Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

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thehorror2

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I vote she gets exactly the same sentence as a 20 year old guy seducing a 14 year old girl. If the evidence points to sexual assault, that's what she should be punished for. (Major props to the kid for catching the eye of a hot college chick as opposed to a shmalzy, inebrated uncle, though.)
 

zehydra

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Psychotic-ishSOB said:
A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.

By the way, I would have fucked her, too. Damn, she's fine!
Didn't you hear? Nobody's innocent.
 

Harrowdown

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Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
 

chadachada123

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thehorror2 said:
I vote she gets exactly the same sentence as a 20 year old guy seducing a 14 year old girl. If the evidence points to sexual assault, that's what she should be punished for. (Major props to the kid for catching the eye of a hot college chick as opposed to a shmalzy, inebrated uncle, though.)
Who's to say that the 14-year old didn't make the first move, though? It's not exactly fair to punish her for going along with what both of them already want when there clearly is no coercing and all parties are (practically) consenting.

(My point in saying this is that the law should be broadened to allow for exceptions, like in a case like this where it's clearly consensual)
 

thirion1850

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No one's exempt from the law. I don't care how good she looks, the law's the law. And it was her choice to break it. Sexual assault against a male is still sexual assault - not to mention, this is a minor.
 

chadachada123

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Harrowdown said:
Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.

Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
 

Harrowdown

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chadachada123 said:
Harrowdown said:
Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.

Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.
 

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Jail time easily. However I don't think it should be for very long, 3-6 months max with 6 months of community service. I mean it is a crime but there is no reason to ruin someones life over it. This is of course if she didn't in fact get him drunk first but was in a relationship with him. If he was drunk and she raped him then 2 years plus 1 year community service minimum.

While 6 year age gap is reasonable I think though when your 20 you shouldn't be having sex with a 14 year old. if your 18-20 the minimum age I would see as reasonable to date/have sex with is 16, this is because you have already developed sexually and there is no reason why you should be having sex with a 14yr old who is just now coming into maturity and is trying to discover his/her sexuality. When your 14-17 I think a 2year range is reasonable as long as it is consenting and both parties have reached puberty. Some don't see the same way as I do on this matter but I think it is healthy activity to start to explore your sexuality at that age as long as your exploring it with someone close to your age.

Now I'm 25 years old and my normal age diversity that I look in is 5years Younger or 10years older them me. This is just a personal taste and It does have some wiggle room on both sides of the spectrum. Like I would be fine with having a relationship with someone who is a bit younger or older but it all depends on the person and how well mesh together, it's only a guild line for me not a law.
 

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chadachada123 said:
thehorror2 said:
I vote she gets exactly the same sentence as a 20 year old guy seducing a 14 year old girl. If the evidence points to sexual assault, that's what she should be punished for. (Major props to the kid for catching the eye of a hot college chick as opposed to a shmalzy, inebrated uncle, though.)
Who's to say that the 14-year old didn't make the first move, though? It's not exactly fair to punish her for going along with what both of them already want when there clearly is no coercing and all parties are (practically) consenting.

(My point in saying this is that the law should be broadened to allow for exceptions, like in a case like this where it's clearly consensual)
If he did make the first move then it was her job as a babysitter, elder, and more educated party to refuse. The fact that she didn't, ignoring the illegality of the situation, is just as damning.

Is it going to be the end of this kid's world? No, probably not. That doesn't make what she did right, attractiveness should be no excuse for breaking the law... Further, as several people in this thread have pointed out, an attractive older member of the opposite sex coming on to you at that age is almost certainly going to have an effect. Just because the kid consented doesn't make the problem go away, as the ability to make informed and rational consent against something like that isn't exactly all there.
 

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Seeing as she broke the law, jail obviously. I don't see how this is even up for debate. Execution is too extreme in this case (extreme in most cases as well), but community service/rehab is too light a punishment and is frankly an insult to equality under the law.
 

chadachada123

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Harrowdown said:
chadachada123 said:
Harrowdown said:
Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.

Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, because I personally do not have a problem with a 14 year old GIRL doing it with a 19 year old guy, either.

I think that a 14 year old girl can give consent, assuming she knows what sex is, biologically-speaking. In the same way, a 14 year old boy can give consent, assuming he knows what sex is.

On a somewhat-related note, why is it okay for two 14 year olds to do it (legally-speaking), but not a 14 year old and a 19 year old? Why is it okay when both of them are "young and naive," but not okay when only one of them is, yet still consents to the actions?
 

Harrowdown

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chadachada123 said:
Harrowdown said:
chadachada123 said:
Harrowdown said:
Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.

Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, because I personally do not have a problem with a 14 year old GIRL doing it with a 19 year old guy, either.

I think that a 14 year old girl can give consent, assuming she knows what sex is, biologically-speaking. In the same way, a 14 year old boy can give consent, assuming he knows what sex is.

On a somewhat-related note, why is it okay for two 14 year olds to do it (legally-speaking), but not a 14 year old and a 19 year old? Why is it okay when both of them are "young and naive," but not okay when only one of them is, yet still consents to the actions?
It's ok for two underage people to sleep together because neither is legally considered to be in a position to manipulate the other. When an older person has sex with a minor, it is more often than not the case that the minor is not mentally mature enough to be granted legal/sexual independence. Yes, some young people are 'mature for their age', or whatever, but there's really no way that you can claim that the vast majority of minors are in a position to live independent of parental/state supervision. After all, you wouldn't let a 14 year old buy a house and start paying rent now, would you? Thus, as the adult is considered 'independent', whereas the minor doesn't 'qualify', so to speak, the adults advances are tantamount to manipulation, as it would be if consenting to the minors advances and all. Think of it like a car dealer trying to sell your little brother a porsche. Every young boy wants a fancy sports car, but you wouldn't actually let them buy one.
 

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Zetion said:
All arguments aside, I wish I could have gotten hot 20 year olds to fuck me back in the day.

Ahhh, youth :3
I agree, ahahaha. I'm a terrible person.
 

Klarinette

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A 14-year old needs babysitting? The Berenstain Bears in: Too Much Shelter!

Anyway, she should go to jail. Nasty perv.