Yeah after looking at her picture, the only rational course of action would be to give the kid a medal 
Didn't you hear? Nobody's innocent.Psychotic-ishSOB said:A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.
By the way, I would have fucked her, too. Damn, she's fine!
Who's to say that the 14-year old didn't make the first move, though? It's not exactly fair to punish her for going along with what both of them already want when there clearly is no coercing and all parties are (practically) consenting.thehorror2 said:I vote she gets exactly the same sentence as a 20 year old guy seducing a 14 year old girl. If the evidence points to sexual assault, that's what she should be punished for. (Major props to the kid for catching the eye of a hot college chick as opposed to a shmalzy, inebrated uncle, though.)
If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.Harrowdown said:Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.chadachada123 said:If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.Harrowdown said:Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
If he did make the first move then it was her job as a babysitter, elder, and more educated party to refuse. The fact that she didn't, ignoring the illegality of the situation, is just as damning.chadachada123 said:Who's to say that the 14-year old didn't make the first move, though? It's not exactly fair to punish her for going along with what both of them already want when there clearly is no coercing and all parties are (practically) consenting.thehorror2 said:I vote she gets exactly the same sentence as a 20 year old guy seducing a 14 year old girl. If the evidence points to sexual assault, that's what she should be punished for. (Major props to the kid for catching the eye of a hot college chick as opposed to a shmalzy, inebrated uncle, though.)
(My point in saying this is that the law should be broadened to allow for exceptions, like in a case like this where it's clearly consensual)
Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, because I personally do not have a problem with a 14 year old GIRL doing it with a 19 year old guy, either.Harrowdown said:It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.chadachada123 said:If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.Harrowdown said:Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
It's ok for two underage people to sleep together because neither is legally considered to be in a position to manipulate the other. When an older person has sex with a minor, it is more often than not the case that the minor is not mentally mature enough to be granted legal/sexual independence. Yes, some young people are 'mature for their age', or whatever, but there's really no way that you can claim that the vast majority of minors are in a position to live independent of parental/state supervision. After all, you wouldn't let a 14 year old buy a house and start paying rent now, would you? Thus, as the adult is considered 'independent', whereas the minor doesn't 'qualify', so to speak, the adults advances are tantamount to manipulation, as it would be if consenting to the minors advances and all. Think of it like a car dealer trying to sell your little brother a porsche. Every young boy wants a fancy sports car, but you wouldn't actually let them buy one.chadachada123 said:Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, because I personally do not have a problem with a 14 year old GIRL doing it with a 19 year old guy, either.Harrowdown said:It's not an issue of whether the kid wanted it or not. He was underage, and the babysitter knowingly had sex with him regardless. That's statutory rape, and it's a crime for a reason. If say, an underage girl agreed to have sex with some 20 year old guy, would you consider that consensual? You'd probably accuse the guy of taking advantage of a minor, that she was in some way unable to give her full consent due to her youth and naivete. How is it any different when the genders are flipped? Young boys are just as irrational at that age. It's an indefensible double standard to claim that a woman can have sex with a 14 year old boy whereas the same relationship can't exist with the genders flipped.chadachada123 said:If I were 14, I would have done it in a heartbeat, and I don't think that a 19 year old girl should be punished for doing what nearly every 14 year old could only DREAM of.Harrowdown said:Wait, people actually voted 'no big deal' on the poll? What the hell is wrong with those people?! Giving alcohol to a minor and taking sexual advantage of said minor! How is the seriousness of this even up for debate?
Besides, it has been established that the alcohol may not have been involved until months after their relationship started, and by that point you could hardly use intoxication as an argument.
I think that a 14 year old girl can give consent, assuming she knows what sex is, biologically-speaking. In the same way, a 14 year old boy can give consent, assuming he knows what sex is.
On a somewhat-related note, why is it okay for two 14 year olds to do it (legally-speaking), but not a 14 year old and a 19 year old? Why is it okay when both of them are "young and naive," but not okay when only one of them is, yet still consents to the actions?
I agree, ahahaha. I'm a terrible person.Zetion said:All arguments aside, I wish I could have gotten hot 20 year olds to fuck me back in the day.
Ahhh, youth :3