Poll: Favourite Ponie! (thats right its a my little pony thread!)

[trollnystan]

Hmm, to think I'm missing all that because I listen to music while on the bus.

I drive my own car. It's amazing what bullplop you can whip out of your nethers when called upon.

I do to, but it's $40 cheaper to park off campus and take a five minute bus ride to central campus. Yeah, I had to do a lot of bullshitting in my first GEC English class.

I heart you guys so much right now. Like an oasis of peace. Oh sorry, keep talking, don't mind me =)

 

[Bags159]

Hmm, to think I'm missing all that because I listen to music while on the bus.

I drive my own car. It's amazing what bullplop you can whip out of your nethers when called upon.

I do to, but it's $40 cheaper to park off campus and take a five minute bus ride to central campus. Yeah, I had to do a lot of bullshitting in my first GEC English class.

If all else fails, just shout loudly and randomly. Or do a Psycho Pie.

...or do a Psycho Pie LOUDLY! Yes!

I'll just fill a word document full of youtube links and call it a day! Honestly though I think I'll go along with what you did and rant about society and stuff like that. Thanks.

captcha: ssecuth Mobilitat

 

[Loop Stricken]

I'll just fill a word document full of youtube links and call it a day! Honestly though I think I'll go along with what you did and rant about society and stuff like that. Thanks.

captcha: ssecuth Mobilitat

Then my work here is done [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILPqnZ1ZN0E&feature=player_detailpage#t=316s]!

 

[Dango]

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Something went horribly wrong with the quoting there.

Sorry about that. I've fixed it up.

Thank you.

Am I the only one who is absolutely hating this fad?

Am I the only one who is absolutely tired of people marginalizing and dismissing the things I enjoy as a "fad" simply because it's something they don't like?

You betcha!

Come off it.

Plenty of people like Futurama. Probably more than this My Little Pony show.

How many threads do you see about Futurama? How many avatars? How many groups?

It's a fad. Its got far less to do with people 'liking' the show then it does with people trying to be quirky, jumping on a bandwagon and subverting expectations.

How many of those threads were started by people who either don't like the show or were curious and wanted to ask questions about it?

Nearly all of them, you say? My oh my. Well in that case...

How many threads were started by proponents of the show?

I count three, if memory serves me right. Three threads, versus the TWENTY or so threads started against it. So, hmm...

HMMMmmm...

It would appear the "fad", if there is one, is to DISLIKE the show, and to tell those that DO like it that their opinions are invalid because, somehow, they're sheep.

Good try, though, telling me I don't actually like the things I like. Like I have nothing better to do than to subvert YOUR fucking expectations.

Good... good... let the hate consume you.

Geeze, some people really don't have much in the way of reading comprehension.

Can you point out to me where I singled you out for criticism and made personal comments about you.

Have a look in those threads about ponies, and tell me what the majority of posts are. If you reply with anything other than "strange roll playing, people echoing "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH IT" and brainless image spams" then I disagree thoroughly.

Don't criticize people for posting ponies in threads about ponies. If someone made a "What's Futurama, is it good?" thread, the response would be several times worse than any pony thread that's been created.

Why would they be several times worse?
I'm not. I'm using the fact that so many threads about MLP exist and so many images from MLP are posted in unrelated threads; to make a point.

You want to know why people started those threads? Because everywhere you look on this site, even politics and religion, images and discussion of MLP is leaking out. It seems like every 4th poster has a MLP avatar. Naturally people want to discuss something that is being forced in their face.

And naturally if they are interested enough to make a thread about it, it's because they have interest in the show.

Not necessarily. They might have interest in why others like the show, there are a number of other reasons. Regardless, I don't see the point you're trying to make.

Still, good job completely missing the point of my analogy. The fad is to like the show.

People like the show, calling it a fad just makes you sound like you're trying to be a prick.

Thanks for the swearing. Calling it a fad is describing what it is. I already posted a definition. The connotations of the word have little to do with whether it is applicable.

