Poll: Does Hardcore = Guns in Games?
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Hardcore is always confused that way. I would consider quite a few good turn-based strategy games hardcore. They have a steep-learning curve and are extremely demanding of the player. But they would make many modern "Hardcore Gamers" wail in confusion.Jandau said:
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I'm going to go out on a limb and postulate that the difference between casual and 'hardcore' games is that the hardcore games aren't casual games.
Seriously though, the difference has nothing to do with guns per se, it's down to elements like realism, immersion, universe creation, narrative structure, and difficulty: Casual games very rarely aspire for realism, keep people playing because they're bloody addictive rather than outlets for escapism, rarely have much if any real 'setting' beyond simple window dressing for the underlying game mechanics, rarely have stories, and tend to be on the easy side of the difficulty scale.
Now taken on their own, any one element on that list isn't enough to brand something a casual title - quite a few games the broad consensus would consider 'hardcore' don't have much of a story, realism isn't something hardcore titles necessarily have in spades either, etc. But it's not one key difference that makes the distinction, it's a combination of most of those that get something labeled as a casual game.
And that which is not casual is therefore a 'hardcore' title by virtue of falling on one side of the "casual vs hardcore" gamer divide.
Seriously though, the difference has nothing to do with guns per se, it's down to elements like realism, immersion, universe creation, narrative structure, and difficulty: Casual games very rarely aspire for realism, keep people playing because they're bloody addictive rather than outlets for escapism, rarely have much if any real 'setting' beyond simple window dressing for the underlying game mechanics, rarely have stories, and tend to be on the easy side of the difficulty scale.
Now taken on their own, any one element on that list isn't enough to brand something a casual title - quite a few games the broad consensus would consider 'hardcore' don't have much of a story, realism isn't something hardcore titles necessarily have in spades either, etc. But it's not one key difference that makes the distinction, it's a combination of most of those that get something labeled as a casual game.
And that which is not casual is therefore a 'hardcore' title by virtue of falling on one side of the "casual vs hardcore" gamer divide.
Yeah, I got a habit using it since many forums on which I posted filtered the word "ass" by default, but "arse" was often unaffected. Granted, Escapist doesn't use any language filters, but the habit has stuck.Fat_Hippo said:
And yes, "arse" is a superior word to "ass".
Exactly the example I was gonna use. Whether a game is 'hardcore' or not depends on how difficult it is and how much time you have to put in it.Kollega said:
Another game that I would consider to be hardcore is Ninja Gaiden. That was bloody hard.
Although I would say that CS could be termed as quite a hardcore FPS game.
that may be the difference between casual and hardcore gamers, but not games.Bhaalspawn said:
the hardcore gamer plays plants vs zombies for 6 hours a day, the casual for 10 minutes. the question is: is plants vs zombies a hardcore game?
my answer is: who gives a flying monkeys if it is or not. casual game vs hardcore game is a debate as stupid as is xbox or ps3 better.
stick to what you like, dont rag on what other people prefer.
Yeah those twelve -year-old Xbox owners who think they are "TEH HARDCOREZ!!!!!!11111!!!!!" because they play Gears of War which has lots of homoerotic macho-ness and blood are funny even though Gears is about as casual as a TPS gets.
MY MIND - WHY YOU DO THIS?????Arcticflame said:
How can you possibly play that without becoming hypnotised or seizing?
EDIT: From the youtube comments - "What if Japan used that final boss in a war against the US?"
"We'd be fucked!" "Forever their slaves!"