Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

[MajWound]

It's against the law. She should go to jail. That's what I learned in Social Studies: you get caught breaking the law, you go to jail.

 

[Atlas13]

Everyone saying "if the roles were reversed..." stop it. There is a double standard in our society, and there is still lots of sexism. Like it or not, it's true. You can say that they should treat her like a male sex offender, but at the end of the day, it's not going down like that. Be realistic, there are tons of differences between how males and females are treated in our society. It's not as bad as it was 50 or 100 years ago, but the fact is that these differences exist, so you must take them into consideration.

In this case, here is the view: males all want sex 24/7, provided the girl is hot, STD free, and not going to get pregnant. Females rarely want sex, except with someone they are in a serious relationship with, excepting sluts who drunkenly hook up with people at clubs/bars. Yes it's not true, but that is the view that 90% of the people are gonna accept regarding this case.

But that's the problem. Instead of addressing the issue at hand, you're just accepting it completely. That's what the entire argument is about, there SHOULD NOT be that double standard. We shouldn't just say something that's broken is good enough to use.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

It's still statutory rape, even if she didn't get him drunk. Even in most states where there's some wiggle room for age, none of them allow for a five year gap. I think the most is three, but it's most often two, if there's a gap at all.

She might get some other charges if they think that they can pin her with them, but the main one is statutory. Hell, if I was 14 and was being babysat by that, I'd try to tap it too. XD

 

[Z3RO180]

man that kid should get a meadel cause that girl is smokin...on a sesius note i see where the crime is in term of the law he got him drunk and had sex with an under age person.But come on give the kid some kind of reward.

 

[josephmatthew10]

Has anyone bothered to read the OP's edit? It was a consenting relationship for months.

 

[AngloDoom]

Has anyone bothered to read the OP's edit? It was a consenting relationship for months.

The problem is, from a legal perspective, the boy couldn't have given consent since he wasn't old enough to. It's like asking a boy his age to consent for risky surgery. She broke the law so she should be fined or put in jail.

 

[Tom Kulzer]

Is she now a registered sex offender? Yeah no way around it.
Should she go to jail? Yes, psycholgicly speaking i doubt the 14 year old really understood what was happening or what would happen in the long run. Consent laws are just designed to be guidlines to protect children, 14 year olds are stupider than puppies im sorry but it's the truth male or female, just try to talk to one for more than an hour on opinons of things you will want to punch them in the face I promise. I'd like to see the grey here, I really would i'm sure she has her reasons mentaly scaring or not. She should go to jail, she won't though She'll get rehab and probation not being allowed schools or small children maybe house arrests with leave for work or rehabilitation and the likes.

Edit: not to mention the possible emotional side effects of knowing his first relationship ruined his girlfriends life forever... I mean sure with the really bad ones we hope but come on.

 

[josephmatthew10]

Has anyone bothered to read the OP's edit? It was a consenting relationship for months.

The problem is, from a legal perspective, the boy couldn't have given consent since he wasn't old enough to. It's like asking a boy his age to consent for risky surgery. She broke the law so she should be fined or put in jail.

It's sad that they'd decide the kid's opinion for him. