There are kids at 14 that have jobs. Shit at that age I had a small gambling racket. There's people much older the 14 that don't have the correct state of mind. Morality Laws are really messed up because they really don't work because everybody is different. One kid maybe immature and naive. While the other is wise and well-informed. It goes for adults too just because one is of age doesn't mean they ready by default.Blitzwing said:TheDooD said:Kinda fucked up being nice means you go to jail. 2 people having sex that are 6 years apart that are in their sexual prime and it's wrong for them to do it. Yet sex when you're old and shit doesn't work as well is basically glamorized. Sometimes I hate as humans in modern day we're still overall very immature and scared when it comes to sex.Blitzwing said:I have pretty good idea of what it means. A sex offender is a person who has committed a sex crime, an adult having sex with someone underage is a crime ergo she is a sex offender.Psychotic-ishSOB said:A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.
This isn?t about fear. Someone that young simply cannot give informed consent.
What are you talking about? I have no reason to believe that anyone in this relationship was misinformed.JordanDH said:There's a difference between consent and informed consent.Iron Lightning said:Honestly, I'm of the same mind. I don't think that any truly consenting relationship between biological adults should be illegal.fenrizz said:Did the boy or his parents report her?
Did the boy want to report her at all?
That makes all the difference in the world to me.
Also, if you didn't read the edit, his mom reported her and the two had been having a sexual relationship for about a year.
A real double standard but one that is not without a smidgen of merit. You see it has been proven that many (but not all) girls who become sexually active at a young age may develop cognitive and emotional issues as they develop while at the same time many (but once again not all) boys can become sexually active as young as twelve and still develop normally (but once again I will stress that this is not guaranteed). But the effects, longevity, and overall outcome is almost impossible to predict with today's knowledge and methodologies. I think Canada has the age of consent law right, at least to a limited degree. A person age 12 to 13 may have sex with someone up to two years older than them. A person 14 to 15 may have sex with someone up to 5 years older than them. At age sixteen no more rules apply. While this is not perfect I feel that it does a good enough job in protecting youth by not out right barring them but rather limiting them to an age group small enough to prevent one from having a disproportionate advantage over the other physically and mentally.TheRealCJ said:Yes, well, guess what? The circumstamces don't fucking matter. If the genders had been reversed, the 14-year-old girl could scream that it was 100% consentual til she was blue in the face. uess who's still going to jailSaulkar said:I share this opinion of yours; but people ask what if it was a 20 year old guy with a 14 year old girl? I reply: what were the circumstances? I never make a premature judgement without some solid facts and answers.fenrizz said:There are three really important (to me at least) questions here.
1. Did she get him drunk, or did they drink together?
2. Did he or a family member press charges?
3. Did he want to have sex with her?
Without those questions properly answered I cannot form a proper opinion on the matter.
If it turns out that they had a few drinks together, had sex willingly and a parent pressed charges I do believe this woman to be innocent.
My thoughts exactly. Weird.Valagetti said:ummm, why is a 14 year old being babysitted?
Quoted for truth. And that's part of the reason that an adult having sex with a child is wrong; she is in a position of authority over him and he is not old enough to realistically protect himself. Two 14-year-olds having sex is a different situation because there isn't such a power differential between them; it's far less likely that one of them could easily exploit the other. C'mon, that kid isn't even old enough to drive yet, but people are trying to pretend he's a mature adult who is wholly responsible for his actions, and who would feel comfortable telling an adult babysitter (who his parents told him to obey, presumably!) not to have sex with him? That's putting a lot on the shoulders of someone whose voice just started to change.Blitzwing said:I don?t care how mature a 14 year old thinks they are. They are still more puerile, naive, inexperienced, and exploitable than adults.TheDooD said:There are kids at 14 that have jobs. Shit at that age I had a small gambling racket. There's people much older the 14 that don't have the correct state of mind. Morality Laws are really messed up because they really don't work because everybody is different. One kid maybe immature and naive. While the other is wise and well-informed. It goes for adults too just because one is of age doesn't mean they ready by default.Blitzwing said:TheDooD said:Kinda fucked up being nice means you go to jail. 2 people having sex that are 6 years apart that are in their sexual prime and it's wrong for them to do it. Yet sex when you're old and shit doesn't work as well is basically glamorized. Sometimes I hate as humans in modern day we're still overall very immature and scared when it comes to sex.Blitzwing said:I have pretty good idea of what it means. A sex offender is a person who has committed a sex crime, an adult having sex with someone underage is a crime ergo she is a sex offender.Psychotic-ishSOB said:A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.
This isn?t about fear. Someone that young simply cannot give informed consent.
That's Catholicismtheultimateend said:I'd actually like to think it is part of what has made me who I am, not trapped in a bubble fearing or worshipping sexuality.
if anyone ever took the chance to miss the point at every turn it is you sir i have heard the argument you just made TWICE in this thread already as replys to what i have said and my anwser remains the same, most men bow to social presure like this:JacobShaftoe said:You're really not going to last long around here sunshine... How's the answer of "I have a girlfriend and a child and don't think a quick shag with a random girl is even vaguely worth my time, and when you consider that I'm in an open relationship that's really saying something" grab you? Or would "Don't bother demanding simple answers to complex questions, it demeans us both" strike you for an answer? How about "I lived the kind of life you claim to aspire to, and found it empty, shallow and ultimately boring"?twiceworn said:did you jus ignore the question? i think you did you have yet to reply so again giry asks for sexs she is hot and wants you your reply is "i can mak mor than $8/h if i say no???? yes or no dude its that simple make a choiceJacobShaftoe said:It may shock you troll boy, but some men have this thing called "self control" that allows them to decide which urges to listen to at any given moment. This allows them to do things like: Keeping girlfriends; Respecting others; Not being jailed for rape/murder/arson/incest etc; Say things online that don't invite ridicule; Not make blanket statements based on the impeccable logic of teenaged boys; Make friends with educated people; Earn more than $8/h by the time they're 30, and many many other perks. The down side of this is every now and again someone calls you a fag or questions your manliness, but the kicker is: Once you've learned to control your junk and your heart, you don't care so much what those less socially evolved among us think...twiceworn said:so you are saying that a good looking girl going up to you and saying lets have sex (im asuming you are straight) would get a no? even if seeing gave you a hard on?? i think notOldRat said:You do realize that that sounds incredibly arrogant and douchy, right? As in "Because I and most of my buddies would have done it, EVERYONE would have done it and MY WORD IS ABSOLUTE!"twiceworn said:ok i admit im no expert on gay fourrteen year old males but as a straight male with friends and a big family the same i can say that straight males always want sex with good looking woman somtimes from age 13 and it woud be impossible for a girl that hot to rape straight fourteen year old male as HE WOULD LOVE IT!!!
No offense, but there are plenty of 14-year-old boys who wouldn't have wanted that. Straight, ordinary boys. You might think that it's abnormal or something, but there are plenty who really won't actually want sex at that age. Might not have been the case here, but claiming every straight human male of age 14 desires sex with a hot woman and wouldn't oppose such, stat, is incredibly stupid.
And on topic, that's pedophilia, which is a crime, which gets you jail in most places. Don't really see the problem here.
In other news, those that live on the lowest socioeconomic rungs of society (I'm assuming that's you with your spelling, punctuation and attitude towards ever earning more than $8 an hour) have a tendency to breed early, as do other mammals living in stressful conditions. This is primarily an evolutionary response to threats. I feel for you if you're there to be frank, as chances are your life will be short, brutish, oversimplified, and ultimatly boring to any other than your own peer group. But hey, at least you got the clap every time the opportunity arose...