If there was a response that said "I can see your point, but I liked it a lot," that's the one I would go for. I had a great time with it. Don't get me wrong, some bits of it were annoying, but for the most part, I liked it.
Poll: Far Cry 4 can F' off, probably.
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While it was one of the best sandbox shooter I've played in a while, I do have to say that Far-cry 3 had a little too much hand holding. Seriously, dat map is just as bad as AC.
As for the story, well I personally like Vaas alot, though I don't think they can pull off the same trick again though.
As for the story, well I personally like Vaas alot, though I don't think they can pull off the same trick again though.
I will just say I have reached what I like to call my franchise point with the series. It was a good run but like many game series for me(Mass Effect, Halo, God of War, Assassin's Creed and Gears of War) Far Cry have run its course for me. I can't find any enthusiasm for FC4 either good or bad thoughts just empty tbh. With time so limited staying with few series when so many other games I have not played (new and old) just waiting to be discovered just is not my style. While the series was mostly fun none of the games were very memorable or had any real impact on me. I would just move on to something else.
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Someone bought Infinite for me recently, I assume it was on sale on Steam. It's a game that I didn't spend the money on because, despite the beauty, the attention to detail and all the accomplishment that the BioShock franchise deserves recognition for, I feel that I've played enough Shock games not to miss out.
Don't really want to play it. The two hours that my friend forced me to play kind of affirmed what you're telling me now.
I didn't accuse Far Cry 3 of being an unfinished of piece poop. Rome 2 was used to demonstrate how badly a property can be abused, and how badly that hurts the end user and the company's reputation:
"My point here, and something I feel is not emphasized enough, is that gaming companies are after your money. "The customer is always right." is a sentiment that humanity left behind in the 90s. Now it's about how much money you can legally make off of "whales"."
My biggest "fear" for Far Cry 4 is that they release a very similar game which STILL suffers from problems that haven't been addressed since Far Cry 2 for the simple reason that they think customers are idiots and that it's cheaper to leave it untended. As Jim Sterling said, I think, it's shameful when modders have to fix your games for you, especially if it's only a day after release of your game.
Someone bought Infinite for me recently, I assume it was on sale on Steam. It's a game that I didn't spend the money on because, despite the beauty, the attention to detail and all the accomplishment that the BioShock franchise deserves recognition for, I feel that I've played enough Shock games not to miss out.
Don't really want to play it. The two hours that my friend forced me to play kind of affirmed what you're telling me now.
I didn't accuse Far Cry 3 of being an unfinished of piece poop. Rome 2 was used to demonstrate how badly a property can be abused, and how badly that hurts the end user and the company's reputation:
"My point here, and something I feel is not emphasized enough, is that gaming companies are after your money. "The customer is always right." is a sentiment that humanity left behind in the 90s. Now it's about how much money you can legally make off of "whales"."
My biggest "fear" for Far Cry 4 is that they release a very similar game which STILL suffers from problems that haven't been addressed since Far Cry 2 for the simple reason that they think customers are idiots and that it's cheaper to leave it untended. As Jim Sterling said, I think, it's shameful when modders have to fix your games for you, especially if it's only a day after release of your game.
The game doesn't end when it should. I know what they were trying to do, but Vaas was a vastly more interesting nemesis then the true big bad who was just a generic villain.
All the main characters were dull, even Vaas but his actor and motion capture really sells him. If Jasons older brother survived the first few moments of the game it could have gone somewhere interesting, but instead we were meant to feel for everyone when the guy who had a grand total of 2 minutes of screen time gets shot.
Heck, the game would have been vastly more interesting if you played as the straight military vet. He doesn't need much characterisation, since all there interesting stuff happens externally to Jasons arc, his combat skills would make more sense and the sense of responsibility towards his younger siblings and the rest of the group would have been greater (being the only trained survivalist in the group). We could have watched Jason Brodies descent into madness while skirting it ourselves rather then standing in his shoes and only having the vapid reactions of the one note love interest to tell us that we've "changed".
It also shouldn't have ended with a choice. The theme was insanity, the ending should have reflected that... no fucking redemption thank you. One solid thematically strong ending rather 2 poorly planned diluted endings.
But I'll leave the fan fiction to those who care more then I do.
