Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

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Diceman

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orangeban said:
Diceman said:
Tbh, while I would have to say that objectively, this is a crime, because of the obvious age thing, subjectively I'd have to point out that it is FAR more likely that the boy (and yes, it does matter that it was a boy) would've probably begged her for sex, as would have most of us on the simple premise that she is both hot, older and also those pesky hormones raging through our body.
So? The babysitter (as an adult) should have known better. Also, what kind of 14 year old begs babysitters for sex? I'm 14, and I think I have enough respect for people to not beg for sex.
The obvious answer is any 14 year old with a sex drive. I don't necessarily mean literally beg, but the opportunity to do something with ones very hot, older babysitter (but like everyone else said, a babysitter at 14?) is NOT something I would've passed up.
Yes, maybe she should've known better, but since this case is somewhat subjective, if the boy was not harmed or forced, where is the need to punish her for an otherwise generic law.

Also, I should point out, being from England, the AoC is 16, so it doesn't seem so bad compared to places that have an AoC of 18.
 

inFAMOUSCowZ

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I say no. Only for the fact if a guy was in this situation, he'd be burned at the stake. It bothers me we have his double standard. I might be over reacting but dammit we need to end the special treatment when it comes to the law.
 

Lilani

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Good God. What the fuck is wrong with you people? She was having a sexual relationship with a minor--a boy six years younger than her and not even all the way through puberty yet. The fact that she is a female and he is a male doesn't make it any different in the eyes of the law, and it shouldn't.
Actually, it should.. boys cant get pregnant.. boys are generally less "vunerable" than women.. (granted, it is actually men who are mostly the victims of sex crimes, but thats from other men..)
Oh I see, so because a boy doesn't have ovaries that makes it okay. Because he can't get pregnant, his innocence is less important. The manipulation is suddenly lessened by the fact that the PHYSICAL damage done is inherently less. So all of that psychological mumbo-jumbo, confusion, and trauma that can occur from sexual manipulation doesn't matter as much because he's a tough little boy. He probably had it all figured out anyway, right?

So tell me, what what about if this were a 20 year old male having sex with this 14 year old boy, hm? Would that be any worse? I mean if him losing his virginity with one part doesn't matter, why should the other part matter? Do we start basing sexual assault on which parts are involved? Six months for the penis, and six years for the anus? How does oral sex factor into that? Or what if it had been a female with a strap-on? My that would be a confusing situation, huh.
 

Torrasque

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Except not really.
If the genders were reversed, I would say the same.
The guy should go for girls his own age, and have to do community service.
I still think jail is too much.
Obviously the court case will probably view this with their double-standard glasses, saying she was depressed, needs meds, desperate, bullied, etc.
The fact remains that she got a kid drunk and had sex with him. I'd say the getting the kid drunk is more illegal, while the rape will be argued as being "concensual" or not. And yeah, the rape is still really illegal, but still not worth jail time in this situation.
 

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She should go to rehab/do community service/pay a fine. 15.3% (182)

This shouldn't be a crime at all. 14.9% (177)

Get that kid a medal! Hur, hur, hur....33.9% (403)

She should be executed! (really hope no one picks this one) 4.1% (49)

I really hope that the ~800 people who picked these options where doing so as a joke (though I doubt it) as this should be a very clear cut case. Adult has sex with minor. Adult gets some jail time, fairly restrictive probation terms and when they get out of jail their name is forever listed on the Sex Offender Registry. Do not pass go. Do not play the "well he got laid" card. Nothing.
 

kannibus

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Dude, when I was 14, if my babysitter was that hot, I'd nail the bejesus out of her.
 

Lilani

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Torrasque said:
Lilani said:
Except not really.
If the genders were reversed, I would say the same.
The guy should go for girls his own age, and have to do community service.
I still think jail is too much.
Obviously the court case will probably view this with their double-standard glasses, saying she was depressed, needs meds, desperate, bullied, etc.
The fact remains that she got a kid drunk and had sex with him. I'd say the getting the kid drunk is more illegal, while the rape will be argued as being "concensual" or not. And yeah, the rape is still really illegal, but still not worth jail time in this situation.
I'm a bit confused because we seem to be on the same side. Did you quote the post where I quoted a bunch of other people, or did you quote the one where I talked about judging it by body part? Because the second one was sarcasm in response to the person I was quoting. I'm completely on your side--the legal system should be blind to the genders of those involved. She manipulated a minor into having sex with her on multiple occasions. That should be it.
 