They're not 'my' expectations, I'm well aware of how petty, childish and vacuous people on the internet are. These are societies expectations I'm talking about. Feel free to actually consider what I'm saying whenever you like.

Oh cool, just argue something that no one mentioned before to make yourself sound right. Fantastic.

People did mention it before. I'll quote him/her:
"Good try, though, telling me I don't actually like the things I like. Like I have nothing better to do than to subvert YOUR fucking expectations."
Feel free to apologise for that one.

Cheers for swearing at me. You're simply demonstrating my point.

Why can't you accept that people genuinely like the show?

I can. That doesn't explain why people are talking so much about it, and investing so much time into forcing it as a meme. I'm offering explanations as to why the internet is behaving the way it is.

Not that what you said had anything to do with what you quoted.

Editing this to make all the quoting work hasn't really been going well, so I'll just try doing this in a list form down here (I apologize for not being able to work out the quoting).

1. A Futurama thread would get a greater response because of it's acceptance within the majority of the Escapist community.

2. (Yes I read your post, yes I know I'm being a bit redundant) The point that I was trying to make is that having the show "shoved in your face" on the Escapist is not the only reason someone may start a pony thread, it could be out of an interest in the show. You, for example don't care for the show and haven't, as far as I know, made a thread about it.

3. Calling it fad implies that people only like it because other people do, which is completely false.

4. My problem was that saying "This is what society thinks" without explaining your statement and expecting me to think it's right.

5. No, I don't think you can offer an explanation as to why certain people are acting like this. It's difficult to explain to someone who isn't a "brony", but when you start watching a show that has such a well established and accepting community as the one centered around MLP, posting about feels natural in a very odd way.

(I'd just like to say that this is the arguing of someone who is sick, up at 2 in the morning, and very, very hungry. My arguments would probably be a bit more coherent if I were in my right mind, at which time I would love to argue again!)

 

[WolfEdge]

Shining maturity.

I assume you're talking about my use of the words "fuck" and "damn"?...What does coarse language have to do with maturity...?

Nope. A paragraph is structure designed to group ideas. So you see, breaking up my paragraph and separating this sentence has confused you. Your immaturity was in the bit below.

I like the way you suggest I'm trying to present myself as some sort of intellectual before trying to amaze me with high-school English buzz-words. OMG YOU CAN SPELL JUXTAPOSITION?!

OH right. I guess you're trying to paint me as the "ruffian" in this argument, correct? Alright, I guess I can fucking live with that. That way, you have something to fall back on when you want to insult me. I guess implying I only enjoyed MLP because it's what the cool kids were into WAS sort of wearing thin...

I never suggested that. You could like MLP, all I've been saying is its a fad and that there are people who are doing that. Stop victimising yourself. If I wanted to insult you I would, all I've been trying to do is discuss an issue and you keep shoehorning your self-importance into that.

The bit about reading comprehension is definitely there to single you out. It wasn't in the first post you responded to though, so you don't have a point.

Oh?

Am I the only one who is absolutely hating this fad?

Am I the only one who is absolutely tired of people marginalizing and dismissing the things I enjoy as a "fad" simply because it's something they don't like?

You betcha!

Come off it.

Plenty of people like Futurama. Probably more than this My Little Pony show.

How many threads do you see about Futurama? How many avatars? How many groups?

It's a fad. Its got far less to do with people 'liking' the show then it does with people trying to be quirky, jumping on a bandwagon and subverting expectations.

Now see, if that were truly the case, then why would you feel the need to respond in the manner you did? "Come off" what, exactly? Your entire post was designed to heavily imply that I was somehow lying to myself, hiding behind the word "people" (a common tactic on the internet) in order to make a backhanded statement about my own stance. You also try to draw a contrast between a show that's at least five years old between a show that has only just started its run(That makes it a fad. HERP DERP, it'll stop being popular soon, the same as futurama), and again through heavy implication imply that one was somehow a good show while the other was a fad and devoid of merit because of it. If this isn't what your intention was then, as any writer will tell you, the responsibility of clarity rests on COMMUNICATOR, not the reader. Don't blame me for being unable to comprehend your fucking thought process.