That said, I loved the game. They did a lot right but lost their courage when it came to sticking to the themes.
All the main characters were dull, even Vaas but his actor and motion capture really sells him. If Jasons older brother survived the first few moments of the game it could have gone somewhere interesting, but instead we were meant to feel for everyone when the guy who had a grand total of 2 minutes of screen time gets shot.
Heck, the game would have been vastly more interesting if you played as the straight military vet. He doesn't need much characterisation, since all there interesting stuff happens externally to Jasons arc, his combat skills would make more sense and the sense of responsibility towards his younger siblings and the rest of the group would have been greater (being the only trained survivalist in the group). We could have watched Jason Brodies descent into madness while skirting it ourselves rather then standing in his shoes and only having the vapid reactions of the one note love interest to tell us that we've "changed".
It also shouldn't have ended with a choice. The theme was insanity, the ending should have reflected that... no fucking redemption thank you. One solid thematically strong ending rather 2 poorly planned diluted endings.
But I'll leave the fan fiction to those who care more then I do.
That said, I loved the game. They did a lot right but lost their courage when it came to sticking to the themes.
As far as I'm aware I've played all of the Far Cry games released to date... but y'know what? I'm not even really sure why. I can't say I've ever actually enjoyed any of them. I mean, there's aspects here and there that have appealed to me... I mean, hell... the original Far Cry was absurdly vibrant and downright gorgeous during a period where the majority of shooters were gloomy WWII games. But I still wouldn't actually call any of them "fun."
Far Cry 3 to me was just kind of a nothing experience. I actively hated all of the supposed protagonists (the only character I found even somewhat interesting was Vaas, and he's not even around for the whole game; and I'm certainly not supposed to be hoping for him to win). I found the gunplay to be pretty much average, and downright easy even on the highest difficulty once you start getting some decent weaponry (and complete sleepwalk mode once you get the unique KRISS Vector submachine gun). The story was a brand new level of uninteresting.
Yet I can't call it bad. I can't call any particular aspect of it 'bad' - just painfully mediocre, like all the other Far Cry games. Maybe that's actually why I keep buying them... because at least they're consistent, and maybe one day they'll actually manage to do something above-average.
One thing's for certain though - I'll never buy one of these games day 1. Hell, I wish I'd held out longer with Far Cry 3 to get a price better than the $25 I paid about a month after release.
Far Cry 3 to me was just kind of a nothing experience. I actively hated all of the supposed protagonists (the only character I found even somewhat interesting was Vaas, and he's not even around for the whole game; and I'm certainly not supposed to be hoping for him to win). I found the gunplay to be pretty much average, and downright easy even on the highest difficulty once you start getting some decent weaponry (and complete sleepwalk mode once you get the unique KRISS Vector submachine gun). The story was a brand new level of uninteresting.
Yet I can't call it bad. I can't call any particular aspect of it 'bad' - just painfully mediocre, like all the other Far Cry games. Maybe that's actually why I keep buying them... because at least they're consistent, and maybe one day they'll actually manage to do something above-average.
One thing's for certain though - I'll never buy one of these games day 1. Hell, I wish I'd held out longer with Far Cry 3 to get a price better than the $25 I paid about a month after release.
I really enjoyed the game play of Farcry 3 overall. The exploration, gun play, it was just a lot of fun for me. I do agree the main characters and story were mediocre to just plain bad. The endings especially were incredibly stupid and unsatisfying.
As for Farcry 4, looking at the art shown off today, it does look like the guy on the cover is just going to be another variation of Vaas. An insane, quirky leader of a bunch of mercenaries and drug dealers, but this time in the Himalayas! I might get it one day, but I don't have much interest in it now to be honest.
As for Farcry 4, looking at the art shown off today, it does look like the guy on the cover is just going to be another variation of Vaas. An insane, quirky leader of a bunch of mercenaries and drug dealers, but this time in the Himalayas! I might get it one day, but I don't have much interest in it now to be honest.
I enjoyed Far Cry 2, and I loved Far Cry 3 a whole lot more (especially the multiplayer. They made it much harder for people to rig the game so only the top level players were on one team and all the new players on the other), even with it's parody-like story and characters. If anything it's an interesting take on bro gamer culture. If there's one thing the Far Cry series has nailed each time, it's the setting and atmosphere.
