to roll your eyes or change the subject whenever he goes on a tirade, I'd say that's pretty cheap. The real evil is to axe a loyal friend out of political correctness.
 

Cluskey

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This is just something I've been thinking of recently, and I wanted to know the Escapist's view toward this. I'll keep my opinion out of it so I don't affect anyone else.

So, imagine you have a friend of the same colour and sex as you. This person is a good friend, you like them alot. They donate to charity, they make jokes you find funny and they're always there for you in a pinch. They've done alot for you.

Then say, one day, you and your friend see someone of the opposite colour and start a conversation about them. Your friend is quite racist toward them, specifically stating that they don't like people of that person's colour.

I'm just curious as to how you, the Escapist public, would respond to this. Would you instantly call them out on it? Would you respect their opinion even if you don't agree with it, or alternatively, if you do agree with it? Would you try and change them? And ultimately, would it affect your friendship to the point where you would consider no longer being friends with them?

Disclaimer: Just so everyone knows, I am NOT trying to justify racism. I just don't want to put my own opinion in here incase it affects anyone's answer.

Edit: I'm not entirely sure where this use of the word "evil" has come from here. If that's what you think of when I said a "bad person", that's perfectly fine, but I'm not specifically asking if they're evil or not.
Just so that you read my opinion on it. NO i do not think a person who does this is a bad person. Free will IMHO right. Even if this persons racism affected another person to the degree that they attack someone of a different ethnic group. That does not make the first racist person "bad". It makes the person who attack them BAD. People are entitled to their own opinions. Whether people act on them is entirely their choice. People can quite easily make up their own mind as to whether they agree with their friends opinion. People should be given free choice to hear all things and act as they will. Hate to sound to much like GOD, but we have free will and it is our decision whether something affect us or not.

This person would be EVIL/BAD person if the situation was different if it violoted the free will rule. For example saying all these "racist" things to a child that is very impressionable. The liability would IMO come on both child and bad person.

People hear things everyday whether the construe them in to affecting our actions in our choice.

Thank you.
 

Soushi

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if you judge someone about something they simply can't help, or can't change about themselves, then yes, you are a bad person. And anyone who does the whole "well, i just come by these views naturally" or anyhting like that, to justify htier prejiduce, is a liar as well as a horrible person.
If you are racist, you are trying to drive a wedge between differnet parts of what should be a unified species. NOw, just becasue you are a bad person, doesn't mean that you don't do nice things. I am pretty sure that Hitler petted a few puppies in his day, that those who supported the appartied gave thier kids candy from time to time, but none of that matters in the face that they judges others by the colour of thir skin and the blood in thier viens.
I don't care who you are, where you were raised, what your daddy or granddaddy told you, or what your religious texts tell you,if you are racist towards somebody then you are little more than human rubbish, end of the discussion.
 

nick n stuff

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not a bad person...to you. to others he is a racist. Hitler had good friends but he is still a dick as far as others are concerned
 

Woodsey

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These days I struggle to tell whether they're racist because they're morons or because they're bad people.

It can depend - generally if you're racist you're a ****. Having said that, 75+ year olds come from a time when it was acceptable and, let's face it, old people don't adapt all that well - so I wouldn't call them bad necessarily. HAVING SAID THAT, there are plenty in that age group that aren't racist.
 

dbungus2000

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stereotypes are there for a reason, and when that behavior of that race gets on my nerves, then thats there fault for perpetuating that stereotype.
 

Tharwen

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I'm going to be a bad person and bring religion into this, because it's a good parallel which, even if you don't agree with my point, should make it easier to explain myself. Basically, if someone is brought up believing something that is incorrect, as with religion, is it bad of them to keep believing it throughout their life and using it as guidelines for their actions? No. It just means that they are ignorant or misguided. The same can be said of racism.

If the person can offer a good argument for racism, then they may have a point, but I don't believe there are any. Also, it's perfectly natural to be wary of people who look different. We evolved to trust those related to us, and to shun people who we know are outside our own little community. Being a different colour makes it very clear to our subconscious minds that someone is from a different community.
 

Pegghead

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Well I don't see the justification in judging somebody on simply the colour of their skin, their background or their creed but I find that it stems less from being evil (Because let's face it, it's in the nature of most humans that if my friend saw that person on the ground injured they'd probably try to help them regardless of their previously held beliefs) and more from simply being misinformed, misguided or mistreated in the past.

I probably wouldn't disown them as a friend, I've had friends make remarks about my background and beliefs but I've done the same, it's something we do as friends in good humour and if we can stay together after that amongst ourselves then surely we could do that when somebody else entirely is taking the prejudice, if it was bad enough I'd probably just snap at them to have some respect and then try to leave it at that (Because honestly if there's one thing that brings my piss to a boil it's prejudice).
 

bam13302

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saying you dont like a particular race, and doing something against that race are different, stating that you dont like a race (or really any general group of people) is not in it self evil. Acting on that in a negative way towards that race would be.
if you heard a black man say "The white man is keeping me down" yes, that is technically racist, no, that is not evil.
dont get me wrong, it would strongly affect my opinion of them
 

GundamSentinel

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It's human nature to be racist, yes it is. Some of us have gotten over it, some haven't. That doesn't make you a bad person, or even necessarily ignorant. Some people just have their reasons to hold on to their preconceptions. I do not. And as has been said, it's not racism that makes you a bad person, it's acting on it.
 
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I would say they're ignorant and close-minded. As for whether or not they're a bad person, I think it depends on why they are racist. My dad, for example, was racist because he was raised that way.
 

Le_Lisra

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emily123 said:
Le_Lisra said:
emily123 said:
FutureHousedad said:
emily123 said:
not really thats there opinion i dont judge me personally have been called a nzi many times and to be quite frank i am a bit of a neo nazi
.......You realize nazi's are definitively evil....so essentially you just called yourself evil.
you sir are a extremly stupid man

hitler geobles georing and himmler were evil the party itself was dragged down with it and burned but from the ashes of shame and hate the neo-nazi's arose we do not hate other race we believe in discipline and order not sgregation and degragation

we hate hitler and all that he put the world throught and want only peace
we seek to unite not destroy yes the gestapo and ss were evil we are not
Then for fucks sake don't call yourself that.. really.. because it clearly shows you have no understanding of what it means.
neo- nazi means reformist nazi it means that WE do not hate other races WE simply think that if you cannot compete then fuck off and die out

the nazi party existed long before hitler came along and defiled it.
so dont preach about ignorance you pathetic little man
Oh this is very cute indeed. Feels good insulting me? What a sweet fellow you are.

I've been taught more about your so cherished nazis than some people studying history. As a German I live with the historical shame and the shame of still having your reform pals around. Don't try to explain yourself, there's no way you could. In the end you'll be going down just like the Reich did and good thing too.

Now stop defiling my inbox by quoting me again. There's no point in talking to the likes of you.