No it wasn't. You're desperately reaching here, putting words in my mouth.

My entire post was designed to discuss the idea of MLP being a fad. You decided that it was all a personal attack against you, demonstrating this through vitriol.

Cheers for this irrelevant explanation of the meme. What is this supposed to be responding to? I'm well aware of the reasoning as to why the images are supposed to be funny, that is besides the point.

I expected this response, whether you're actually telling the truth or not, I expected it. YOU brought up the threads. YOU brought up the reaction images. You did this in order to prove that liking My Little Pony was the "in" thing to do. I posited by means of definition the idea that the two things are not the result of novelty, but of incredulous acceptance. The idea that MY LITTLE FUCKING PONY is actually a good show is one that is funny to many people, INCLUDING those who watch it. The pictures aren't born out of "fad-like" behavior, they're born of a need to express to others why this idea is funny.

Yes, I brought up the threads and images. I brought them up to demonstrate that its a fad, as all memes are. "Incredulous acceptance" is not mutually exclusive from "novelty".

You're only making my point. "They're born of a need to express to others why the idea was funny" simply demonstrates what I'm saying, people are forcing the meme. People are shoving this MLP in everyones faces. You've said it yourself.

"A good show is one thats funny to many people", Vox Populi is hardly a demonstration of taste. Many people enjoy Funniest Home Videos, Deal Or No Deal and Big Brother. That doesn;t make them good.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how clever or well written the show is, its still a fad. I posted the definition of fad, which you're avoiding. This isn't a matter of opinion.

Whats this got to do with it being a fad? Are you just rambling on in hopes that some of this will cloud the fact that it fits the definition? Thats not a rhetoric question, I honestly don't get why you're presenting these obvious, yet long winded, explanations of things that aren't related.

FUCK, you enjoy your passive aggressiveness, don't you? Is that what makes you "mature"?

What makes me mature is the fact that I didn't automatically assume a person factually assessing something I enjoy, and using that to form an opinion on the general audience, is a personal attack. What makes me mature is the fact I don't walk around trying to be a victim. I'm not calling you immature, I'm suggesting you're behaving immaturely. I'd be a fool to assume to know you based off a few posts.

Anyway

I'm presenting obvious things because you can't seem to GRASP them. a "Fad" is born of a "Follow the Leader" mentality, in an effort to gain social acceptance, which doesn't fit here because, well, it's much easier to gain acceptance DESPISING a show for girls than it is to defend it. No, THIS is a meme. See above.

I presented a dictionary definition. If you can't 'grasp' that, and instead choose to childishly keep arguing it seems quite obvious that you have no intention of intellectual honesty.

Gain acceptance? Oh yessir. I've had nothing but pats on the back since I posted in this thread.

You can;t seem to comprehend that I'm not talking on an individual/personal level. I've not stated my own views on the show. Yet you assume I 'despise' the show. Whats a meme? Not liking stuff? Oh for gods sake...

'Gaming' isn't a fad.

Agreed.

The recent trend towards COD clones is

A trend. NOT a fad.

Television isn;t a fad

Agreed

MLP is

A trend. NOT a fad.

You're calling a show a trend?

You're honestly lying through your teeth. The trend towards COD clones is a trend and a fad. They're not mutually exclusive. Talk about not grasping simple concepts.

I am not a 'gamer'

Says the guy with nearly ten thousand posts since 2008 on a website dedicated to gaming. Aren't assumptions fun?

Where's the assumptions in your post? I sure play games a fair bit, I use this site, but neither of those things define who I am. I could function, and have, without either indefinitely. Still though, this isn't about me, I don't know why you keep trying to make it so.

If you're trying to say I'm no better than the MLP people who use said 'bullshit arguments' then you're wrong.

YOU said that, I didn't.

So I was right? Cheers.

That was my way of siding with you on that particular argument, in my own spiteful way.

So you admit that you're pathetically biased in this argument, and will not properly agree even when I am correct? That's all I needed to hear.

...Very well.