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Glass Joe the Champ said:
(Story found here [http://abcnews.go.com/US/connecticut-babysitter-accused-sexually-assaulting-14-year-boy/story?id=14238187] if you wanna read it)
I'm not sure how much jail time she's looking at, but there should certainly be some penalty.

It's not even so much about the age difference to me, though that is a factor. It's about the fact that she was responsible for this child at the time. She was being trusted to monitor and protect the child, and she was instead misusing and violating that trust. Not just with the sex, but also the alcohol.

And, of course, I'll also point out (like everyone else) that we wouldn't be having this discussion if the genders were reversed, or if she wasn't attractive.
 

MordinSolus

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Toughie. I feel like she broke laws, and should be sent to jail, but at 14, that kid is impulsive, and at 20 the girl probably is, too. Plus, someone I know looks like her, so it's hard for me to say "GO TO JAIL!"
 

FolkLikePanda

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To quote South Park "Niiiiccccee" to be fair he is a jammy bugger but the baby sitter should know better and they're both to blame.
 

lemby117

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speaking as a fourteen year old

I'd tap that.

In all seriousness I dont know what to think because I know kids in my year at school (I am acctualy 14 BTW) Who are having sex because they want to. and there are plenty of kids who would happily have sex with someone who is 20. So I don't know. also I dont know what the age of consent is in America is but in the UK I beleive that it is 16.
 

Jumplion

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As has been said a dozen times before (not reading 13 pages of this back-and-forth);


But seriously, we cannot let her skimp by this. To do so would be a clear double standard of the situation. Shit, you even say yourself that it's a double standard because you think she's attractive and the kid probably want it. Switch up the genders, 14-year old girl 19-year old boy, and people would want the man's head on a platter with his dick as a side. Hell, as some have said, replace the teenager with an older man, a priest, whatever and you've got the same story.

She had sex with a minor, justice is blind whether she was a female or just 5 years apart. (Really, any age difference to where there's a differing consent age is bad. Replace the girl with a man and you would not be saying that.)
 

TheDooD

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The whole rape thing is ify because She knew and babysat the kid for years she would have grown a bond with him already. Plus her age she would know how boys at that age felt. So since it was consensual I don't really see the problem. The kid took advantage of their friendship and she took advantage of his naivety both are wrong in their own ways. Even when both people are 18+ they still don't really understand sex and you can say they were taking advantage of each other. Age doesn't fix stupid in my opinion, only experience can start fix that.
 

Dags90

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Diceman said:
Yes, maybe she should've known better, but since this case is somewhat subjective, if the boy was not harmed or forced, where is the need to punish her for an otherwise generic law.

Also, I should point out, being from England, the AoC is 16, so it doesn't seem so bad compared to places that have an AoC of 18.
The age of consent in Connecticut is 16, with a close age rule of two years. It being a generic law is sort of the point, laws are meant to be broadly applied. She broke this one.

I'm also enjoying all the hypothetical confidence people in this thread have.
 

Torrasque

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Lilani said:
Torrasque said:
Lilani said:
Except not really.
If the genders were reversed, I would say the same.
The guy should go for girls his own age, and have to do community service.
I still think jail is too much.
Obviously the court case will probably view this with their double-standard glasses, saying she was depressed, needs meds, desperate, bullied, etc.
The fact remains that she got a kid drunk and had sex with him. I'd say the getting the kid drunk is more illegal, while the rape will be argued as being "concensual" or not. And yeah, the rape is still really illegal, but still not worth jail time in this situation.
I'm a bit confused because we seem to be on the same side. Did you quote the post where I quoted a bunch of other people, or did you quote the one where I talked about judging it by body part? Because the second one was sarcasm in response to the person I was quoting. I'm completely on your side--the legal system should be blind to the genders of those involved. She manipulated a minor into having sex with her on multiple occasions. That should be it.
Oh, sorry about the confusion. I am quoting the one where you quoted a bunch of people, including myself, saying that we were all fucked up for believing she should be treated mildly, even though it seemed we would say a guy in the same situation, should be sent to the headsman.
Dunno about the others, but I think in both cases, they should be treated the same; not a slap on the wrist, but not a mace either. They should have to go through therapy, community service, but not jail.
There are extrenuating circumstances in this case that make it different from a typical "drunk rape" case, and for that, it should be treated differently.

So yeah, we pretty much agree (I think).
 

MetalDooley

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Jail.End of story

An adult having sex with a minor is statutory rape whether the minor was consenting or not.If it was a 20 year old man sleeping with a 14 year old girl he would have no defence and would be sent to prison.There should be no leeway just because it was an adult woman sleeping with a underage boy