So naturally I'm really looking forward to Far Cry 4's setting.
So naturally I'm really looking forward to Far Cry 4's setting.
Holy shit that was a long rant, sorry OP but I won't stand 15min here to read such a long post.
And no..I enjoyed Far Cry 3 immensely and I cannot wait to play Far Cry 4 because I like the new setting that it is in. Also it was a fantastic PC port so brownie points for Ubisoft for that.
I'm not a person that preorders so I will wait on that part, but I can't wait really to see some game play of it at E3 hopefully.
And no..I enjoyed Far Cry 3 immensely and I cannot wait to play Far Cry 4 because I like the new setting that it is in. Also it was a fantastic PC port so brownie points for Ubisoft for that.
I'm not a person that preorders so I will wait on that part, but I can't wait really to see some game play of it at E3 hopefully.
Didn't like Far Cry 3 due to the protagonist (antagonist is damn awesome written though). Loved Blood Dragon to bits, even though it's ending was lackluster (won't go into details to avoid spoilers).
I'm not jumping for No. 4 but if I can like the protagonist I may maybe be interested in it.
I'm not jumping for No. 4 but if I can like the protagonist I may maybe be interested in it.
Im looking forward to far cry 4. Loved far cry 3 and 2 was ok. Never really played 1 though. I should grab it on xbla or psn someday lol.
About your refund thing. Don't buy from Steam (because they don't give a shit about customers), buy from Amazon (who use some shady business practices but have the greatest refund policy in the world).
I loved the original Far Cry. I hated Far Cry 2, I think it was one of the worst shooters I have ever had the misfortune of playing and the only redeeming factor about the game was it's map creator. But I felt Far Cry 3 was a fantastic game, the environment was done extremely well, you had plenty of ways to move throughout said environment, a real stealth system (unlike the horrendous attempt that was 2), upgrade paths and unlocks that rewarded you for completing various tasks out in the world, actual animals in the wild that weren't zebras, a great story and a fantastic first person cover system and the abiity to play the game tactically.
Every complaint you had about the third game was ten times worse in the second. There was no real cover system, you couldn't scale shit, the map was populated by respawning camps of enemies that consisted of 8 guys in two shacks and worst of all... Malaria!, whoever thought it was a good idea to disrupt the player ability to play the damn game and make them pop a pill in order to see again was an idiot, whoever thought it was a good idea to give that same vision hampering effect to you after sprinting was also an idiot. The only fun I had in the second game at all was toying with the map creator and baseball sliding around, the story sucked, the campaign was boring, everywhere you went looked the exact same and you apparently existed in a universe where guns would literally rust and fall apart in your hands in a matter of seconds and your only goal in life was to find diamonds.
Every complaint you had about the third game was ten times worse in the second. There was no real cover system, you couldn't scale shit, the map was populated by respawning camps of enemies that consisted of 8 guys in two shacks and worst of all... Malaria!, whoever thought it was a good idea to disrupt the player ability to play the damn game and make them pop a pill in order to see again was an idiot, whoever thought it was a good idea to give that same vision hampering effect to you after sprinting was also an idiot. The only fun I had in the second game at all was toying with the map creator and baseball sliding around, the story sucked, the campaign was boring, everywhere you went looked the exact same and you apparently existed in a universe where guns would literally rust and fall apart in your hands in a matter of seconds and your only goal in life was to find diamonds.
Well I'm sorry you didn't like it OP but I thought Far Cry 3 was terrific, so I'm eagerly awaiting 4. The island was beautiful and fun to explore, the upgrades and skills were really well done (knife skills especially), hunting was fun and had tangible reward, the gunplay was terrific, and it had some great characters and stories.
I'm guessing Far Cry 4 will be the same (or very minorly altered) engine with snow, to get one last spin out before they have to do an actual next-gen title. The cover art is similar, but then, none of the Far Cry's have exactly broken the generic FPS boxcover mold. Series also tend to reuse their layouts, such as most of the Zelda games being the relative same combo of Crest-Shield, goldy/brown background, and red lettering.