It's highly likely, then, that I misinterpreted your original post on the subject as an attack against myself. Because of my defensive nature when dealing with forums and the internet in general I lashed out against you unfairly, lumping you in with others that have responded before you.

If this is truly the case, then... I apologize.

 

[Sharalon]

I voted "P0n1es R teh GaY1!! (If you vote this Ill burn your bloody house down>)"

[hr]

Burn my house down you say?

I may not be a fan but...

You have to pick your fights man! You're going down!

 

[Mr.Squishy]

Twilight and Rarity, although I love everypony

 

[Valthek]

I have to ask: where the *BLEEP* did this sudden fascination with My Little Pony come from?

it's everywhere!!!

 

[Sharalon]

I have to ask: where the *BLEEP* did this sudden fascination with My Little Pony come from?

it's everywhere!!!

Like everything on the internet it was 4chan i guess.

 

[TilMorrow]

Fluttershy, "Did my cheering do all that?" and "[sub]Yay[/sub]"

 

[CarlMin]

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Well I can only take your word for it. I haven't seen it myself. At least not much of it. I just don't understand why so many people decide to jump on the pony-wagon. Perhaps it's some sort of urge to belong to a group or something. Because I can hardly imagine that this particular show is so freaking good and well-written that it attracts like 5 percent of the entire internetz.

That's the thing, it is good enough that it attracts 5% of the internet. I'm sure there are people who watch it "ironically" (hipster definition of the word) and those who checked it out because everyone else did and continue to do so to "fit in", but those types of people are only a very small amount of the overall fanbase. Like you said, it's My Little Pony, why would you want to be grouped in amongst people who watch it unless you actually enjoy it?

Think about yourself for a moment, were your interests chosen because you wanted to fit in somewhere or because that's what you were interested in? I'm sure that you didn't choose what you liked according to what others liked, you choose what you were genuinely interested in. It's the same thing here, people actually like the show. I can see how you'd be confused about the whole phenomena, you wouldn't be the first (85% of the other internet is wondering what's this pony stuff all about), but the thing is it is an enjoyable show to watch for some. Taste is relative but when enough people genuinely like something, it has to be doing something right, right?

Sure, like whatever you like. I'm not trying to judge you or anything. I don't think its weird loving a cartoon. Heck, I used to have a crush on an animated dog, personally. But it's the popularity that confuses me.

But if this was just some modest interest expressed by a very few I would understand it. But it's not. Instead, it's a comparably "aggressive" meme-like movement that spreads everywhere. You probably love the characters and the series. That's not what I'm denying.

I'm just saying that given the preposterous popularity of these ponies, I think there must be something else going on here. Perhaps it's just an internet sensation of some sort. Or a fad.

But Invader Zim has been insanely popular. It's done now so it has died down. And from what I've heard Spongebob sucks now.

Also...

Spoiler: From episode 26

But the ponies are too stylized! They aren't actually attractive!

 

[Loop Stricken]

But the ponies are too stylized! They aren't actually attractive!

... why are you wanting to sex up ponies, dude? That's not right.

Also ebcause you mentioned Invader Zim:

Spoiler: PONY ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMM!

Spoiler: Pony Gaz

Spoiler: Pony Tak!

No Pony Dib for you with his large head.

 

[CarlMin]

But the ponies are too stylized! They aren't actually attractive!

... why are you wanting to sex up ponies, dude? That's not right.

Also ebcause you mentioned Invader Zim:

Spoiler: PONY ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMM!

Spoiler: Pony Gaz

Spoiler: Pony Tak!

No Pony Dib for you with his large head.

Well, characters can be attractive without being sexy. These ponies however are neither.

 

[Loop Stricken]

Oh, you're the... the dog-fella, ain'cha? Ah, okay then.

 

[CarlMin]

I'm famous!

 

[Bags159]

I don't see why characters need to be attractive for a show to be good? (Although the ponies are as adorable as hell so I don't even

 

[Durgiun]

All of them. All the ponies. You can't have one without the rest. It's just impossible.

 

[Bags159]

In other news Fluttershy is now beating the "fuck the ponies" option. Go episode 26.