I never played the vanilla games of 3 or NV without mods. But considering that they did take some awesome FO3 mods and put them in NV as stock gameplay would say that NV was better mechanics wise.
Poll: Fallout 3 vs Fallout: New Vegas: Which did you like more?
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I disliked the NV story, and I don't really enjoy the "monte carlo" motif to the game.
I also hated how they implemented reloading benches and work benches. The UI (playing on PC) is just bloody awful. I guess i could look for a mod.
On the other hand, I felt the characters were more memorable and the world was more interesting and felt more vibrant and alive.
I also hated how they implemented reloading benches and work benches. The UI (playing on PC) is just bloody awful. I guess i could look for a mod.
On the other hand, I felt the characters were more memorable and the world was more interesting and felt more vibrant and alive.
Gotta love them both.
Fallout 3 for the brilliant intro and compelling journey.
Fallout New Vegas for the faction system and also for how much grittier it seemed to me.
Regardless of which you may like over the the other. You've got to admit it's a brilliant series.
Fallout 3 for the brilliant intro and compelling journey.
Fallout New Vegas for the faction system and also for how much grittier it seemed to me.
Regardless of which you may like over the the other. You've got to admit it's a brilliant series.
Fallout 3 for me.
The story was more personal and you felt like you were truly a part of it, also the mods for fallout 3 are (so far) vastly superior to new vegas, and lets not get started on DLC.
And dont degrade me for saying "Omg but new vegas was more of a fallout like game" well you may be right but i think fallout 3 was a better GAME overall
The story was more personal and you felt like you were truly a part of it, also the mods for fallout 3 are (so far) vastly superior to new vegas, and lets not get started on DLC.
And dont degrade me for saying "Omg but new vegas was more of a fallout like game" well you may be right but i think fallout 3 was a better GAME overall
gameplay wise, i think NV improved a bit, i liked the companion wheel and some of the other stuff..
story and everything else wise i prefered FO3
story and everything else wise i prefered FO3
I have to admit, I preferred New Vegas to 3. Glitches aside (and I didn't run into a lot of them, believe it or not), I liked it a lot more due to the deeper and more intricate storyline and the fact that I got a proper shotgun (none of the drum fed nonsense!) to blast through the Mojave with.
Storyline will, more often than not, sell an RPG for me (because that's what it's suppose to be about, am I right?) and New Vegas did far more for me than 3 did, even to the point of allowing you to work a bit with the background of the Courier. The Lone Wanderer was good as well, but he/she always struck me as being a blank slate with no discernable personality beyond a former Vault Dweller with Darkman for his/her father.
So, good storyline and (even if it's not much) a personality for the character, I'll have to go with New Vegas.
Storyline will, more often than not, sell an RPG for me (because that's what it's suppose to be about, am I right?) and New Vegas did far more for me than 3 did, even to the point of allowing you to work a bit with the background of the Courier. The Lone Wanderer was good as well, but he/she always struck me as being a blank slate with no discernable personality beyond a former Vault Dweller with Darkman for his/her father.
So, good storyline and (even if it's not much) a personality for the character, I'll have to go with New Vegas.
I say both. I own both and depending on my mood at the time, I'll switch between both games.
However, Fallout 3, speaking for the game's engine, is far superior to New Vegas, which I can admit has some issues with loading, although I have yet to see any real bugs in my copies of the games.
As for New Vegas, the game feels much more realistic, sans the Hardcore Mode, which I did try and enjoyed immensely. The same goes for some of the mechanics, which can be better than Fallout 3.
However, Fallout 3, speaking for the game's engine, is far superior to New Vegas, which I can admit has some issues with loading, although I have yet to see any real bugs in my copies of the games.
As for New Vegas, the game feels much more realistic, sans the Hardcore Mode, which I did try and enjoyed immensely. The same goes for some of the mechanics, which can be better than Fallout 3.
I like some of the designs in New Vegas but it has more irritations to me than Fallout 3 did. I loved the fact that you had less invisible walls in 3 than New Vegas, there were alot of perks and options that New Vegas had that I would never pick so they seemed pretty useless. More unique enemies was a nice touch and while Fallout 3 was a rabbit warren in some points it was far larger than Fallout New Vegas with more places to explore and while some of the quests didn't have that much depth or the factions didn't exist I would play Fallout 3 before I would play New Vegas. New Vegas feels like a sandbox. You know it has 4 corners, 4 sides and the same amount of sand in there as there was the day before but Fallout 3 felt like someone took you to the beach.
Also I should explain that I felt the last few storyline mission parts to Fallout New Vegas seemed extraordinarily rushed.
Also I should explain that I felt the last few storyline mission parts to Fallout New Vegas seemed extraordinarily rushed.
I definitely prefer Fallout 3, and let me explain why.
First off, I fully acknowledge every improvement New Vegas has over Fallout 3. Let me just get that out of the way.
Fallout 3 just brings across the whole '50s Sci-Fi' element the best to me. Far better than New Vegas and yes, I'd say even more than the originals. The originals seem a bit too generic wasteland to me.
In New Vegas, I never really connected with any of the characters. Certainly not with my own (I think Extra Credits covered why this is) but I also found myself caring none for any of the NPCs, in fact I often found myself killing them out of sheer boredom! And why I did this I think is because of my next point.
Now, I agree with the lack of level scaling. It not being in New Vegas is a marked improvement to the 'Only Dogs at level 1, only Deathclaws at level 30' system of Fallout 3. But New Vegas takes it too far, by the fact that you are incredibly restricted in where you can go. Some restriction is fine, but with this I was genuinely afraid to go out and explore in this sandbox game for fear of Cazador / Radscorpion / Deathclaw bumrape. I had to follow the same linear track every time, the same ten hours going ALL THE WAY AROUND before I reached Vegas and the game started out proper.
And it suffered from the same problem as Morrowind, in that it didn't bother to show / tell what areas were instant no goes. You just had to find out yourself, usually by walking into it and immediately having a spiny mutated chameleons todger slammed up your arse.
Let me finish by saying this: Fallout 3 is sillier, has less gray versus gray morality, and has a lot more things that don't make sense compared to New Vegas. But I like that. If New Vegas is a semi-serious graphic novel, then Fallout 3 is a full-blown Silver Age comic book.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Edit: Oh yeah, and the fact that New Vegas had no wild, wandering robots, while Fallout 3 does, gives it an instant mark down.
First off, I fully acknowledge every improvement New Vegas has over Fallout 3. Let me just get that out of the way.
Fallout 3 just brings across the whole '50s Sci-Fi' element the best to me. Far better than New Vegas and yes, I'd say even more than the originals. The originals seem a bit too generic wasteland to me.
In New Vegas, I never really connected with any of the characters. Certainly not with my own (I think Extra Credits covered why this is) but I also found myself caring none for any of the NPCs, in fact I often found myself killing them out of sheer boredom! And why I did this I think is because of my next point.
Now, I agree with the lack of level scaling. It not being in New Vegas is a marked improvement to the 'Only Dogs at level 1, only Deathclaws at level 30' system of Fallout 3. But New Vegas takes it too far, by the fact that you are incredibly restricted in where you can go. Some restriction is fine, but with this I was genuinely afraid to go out and explore in this sandbox game for fear of Cazador / Radscorpion / Deathclaw bumrape. I had to follow the same linear track every time, the same ten hours going ALL THE WAY AROUND before I reached Vegas and the game started out proper.
And it suffered from the same problem as Morrowind, in that it didn't bother to show / tell what areas were instant no goes. You just had to find out yourself, usually by walking into it and immediately having a spiny mutated chameleons todger slammed up your arse.
Let me finish by saying this: Fallout 3 is sillier, has less gray versus gray morality, and has a lot more things that don't make sense compared to New Vegas. But I like that. If New Vegas is a semi-serious graphic novel, then Fallout 3 is a full-blown Silver Age comic book.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Edit: Oh yeah, and the fact that New Vegas had no wild, wandering robots, while Fallout 3 does, gives it an instant mark down.
Played both. Loved Vegas MUCH MORE. Ignoring everything else, the World felt more vibrant than....well an empty, dusty, open field with nothing but dirt, mud and dirt as far as the eye can see. Mojave had rolling hills, steep cliffs and the Gorgeous Red Rock Canyon of course. Granted I used mods to make it all a lot more atmospheric, but the variety in the designs aren't changed by any Mods ofcourse.
Then there's the better story (best open world story ever penned, imo), more fleshed out/useful companions, The faction mechanic and SO much more.
New Vegas for the Win, No doubt.
Then there's the better story (best open world story ever penned, imo), more fleshed out/useful companions, The faction mechanic and SO much more.
New Vegas for the Win, No doubt.
I don't like 3 that much. For me, Fallout 3 feels like it strayed too far away from it's ancestral roots.
highly agree with this. entirelyDustyDrB said:
weird thing is the people who loved each game are on polar opposites...we like each game for the same reasons "good story" "great characters" "great atmosphere" but we absolutely despise the others..
personally i find fallout 3's story and setup to be the most kindergarten basic piece of trash that has been setup in any rpg. granted that didn't make or break the game, but still..yet the people who love that game say the complete same about fallout new vegas
*bleh*
regardless, i loved new vegas, played it twice now and i am gonna play it a few more times this summer
Fallout 3, on many levels.
1. The sheer scope if F3 was more broad.
2. Fallout 3 was spoiled for choice on weapons, whereas New Vegas has too many weapons which are just slight variations of the same gun over and over again.
3. Fallout 3 gave you enough skill points / skill books to max out 3 skills or more, plus get 80+ in others. New Vegas (unless I just somehow did everything wrong) I could only get 2 and most of my other skills were 40-50.
In the end Fallout 3 had both a major storyline and a bunch of unconnected stories, and you could play most of the game just doing the side quests. In NV, too much was completely interconnected, like you couldn't get away and just do your own thing.
1. The sheer scope if F3 was more broad.
2. Fallout 3 was spoiled for choice on weapons, whereas New Vegas has too many weapons which are just slight variations of the same gun over and over again.
3. Fallout 3 gave you enough skill points / skill books to max out 3 skills or more, plus get 80+ in others. New Vegas (unless I just somehow did everything wrong) I could only get 2 and most of my other skills were 40-50.
In the end Fallout 3 had both a major storyline and a bunch of unconnected stories, and you could play most of the game just doing the side quests. In NV, too much was completely interconnected, like you couldn't get away and just do your own thing.
Copied from an older post I made on a similar thread:
New Vegas disappoints me.
Most map markers are hugely disappointing, consisting of shacks with nothing but an empty bottle, a campfire on a hill, an airport terminal with nothing but two cases of caps and some radscorpions, a few caves with not a single piece of loot or backstory in them... it feel so empty compared to the Capital Wasteland which had something new, unique and interesting over every hill.
There are sweet fuck all large, dungeon like areas to explore.
There are no huge, detailed interiors like Nuka Cola Plant, Capital Building, Red Racer Factory, Springvale Elementary, Roosevelt Academy, The museums of History and Tech, National Archives, LOB Industries, Hubris comics... this was my favorite part of fallout 3 and all we have in New Vegas are a few vaults, 4 Casinos, Repcomm and an empty sewer. Very disappointing.
The dialogue and writing are much better in NV and sure, there are more quests but most of them just involve 'travel to point A talk to 'x', watch long loading screen, travel back'. F3 had less quests but the ones it had were amazing and much longer... Reily's Rangers, Tranquility Lane, Oasis, Take It Back, The Superhuman Gambit, Wasteland Survival Guide, Stealing Independance, Trouble On The Homefont... all great. New Vegas had the Vault quests which were fantastic but none of the others were (to me) as memorable.
Doing the Camp McCarran and Freeside quests is horrible because of the excruciating load times. So much going in and out of areas and they don't even give us travel points inside the Strip and McCarran which is just bizarre. The load times are twice as long as they were in F3 too.
And then there's the atmosphere... Fallout 3 was haunting, beautiful and soulful. Standing on a ruined flyover watching the sun set over the burnt out forests and ruined Washington monument was just sublime. Nothing in Vegas gave me that same feeling or immersed me in its atmosphere like f3 did at any given moment. Just sand, sand, red rocks and more sand.
Now don't get me wrong... I still love New Vegas more than 99% of games and there are areas it improves over F3. Better combat, better dialogue, better sound, better characters and story. But to me it falls short of its big brother in many areas. I went back to the Capital Wasteland this week and was surprised how much better it looked, felt and played.
New Vegas disappoints me.
Most map markers are hugely disappointing, consisting of shacks with nothing but an empty bottle, a campfire on a hill, an airport terminal with nothing but two cases of caps and some radscorpions, a few caves with not a single piece of loot or backstory in them... it feel so empty compared to the Capital Wasteland which had something new, unique and interesting over every hill.
There are sweet fuck all large, dungeon like areas to explore.
There are no huge, detailed interiors like Nuka Cola Plant, Capital Building, Red Racer Factory, Springvale Elementary, Roosevelt Academy, The museums of History and Tech, National Archives, LOB Industries, Hubris comics... this was my favorite part of fallout 3 and all we have in New Vegas are a few vaults, 4 Casinos, Repcomm and an empty sewer. Very disappointing.
The dialogue and writing are much better in NV and sure, there are more quests but most of them just involve 'travel to point A talk to 'x', watch long loading screen, travel back'. F3 had less quests but the ones it had were amazing and much longer... Reily's Rangers, Tranquility Lane, Oasis, Take It Back, The Superhuman Gambit, Wasteland Survival Guide, Stealing Independance, Trouble On The Homefont... all great. New Vegas had the Vault quests which were fantastic but none of the others were (to me) as memorable.
Doing the Camp McCarran and Freeside quests is horrible because of the excruciating load times. So much going in and out of areas and they don't even give us travel points inside the Strip and McCarran which is just bizarre. The load times are twice as long as they were in F3 too.
And then there's the atmosphere... Fallout 3 was haunting, beautiful and soulful. Standing on a ruined flyover watching the sun set over the burnt out forests and ruined Washington monument was just sublime. Nothing in Vegas gave me that same feeling or immersed me in its atmosphere like f3 did at any given moment. Just sand, sand, red rocks and more sand.
Now don't get me wrong... I still love New Vegas more than 99% of games and there are areas it improves over F3. Better combat, better dialogue, better sound, better characters and story. But to me it falls short of its big brother in many areas. I went back to the Capital Wasteland this week and was surprised how much better it looked, felt and played.