There are actually 6.Happiness Assassin said:
NCR.
House.
Legion: Caesar.
Legion: Lanius.
Independent: Takeover.
Independent: Anarchy. (Destroy the dam making the region too much of a butt for the NCR to control, then beat back the Legion.)
Poll: Fallout 4 - Which FO:NV Ending do you want to be canon?
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NCR.
House.
Legion: Caesar.
Legion: Lanius.
Independent: Takeover.
Independent: Anarchy. (Destroy the dam making the region too much of a butt for the NCR to control, then beat back the Legion.)
Independent would be impossible to pull off without making it a "it didn't really matter" ending and fuck that shit. Legion would inevitably collapse and lead back to status quo, and I hated House solely for being a smug asshole regardless if he had a plan.
NCR would be my pick, but that would make them essentially the superpower of the western wasteland. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it could cause problems. Best case scenario would be set the game somewhere (hopefully the East/North-East coast) else and have the NCR be a non-entity that's referenced a lot but involved little.
NCR would be my pick, but that would make them essentially the superpower of the western wasteland. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it could cause problems. Best case scenario would be set the game somewhere (hopefully the East/North-East coast) else and have the NCR be a non-entity that's referenced a lot but involved little.
My "canon" playthru, (the first real run through where I was going with my "natural" reactions to the events) ended up with an independent Vegas... and I'd have to say it was my favorite ending. That said, I didn't say it was a "good" ending. Frankly I was disapointed with how the game interpreted my playthru, taking New Vegas for myself (like I was using Benny's plan) rather than setting it free for the good of the Mojave like (as a Follower) I was actually doing. The problem was, the Followers weren't a primary faction... and as far as I was concerned they were the only ones worthy of siding with.
So the "independent" ending... the one I liked the most... totally missed my motives for doing what I did and failed to connect with me. Oh well, I'm very used to "my canon" being very different from what the actual crap story ending is in a Bethesda game.
Meaning I don't care much which is canon when they go to FO4. Shit, it will be half a continent away in Boston anyway. In the world of Fallout that may as well be in Asia and very unlikely to have any affect on events in 4 anyway. FO 3's events will be more relevent to FO 4 than NV.
So the "independent" ending... the one I liked the most... totally missed my motives for doing what I did and failed to connect with me. Oh well, I'm very used to "my canon" being very different from what the actual crap story ending is in a Bethesda game.
Meaning I don't care much which is canon when they go to FO4. Shit, it will be half a continent away in Boston anyway. In the world of Fallout that may as well be in Asia and very unlikely to have any affect on events in 4 anyway. FO 3's events will be more relevent to FO 4 than NV.
Or the cut ending from Old World Blues, where you release the Think Tank to do Science! to the Mojave.TopazFusion said:
Anyway, I like the Independent ending, it sets a limit on the eastward expansion of the NCR and that establishes a less monolithic post-nuclear world, with more scope for different polities arising.
I killed a lot of 'queens' of a lot of things, and some legendary monsters besides, but you can bet we haven't seen the last of cazadores, radscorpions, fire ants, geckos, deathclaws, nighthunters, etc. for any other reason than that species not being copy-pasted into the next game to save time.TizzytheTormentor said:
Of course, by the same reasoning, we might never see tunnelers again. For all I know, they were really just so we'd have something to fight on that moving elevator/arena setpiece.
Well for Fallout 4 I want it to be set between Fallout 1 & 2 and for Bethesda to keep their grubby mitts off Fallout: New Vegas.
If there is a canon ending I imagine it'll be anything but Legion. Personally I want it to be NCR. I can't see NCR expanding past Vegas even if they do take it, I mean there were clear benefits to taking Vegas and the Dam, no real reason to push into Ex-Legion Territory. I hope if Obsidian does make another Fallout game the other designers can oppose Avellone's desire to destroy NCR which he's been pretty vocal about wanting to do in the past. Avellone's great and all, but I disagree with him on that.
If there is a canon ending I imagine it'll be anything but Legion. Personally I want it to be NCR. I can't see NCR expanding past Vegas even if they do take it, I mean there were clear benefits to taking Vegas and the Dam, no real reason to push into Ex-Legion Territory. I hope if Obsidian does make another Fallout game the other designers can oppose Avellone's desire to destroy NCR which he's been pretty vocal about wanting to do in the past. Avellone's great and all, but I disagree with him on that.