Whether they better with the story (though at least the terrible writer is probably not returning) or the repetitive gameplay for some things is a toss-up. On the optimistic side, Blood Dragon's garrisons were pretty diverse, so they may have improved somewhat there.
I have no idea on the container thing, I got up on a couple, but typically found that it just resulted in everybody shooting at me exposed, with ground stealth and cover being much more useful.
Whether they better with the story (though at least the terrible writer is probably not returning) or the repetitive gameplay for some things is a toss-up. On the optimistic side, Blood Dragon's garrisons were pretty diverse, so they may have improved somewhat there.
I have no idea on the container thing, I got up on a couple, but typically found that it just resulted in everybody shooting at me exposed, with ground stealth and cover being much more useful.
Totally disagree about the main points on Far Cry 3, however... I got it for free with my graphics card, and I'm one of the wierdos who liked both of the previous games, so there's that. I thought the plot was pretty nuts, but Far Cry games have never been about strong plot. They're about fun shooters in varied, wide-open tropical environments, and FC3 certainly didn't lack that. That said, I won't be buying Far Cry 4 at launch, maybe ever. In fact, I haven't seen a big-budget game that excites me since Bioshock Infinite a year ago. They are rapidly homogenizing everything to the point where only independently or kickstarter-funded games are still fun, a position I would have dismissed as pretentious a couple years back.
Now, I have to agree with you on Steam: those guys can burn. After buying hundreds of games on steam over nearly a decade, I tried to get them to refund X Rebirth - a game that was well documented as being completely broken and unfinished, an order of magnitude worse than Rome II, to the point where the devs outright lied about the core mechanics of the game. Nope. I know other people got refunds - I even brought that up - but those pricks started just issuing form letters after about the fourth response. Now I only buy games on Steam if they're on insane sale - like 90% off - and I'm short on cash, and really really want them, and I can't buy them anywhere else... I used to think Valve were paragons of virtue in the game industry - no one but them changed that.
In short, the game industry has gradually pushed me away from a hobby and medium that at one point was the first thing I identified myself with. What money I still spend on games goes nowhere near big publishers, not because I'm taking a stand, but because their products are terrible.
Now, I have to agree with you on Steam: those guys can burn. After buying hundreds of games on steam over nearly a decade, I tried to get them to refund X Rebirth - a game that was well documented as being completely broken and unfinished, an order of magnitude worse than Rome II, to the point where the devs outright lied about the core mechanics of the game. Nope. I know other people got refunds - I even brought that up - but those pricks started just issuing form letters after about the fourth response. Now I only buy games on Steam if they're on insane sale - like 90% off - and I'm short on cash, and really really want them, and I can't buy them anywhere else... I used to think Valve were paragons of virtue in the game industry - no one but them changed that.
In short, the game industry has gradually pushed me away from a hobby and medium that at one point was the first thing I identified myself with. What money I still spend on games goes nowhere near big publishers, not because I'm taking a stand, but because their products are terrible.
I get why you didn't like the game, but my main problem is more plot based.
In truth, they should've expanded on a lot of things. It was far too easy to grind to high level even with arbitrary mission anchors.
The 'decision' at the end felt janky, and when I saw the 'bad' ending after completing the 'good' end I was REALLY glad that the decision was easy for good.
The open-endedness was very shallow admittedly upon story completion. The gunplay was not the greatest as bullets seemed to disappear after a certain distance which negated the effectiveness of the sniper rifles.
But I still had fun exploring the island and learning its secrets, despite the weak story-line itself. Still it did allow for the creation of Blood Dragon, so I will forgive Farcry 3 a lot of its problems.
But I am looking forward to it, but not as much as other games coming out this year.
In truth, they should've expanded on a lot of things. It was far too easy to grind to high level even with arbitrary mission anchors.
The 'decision' at the end felt janky, and when I saw the 'bad' ending after completing the 'good' end I was REALLY glad that the decision was easy for good.
The open-endedness was very shallow admittedly upon story completion. The gunplay was not the greatest as bullets seemed to disappear after a certain distance which negated the effectiveness of the sniper rifles.
But I still had fun exploring the island and learning its secrets, despite the weak story-line itself. Still it did allow for the creation of Blood Dragon, so I will forgive Farcry 3 a lot of its problems.
But I am looking forward to it, but not as much as other games coming out this year.