sounds interesting, as i previously put, let me know when you're finished, i'd like to give it a readJackKrauserFtw said:
Poll: FanFiction, your opinion
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I love it. With fanfiction it is extremly easy to seperate crap from high quality. In less then 5 minutes you can make a good judgement wetter this is worth reading or not. For no other kind of fiction this is that easy. You're also closer to the writter.
By far the best short stories I've read are fanfics. And I have read a lot.
I don't understand why people are so negative about it. If you read a bad fanfic it is your own fault for not reccould hate fanfics. ognizing it. Though a great fanfic can take a few minutes to be recognized as what it is, a truly bad fanfic is recognized at first glance. And I truly mean at first glance. The majority of the fanfics I have read are either good or great. That's not because the majority of fanfics are good or great, but because I USE MY EYES when I read something. Even if 99.999% of all the fanfics are utter crap, then I still can't understand why someone could hate fanfics. Because it's still extremly easy to filter out that 0.0001% that is worth reading.
It's like siting in a watchtower over looking a field full of dogshit, with a few clumps of gold scattered across the field, and having the tools to get that gold without ever having to leave the smellprove watchtower. A quick overlook of the field will tell you were the gold is, and then you can easily get it. Sure you're surrounded by shit, but why would that bother you if you don't have to smell it and have the gold to focus on.
By far the best short stories I've read are fanfics. And I have read a lot.
I don't understand why people are so negative about it. If you read a bad fanfic it is your own fault for not reccould hate fanfics. ognizing it. Though a great fanfic can take a few minutes to be recognized as what it is, a truly bad fanfic is recognized at first glance. And I truly mean at first glance. The majority of the fanfics I have read are either good or great. That's not because the majority of fanfics are good or great, but because I USE MY EYES when I read something. Even if 99.999% of all the fanfics are utter crap, then I still can't understand why someone could hate fanfics. Because it's still extremly easy to filter out that 0.0001% that is worth reading.
It's like siting in a watchtower over looking a field full of dogshit, with a few clumps of gold scattered across the field, and having the tools to get that gold without ever having to leave the smellprove watchtower. A quick overlook of the field will tell you were the gold is, and then you can easily get it. Sure you're surrounded by shit, but why would that bother you if you don't have to smell it and have the gold to focus on.
Admittedly, I've tried my hand at fanfiction. The ones I've read, well... what the hell are they teaching kids in their English courses? How to pick their noses? Crap, most of it. Makes my stuff look bad. Of course, to be honest, that's sort of how I got my writing started was via fanfiction (AC2), and now I'm moving on to more original concepts (for the most part). I don't mean to toot my own horn (toot, toot), but out of the fifteen chapters I've written for the fanfiction I started, apparently they can't get enough. However, 90% of my reader base also likes Twilight, so I don't really consider my story decent (eff you, Stephanie Meyers).
I never visited DeviantART. But what's so bad about fanfiction.net. Yes at least 90% is extremly bad, but it's so easy to recognize a bad fanfic. So why does it matter if 90% is total crap if it takes so little effort to filter out the 10% the fanfics that are good. If you're a writer yourself then you must agree that it doesn't take more then 5 "sentences" to recognize a bad fanfic. Statistically you'll only need to read 45 bad "sentences" until you stumble on something good.Joey245 said:
Sadly, being a fanfiction writer myself, I've seen the 90% crap that people have been talking about throught this string. Having been one of the few authors people have actually considered good (Lord only knows why), I've tried to offer advice on what not to do in fanfiction, especially in regards to creating fancharacters.
To make matters worse, a lot of fanfiction writers tend to limit themselves to what they like within the fandom or make their preferences for what they think should happen well known. This, unfortunately, leads to divisions within the fandom itself...the most common example being "pairings wars", where people think only one person should be paired with a certain character and no one else. (E.G.: Jacob vs. Edward)
Currently, I'm working on a reboot of my fic series since I've been out of the writing game for a while. But...from what I'm seeing of fics so far out there, I'm beginning to wonder if I'll be able to stand out among all the crappy fics out there or be considered one of them just by virtue of BEING a fanfic.
To make matters worse, a lot of fanfiction writers tend to limit themselves to what they like within the fandom or make their preferences for what they think should happen well known. This, unfortunately, leads to divisions within the fandom itself...the most common example being "pairings wars", where people think only one person should be paired with a certain character and no one else. (E.G.: Jacob vs. Edward)
Currently, I'm working on a reboot of my fic series since I've been out of the writing game for a while. But...from what I'm seeing of fics so far out there, I'm beginning to wonder if I'll be able to stand out among all the crappy fics out there or be considered one of them just by virtue of BEING a fanfic.
You can't really evaluate a medium based on the people using it. You can't claim that music sucks just because you listened to a few bad bands and haven't picked up anything decent yet.
