matthew_lane said:
Actually both fields are taught in university, as peer reviewed science. Calling it either pseudo science or bullshit because you disagree is like complaining baout newtonian physics because you are oppossed to the existance of apples.
I'm still suspicious of anyone who uses science to justify sexist veiws...they do it all the time
[quote/]Who said more self entitled? I said self entitled.[/quote]
so your saying that women are no more self entitled than men?..then why make the gender distinction
and another thing is I'm not sure I've really seen an example of this "self entitledment" women aparetnly have..unless you think Feminism is some form of women self entitlment (if so god help us all)
[quote/]
Of course you do. Seriously, take a look at any article written about women in geek culture. When was the last time you didn't see one where it didn't make women out to be victims & men out to be victimisers?[/quote]
exagerations again....
its not some straw-feminist attack on all men, saying "there are issues with women in the culture" is taking issue with those induviduals/trolls who do it....did you know you actually dont have to be female to have a problem with such things? the fact that women are on the recivening end and men on the giving is not blaming the entirity of oneside and absolving the the of blame
or should we just not talk about thease things because aparently its sayign men are monsters?
should I not talk about or have a problem with women who manipulate men because "it makes women out to be monsters?"
[quote/]Seriously, if you read any of these articles you'd think geeky men were all 7 foot tall goliaths who keep geek women chained to kitchen benches making sammiches, when not being used as sex toys.[/quote]
listening to people like you makes feminists out to be the same thing
[quote/]I'm sorry, but you can't make that statement an expect it to be taken seriously. For starters its a presuppositional statement, that presupposes in the question the answer, but beyond that it also 100% relies on an appeal to majority.[/quote]
so gain...gender has NOTHING to do with it?
Vault101 said:
An why shouldn't there be, since there are a lot of pretenders?
pretendars are part of the issue...but there are other factors too
Vault101 said:
no, there are nerds out there who do nothing but encourage that kind of crap, just as there are the ones who dont/hate it....
[quote/]No, there really isn't. no person wakes up in the morning and says "i know, i'll go online & support people who are trying to co-opt my hobby," it just doesn't happen.[/quote]
your right...human beings don;t act that way
seriously..you cant just say somthing is true because you think it is...your repetedly denying the existance of nerds who directly or indirectly encourage this kind of thing..you honestly think they all their your exact same veiws?
[quote/]/facepalm, by the same standard i put together a list of other things that by extension are geeky
- Money
- Shoes
- Lights
- Security Guards
- The Floor
- Etc etc [/quote]
this seems a subective/how you look at it issue
[quote/]An to be fair there is nothing controversial about Booth Babes. A booth babe is a company employee paid to look pretty & appeal to a male demographic. Thats not controvercial, its a paradigm older then conventions themselves. In fact its done at most conventions that large companies have booths at, including the male equiviliant at wedding/bridal expo's.[/quote]
is your head burried in the sand now? its controversial because some people feel that booth babes re-enforce the steryotype of "gawking nerds/horny man-children" and create the kind of environemnt that some feel isnt welcoming to females (not my veiws but ones shared by others on the otherside of the argument)
again, like before your rejecting the Idea that the argument as another side
[quote/]Except that i would get no such data, because that fails to take into account the "fundemental attribution error" cognitive bias that comes into play with any group, let alone one with a built in victim mentality.[/quote]
so you think theres a victm mentality at play? "built in" too?.....*sigh*
again..fucking typical "I see no problem, therefore there is no problem"
[quote/]Some women write these articles, then some women read these articles & then some women get geek checked out of an actual interest to see where ones interests lie... An then said woman says "oh i was attacked by a bad man" instead of "that guy was interested in where my interest lay."[/quote]
oh of coarse...the complaints by the fairer sex and their treatment has NEVER been valid has it? your making up some scenario and convinced it applys to every case
and being accused unfairly of being a poser is not harmless "checking out" of coarse acording to your logic that NEVER happens because it all works the way you think it does/should
[quote/]Sure & you chances are if he's calling you a pretender, its because you are. You have been geek checked & found lacking.[/quote]
refer to the last thing I said
[quote/]Nope. You aren't actually arguing against anything. You are scrambelling for a foot hold, having just been shown exactly where you are doing something you thought you weren't doing.[/quote]
I took issue with your comment first and foremost because of the "entitlment" thing..like I said alarm bells
[quote/]Please don't try to retroactive change what you "meant" to say:[/quote]
[/i]"Who said more self entitled? I said self entitled[/i] <- because you werent making any gender distiction whatsoever amiright?
[quote/]You made a statment that clearly painted your own previous statements as being self entitled,[/quote]
self entitles?
what the fuck have I said that has made me self entitled?
if I belive I am being treated unfairly in some content that not NOT make me self entitled
[quote/]in that they came from a stance of social privilege: Embrace the fact that you are socially privileged & understand that that privilege only extends to the location where common sense pushes back... This is that place.[/quote]
you know what this somes up?...people like you
your on the other end of things, as I said all of this "geek culutre" is catered to you, so when somone comes along and says theres a problem..you don't get it and you see attempt to draw attention to the problem as an attack
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I'm fucking done....good day