NCR is blatantly obvious the faction with the most content and purposefully shot into the spotlight.
I vote independent, because I supported the brotherhood of steel as the faction in control over NV and the Helios One megaweapon, and while we're at it I nuked both NCR and Caesars legion.
Fuck the NCR - they are merely aping the past, and not evolving past it.
Fuck the legion - they are aping the past, past in a thin attempt to recreate the future.
Only the brotherhood of steel matters. It does not corrode, or rust like the ideologies of old, and like a well forged weapon it will endure conflict and strife until the world recognizes their technological supremacy. Peace through power.
I vote independent, because I supported the brotherhood of steel as the faction in control over NV and the Helios One megaweapon, and while we're at it I nuked both NCR and Caesars legion.
Fuck the NCR - they are merely aping the past, and not evolving past it.
Fuck the legion - they are aping the past, past in a thin attempt to recreate the future.
Only the brotherhood of steel matters. It does not corrode, or rust like the ideologies of old, and like a well forged weapon it will endure conflict and strife until the world recognizes their technological supremacy. Peace through power.
Mr. House, because the Legion is a bunch of murdering savages, and the NCR is only in the Mojave to steal their resources and make their brahmin barons back home even richer. Mr. House seems to know what he's doing, and my courier certainly isn't foolish enough to think that he could do a better job, he just got here.
My ideal ending would combine all of them. NCR defend Hoover Dam once again, but with heavy losses on both sides. Another stalemate sets in, but then the death of Caesar causes the Legion to slowly fracture until his grand army are nothing more than groups of raiders. At the same time, the logistical nightmare of holding onto Vegas and unrest back home force the NCR to give up on total control of the Mojave, so while they still keep the dam and access to the Strip, the outlying communities retain their independence.
If not that, then probably NCR or House victory. Independence is too messy and anarchic for my liking, and Caesar's plans to bring a harsher civilisation to the wasteland won't survive once he's dead.
If not that, then probably NCR or House victory. Independence is too messy and anarchic for my liking, and Caesar's plans to bring a harsher civilisation to the wasteland won't survive once he's dead.
Hasn't there been some heavy clues that the new Fallout will be in New England? With them taking photographs there and whatnot?
If anyone wins, NCR wins. The Legion started off bad with the slavery and whatnot. But not even the fact their lands are the safest in the U.S. can change the fact the fact they're sexist, homophobic, and child soldier using bad guys. I still have no clue why I aided them the first time.
House... doesn't know what to do with power. He isn't even a contender for me. He managed to defend one city from burning, I don't know how he could do so for an entire wasteland.
Independent would be my second choice, just to see what New Vegas could become.
NCR is the best for several reasons. First, of all the factions, they're the first I would consider good. Though members of the NCR may be bad and some of them may be high ranking, the ideals are good. They seem to be accepting of almost everything and reward hard work. With Hoover Damn under their control, they could easily spread their nation further. If Fallout 4 wanted to continue the NCR/Legion story, I would want the NCR to win, form an alliance with The Brotherhood of Steel, and have the game be them trying to take the East Coast over.
If anyone wins, NCR wins. The Legion started off bad with the slavery and whatnot. But not even the fact their lands are the safest in the U.S. can change the fact the fact they're sexist, homophobic, and child soldier using bad guys. I still have no clue why I aided them the first time.
House... doesn't know what to do with power. He isn't even a contender for me. He managed to defend one city from burning, I don't know how he could do so for an entire wasteland.
Independent would be my second choice, just to see what New Vegas could become.
NCR is the best for several reasons. First, of all the factions, they're the first I would consider good. Though members of the NCR may be bad and some of them may be high ranking, the ideals are good. They seem to be accepting of almost everything and reward hard work. With Hoover Damn under their control, they could easily spread their nation further. If Fallout 4 wanted to continue the NCR/Legion story, I would want the NCR to win, form an alliance with The Brotherhood of Steel, and have the game be them trying to take the East Coast over.
I don't want Bethesda touching the West Coast unless they plan on taking the story seriously this time. And I know they're capable of it. Skyrim was actually pretty well done. Fallout 3 was... not!