Commenting from a writer's perspective:
FanFics are a great way for some aspiring writers to flex and focus on particular aspects of their writing style without having to worry about creating a universe or environment on their own. They just take established characters and settings (maybe add some if they've got fire on the tongue), and practice working character interactions/reactions with their writing style. It's like going to a gym to focus on particular muscle groups. Good stuff, really.
Commenting from a writer's perspective:
FanFics are a great way for some aspiring writers to flex and focus on particular aspects of their writing style without having to worry about creating a universe or environment on their own. They just take established characters and settings (maybe add some if they've got fire on the tongue), and practice working character interactions/reactions with their writing style. It's like going to a gym to focus on particular muscle groups. Good stuff, really.
My first feelings towards the piece were very negative, and I was planning a very negative review. I still intended it to be constructive, so I read through it again to find examples of things you did wrong. That proved to be much more difficult then I first thought.doggie015 said:
Fact is, you didn't do anything really bad. It just takes up a bit to much effort to read. And I'm a great reader (When I'm in the mood I can absorb all the info of a relativly simple page of text in 15 seconds). I think this is mostly due to the first "sentences". These are too long, and lack proper interpunction. And interpunction is vital! Without interpunction a story is only understandable for it's writter.
In short you need to work on your interpunction, otherwise your story is inaccesible for your public.
Owh and don't be a wise guy, and complain about my language. I am not a native English speaker, am selfthaught, have no spellcheck and suffer from dyslexia.
It's less the fact that it's fanfiction and more just the label. So many people hate fanfiction that if I can't get it published my story, which is the best I've written so far, will fade into obscurity. The Halo universe is my favorite and it's kind of a dream of mine to have at least some sort of official effect on it is all.HG131 said:
And hell, I'll send you the prologue if you wish. If you want to read the whole thing you'll be waiting a damn long time. It's going to be novel-length.
Possibly the best fan-fiction, more enjoyable than a lot of professional work, is the novel series for Thief. It is even written in a fashion so that anyone unfamiliar with the game itself could enjoy it just as well. If you like the Thief universe, this is a thrill. It's called Correspondence of Thieves (rewrite) http://cosas.ttlg.com/cot.asp
Also, one that is pretty much equally wonderful, is the novel based on the story of Grim Fandango, which pretty much tells the whole thing in a novel-like manner, without weird puzzles and all that, and moreover it fills up every one of the gaps that were in the game. It really is as if the game was based on this work, instead of the other way around. http://www.grim-fandango.com/novel.php
Actually, the Grim Fandango novel is a must-read for pretty much everyone, because it is also of a very reasonable length, whereas the Correspondence of Thieves novels amount to several thousands of pages, I believe.
Both of these works are downloadable in PDF format, completely free of charge of course.
I just feel like I HAVE to recommend them.
Anyway, I generally avoid fan-fiction, unless it's about something I really love and which has no more professional additions story-wise. Also if it's a very big and interesting project.
Also, one that is pretty much equally wonderful, is the novel based on the story of Grim Fandango, which pretty much tells the whole thing in a novel-like manner, without weird puzzles and all that, and moreover it fills up every one of the gaps that were in the game. It really is as if the game was based on this work, instead of the other way around. http://www.grim-fandango.com/novel.php
Actually, the Grim Fandango novel is a must-read for pretty much everyone, because it is also of a very reasonable length, whereas the Correspondence of Thieves novels amount to several thousands of pages, I believe.
Both of these works are downloadable in PDF format, completely free of charge of course.
I just feel like I HAVE to recommend them.
Anyway, I generally avoid fan-fiction, unless it's about something I really love and which has no more professional additions story-wise. Also if it's a very big and interesting project.
I think fanfiction writing is a healthy and a good way to flex some personal creativity and get more enjoyment out of games. As for reading it- an acquired taste really and while I read some game FF I don't think I'd ever bother with something based off a movie or TV series (just not interested).
I do think that there is a potential for education use in teaching composition of fictional writing to inexperienced writers (students) to allow them to focus on solely on plotting ideas - since character and setting is already provided in a sense. I also think that offering FF as an assignment for a high school creative writing class would be more fun for students to do than writing about if they took an imaginary trip to Spain or what life in college will be like and the other crap prompts that pass for "interesting ideas" in all their boiler plate glory.
I do think that there is a potential for education use in teaching composition of fictional writing to inexperienced writers (students) to allow them to focus on solely on plotting ideas - since character and setting is already provided in a sense. I also think that offering FF as an assignment for a high school creative writing class would be more fun for students to do than writing about if they took an imaginary trip to Spain or what life in college will be like and the other crap prompts that pass for "interesting ideas" in all their boiler plate glory.
I've skimmed through over a hundred fanfics and only once have I ever come across a good one; it was for Avatar: The Last Airbender.
It's stupid, uncreative, and doesn't need to exist.
People should just think up their own material.
People should just think up their own material.
