You speak the truth, however, proper "eye for an eye" would mean that the conflict stopped pretty soon, and there wouldn't have to be long lasting feuds between clans or whatever, since if someone from clan A murdered someone from clan B, then it would stop with the death of someone from clan A. But yeah, human nature doesn't allow for it, that and so many other things.Asturiel said:
I don't think we need to give the guns nuts MORE reasons to complain that they need bullet-piercing ammunition. Honestly.Robby Foxfur said:
I know that it doesn't happen like that in practise. The scales would be even, but most people refuse to accept that. V kills Z for revenge, well now V needs to die to even it back out.BonsaiK said:
Childlike logic, founded in revenge and unable to distinguish that from justice.TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Really? Then explain to me how the 'Scales' of Justice work? I have no idea how if you kill someone, you get a few years in a prison, all expenses paid, and that is considered an equal punnishment. It's hard out there. It would be nice to spend 6 years without having to work a day or spend a cent. Most prisons have libraries and fitness facilities, so there would be no shortage of things to do.funguy2121 said:
I'll respond to the "scales" comment first, since it was your comment and not something that I said. The flaw in your logic of which I spoke pertains to your belief in "scales" in the first place, as is your apparent need to experience "fairness." Fairness is an adolescent concern. In your life, others who are not as smart, capable, good or deserving will be promoted faster than you. Fairness is not a concern of mine. Comparing the good and bad in myself to the good and bad in others is not a concern of mine. This is how the "scales of justice" works...it's a broken machine, a logic based on a myth, that a utopia of fairness is attainable and that every misdeed will be properly punished without negative result. As I said, you confused-no, confuse-justice with revenge. If we get a murderer/terrorist/rapist/Bernie Madoff off the street where he can harm innocent people, then justice is served. If we can chase the big bully across the playground and hit him once for every time he hit us, that is revenge. And it is as childish as it is ineffective.TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
Durhur, stoopid Gandhi! The world does not have eyes with which to become blind due to the loss of them!IdealistCommi said:
First of all, I really do think a perfectly 'fair' Utopia would be possible, someday. Not in my life time, but maybe eventually.funguy2121 said:
Please, someone tell me if I'm looking at this the wrong way, but, are you arguing that the eye-for-an-eye system is worthless because, in fact, brutal crimes like rape and murder are NOT worth punishing because it happens out in nature, and somehow this is HUMAN SOCIETY'S fault? Society, which, despite your obviously deep-seated belief that every human being is a soulless, sociopathic monster out to slaughter everyone else for fun and a quick buck, is built around the concept that we don't HAVE TO use violence to solve every problem, and that depriving another person of life or control of their own body is, in fact, NOT GOOD? Humans are unpleasant animals to be sure, and we have a long track record of doing awful things to each other. But the intelligence you were quick to claim is being wasted is also the reason why we are more than our base impulses, because we CAN judge between right and wrong, and we CAN decide that violence can be punished, and THAT is WHY we hold ourselves to a higher standard of morality than any other creature.inpachi said:
Sigh. Utopia is a form of perfection, and perfection only comes in moments and is otherwise mythical in addition to being an impediment to excellence.TheGreatCoolEnergy said:
