Poll: Fallout 3 vs Fallout: New Vegas: Which did you like more?

[Raognerrrm]

Fallout New Vegas just felt bland to me. I didn't really care about my character or roleplay nearly as much, and so much of what I was told to do by the game was out of character (chasing down Benny was something I didn't want to do). Despite the main quest for Fallout 3 being more linear, I still felt like I had more choice because it was exactly what the character I had created would want to do.

Even though New Vegas had the grey morality with no obvious bad side, Fallout 3 still managed to challenge me more morally. (When I saw the sniper in the middle of the minefield, I killed him from afar and immediately felt bad about it. Nothing from New Vegas made me feel like that.)

And Fallout 3 was full of interesting environments with plenty of little secrets hidden away. I actually enjoyed walking through the wasteland. Fallout New Vegas was a desert dotted with locations and rocks you couldn't jump over.

Finally, I really liked the feeling that Fallout 3 gave me: that I was completely alone in a wasteland. Even with companions, I still felt like I was just one small person wandering a barren land.

I enjoyed both, but Fallout 3 was more my kind of game than New Vegas was.

 

[RA92]

Yet another one for New Vegas.

Sure, at the beginning it was a bit restrictive by laying out all the Deathclaws and Cazadores on the way to the strip, but FO3's narrative was fucking railroaded. You want to help out the Enclave against the BoS? Nu-uh. BoS is the faction Bethesda chose for you, and that's the path you're gonna take. Enclaves will shoot you on sight just in case you were getting ideas.

NV's faction system was miles better, and your choices had much more consequences. Along with that there were the better writing, better characters, better weapons, better mechanisms and even better DLCs. The only place Obsidian fell short was perhaps the environment designs, even though I loved the rolling hills.

 

[RA92]

Throw me in as another vote for New Vegas.
I love Fallout 3 (still do) but New Vegas did everything Fallout 3 did and made it better. The plot in Fallout 3 was too linear for my taste, no matter what you did whether it be saving innocents from mutants and donating your money to church or go on to NUKE A FUCKING VILLAGE and enslave the wasteland populace you'll still be hailed as the hero who saved the wasteland from the evil clutches of the Enclave. In New Vegas you could side with any of the main factions gunning for the Dam, including the villains of the plot. You could even turn all of them away and go for an independant option! It's this variety that really makes me turn toward New Vegas more and the MUCH improved faction system is a real plus to. If I walk into Caesars camp and commit genocide on any man caught wearing a skirt then I can sure as hell bet that the wandering bands of Legion soldiers will focus less attention on attacking random caravans and will avenge their superiors and attack me instead.

Couldn't have put it better myself. I'm glad to see NV actually gets so much love. Bit of a surprise, really.

 

[Primus1985]

Hard to choose one over the other as their both great.

Fallout 3 was in nearly perfect, one of Bethesda's best. New Vegas was not actually developed by Bethesda instead Bethesda handed over control to the guys that worked on the originals while they acted as producer. I said it before when I heard about it and ill say it a thousand times.

BETHESDA! DO NOT LET OTHER STUDIOS HANDLE YOUR IP! People where happy "Oh yeah great the original team, their story, blah, blah, blah" A. I can care less about who is doing the story ive never been dissapointed by Bethesda before and dont expect to now I care about the gameplay, which brings to B. Hello those guys had no experience handelling a AAA property with Bethesda's graphics and game mechanics. They made crappy top down games, never a fully 3d world with advanced A.I and a huge world. Let you in on a secret, I thought the early Fallout games where boring. Didnt like what I tried of the earlier ones and never bought or really played them. Bethesda made me care with 3, and one would hope they want people coming back to the series.

Before all the patches cames out(A few months later) New Vegas was buggy as shit, you couldnt hardly jump up or climb, and the AI for NPC's was game crashing at times. Not to mention its extremely long load times. Compare that to Skyrim where ive encountered NO bugs or glitches, the jumping/climbing mechanics are a dream, and not only is it about 5x faster to load what loading screens their are is actually enjoyable. I know they where working hard on Skyrim but they couldnt pop their head in when they where developing(I remember Todd Howard saying they tried to be hands off and not pressure the developer) check and make sure its right. Hell I doubt Fallout: New Vegas was even playtested before it was shipped.

If Bethesda had polished New Vegas before it shipped it'd be the better game hands down but with all the bugs and crawls New Vegas is equal to 3.

 

[ikimevol]

fallout 3 and new vegas are both really good games but fallout 3 seems to be better for the simple fact that its more indulging? i dont think thats the right word im trying to use but fallout 3 has more story to it it seems. i lost the point of new vegas after i found benny. but you never lose sight of the main objective in fallout 3. which is why in my opinion its a better game.

I agree completely. Was the whole point of finding Benny so that you could have your revenge? If so, that should mean mission over, but now you're gonna go take over New Vegas or go join the NCR or whatever? It feels like they wanted two different stories and did a poor job of merging them.

exactly. i think if they do release a fallout 4 they should keep some of the ideas from new vegas like iron-sights, and the expansiveness and mods but keep it more towards fallout 3 or now they can also pull in some ideas from skyrim.

 

[galaktar]

I enjoyed Fallout 3 largely because I am from the DC area, and am pretty familiar with all of the places. I'm pretty sure I have a rough idea of where my house would be in the Fairfax ruins, and the Metro stations really looked like metro stations.

That being said, even with all of that, Vegas was the better game, flaws and all.
There were more guns.
You could do more stuff with the guns.
When dialog options popped up at least one of the options was usually something I'd say.
The characters were more compelling (never did find out what happens when you go all the way through with the Van Graffs, because I like Rose of Sharon "Shh, we're hunting shitheads" Cassidy too much.)

The DLC was amazing. - Dead Made you feel like the sheer weight of apocalyptic reality was out to get you. I remember having my character stare at the sky for a minute the first time it rained in Honest Hearts. Old World Blues was hilarious, yet morbid. Lastly, Lonesome Road truely captured what I imagine it would feel like to stand on the edge between civilization and a dead planet.

Obsidian may suck at making unbroken games, but damn can they make a compelling story.

 

[mikecoulter]

I preferred New Vegas as I prefer nice big open wastelands. It just seemed more visually appealing to me.

 

[mad825]

Fallout 3.

In many way I felt that FONV did less than FO3 like the intro, starting within the vault and got an idea how life was like inside really got me hooked while introduced me into the Fallout franchise fairly well unlike NV where I just got dumped into this vast environment with little background information on "who I am", too much too fast. People say that FO3 storyline is lazy.

FO3 and NV both have redundant issues that glare brightly but at least this doesn't happen in FO3...

Spoiler

when you get the sliver chip. the main factions bendover and give you "pardons" no matter how much misery you caused them. To me, that's cheap which makes them seem desperate and is pretty much out of character for a few of the those faction, especially Legion.

I do understand that FO3 lacks the dynamic factions...And honestly I miss this in Morrowind as the other TES games don't feature this as well.

FONV does have some pretty rememberable locations and vaults. Nevertheless, FONV ruined it for me when they introduced invisible walls, radio host to me lacked character and an inexcusable control design for the PC. Who in the hell places the only unbindable key in the bloody quickslot!?...Which uses up a quickslot.

FONV is good, doing a re-run atm but FO3 will always remain on my PC for re-runs.

 

[Muspelheim]

I'd say that Fallout 3 is better to me, but only by a hair. New Vegas had better gameplay in most cases, and I adored the hardcore-mode, but it's something about it... I can't really put a finger on it, but somehow, the enviroment of Fallout 3 just felt so much better. The Mojave was a nice place to explore, but it somehow didn't have the same effect the Capital Wasteland did. Perhaps there wasn't simply as much stuff and interesting little set pieces, or perhaps it didn't feel the same as the Mojave had always been a desert.

I really don't know, the more I think of it, the more clear it becomes that New Vegas should be the better game on paper, yet it isn't. While I really adore how New Vegas felt more like a recovering society (the people of the Wasteland finally beginning to get a decent nation-state off the ground), I think the atmosphere in Fallout 3 simply felt more interesting, albeit improbable after 200 years.

But then again... Loads of things in Fallout 3 was absolutly ridiculous on paper, but they still remained rather charming, interesting little set-pieces. I'm thinking of Little Lamplight and the Canterbury Commons superhero-cosplayers here, amongst other things. Just classic little Post-Apocalyptic tropes thrown in and executed to the best of their abilities. Does it make sense? No, not really. Will you remember it? Aye.

And of course, there's the rather narcissistic wish-fulfillment of being the Waste's Legendary One from One-o-One, too. The martyr who died for your water, damnit!

If I were a sorcerer, I'd merge my Fallout 3 and New Vegas together, so I could have the iron-sights and gun-modifications, the better companions and the hardcore-mode in Fallout 3.

 

[The_Lost_King]

I like it when there is a clear cut villian, that way I feel all the better about myself when I beat them, or all the better when I do what they would have done.

That was one of the best things about New Vegas. The fact that there were no good guys or bad guys. No black and white moral choices, no...ahhh forget it.

To be quite honest, I felt that the Enclave was somewhat grey. I mean, the things they do are wrong, no doubt about that, but for all intents and purposes they are the United States Government, and they have the right to try and reclaim the country. They are the rightful, and in some cases, the best potential rules the wasteland has to offer. Sure they are evil, but they are evil for all the right reasons.

The N.C.R. is the next best thing, but they seriously fall short in the ability to defend the wastes.

The Brotherhood is just as xenophobic as the Enclave, but they are trying to preserve the fleeting sparks, not rekindle the fire.

Ceasers Legion is proably the worst thing there is, next to total anarchy, but with only their swords to go on, it would be only a matter of time before another reformed nation took them out.

The Calculator just wants to kill everything that isn't a robot.

The Master, while having a flawed methodology, would have made a great leader, but over things that could not reproduce, he wouldn't have been king for long.

I'm sorry but you couldn't be more wrong about Caesars Legion. They are the opposite of the ncr, who isn't all that great. Caesar's Legion is the only one that can provide Stability and order. Caesar is not some dumb ass warlord he is a strategic thinker. He is building his country. He has a very effective fighting force but he knows that isn't all one needs. In his words the ncr are his antithesis and he hopes to, once he has beaten them, to become sort of a union of their Ideals. He wants to be able to still be able to combat any threat but he then wants to turn his gaze back into his own borders and start building a better government like the republic of Rome. He has cities and they are some of the safest in the wasteland. One trader comments on how he only trades in Caesar's territory because it is safer and cheaper. Which also implies that yes there are cities and there are happy citizens at home who have cities and that he is not just an army.

On topic: I like Fallout: New Vegas better. It has a deeper story than fo3 for starters. You can align yourself with any faction. If you want you can be a powder ganger. In fo3 you weren't allowed to join any "evil" factions. Bethesda needs to take notes on obsidian. I like having many choices in the campaign. I obviously prefer Caesar's Legion though so I usual pick them. Plus I don't get how committing genocide on anyone with an once of radiation in their system is helping rebuild America. The mechanics are better too. The only part I liked better about fallout 3 is when you come out of the vault and you look at barren beauty that is the wastes.

 

[WoahDan]

NV easily, the only part of F3 that was better was the opening. NV introduced it own problems; buggy,factions are a good addition but dont work as well as they could,survival mode is a joke, and its tainted by the fact that the assholes at no more mutants and similar charming people like it. But it fixed a lot of F3's issues and was much better written overall, i just hope Beth can learn from it whilst not caving into fans and moving back west in F4.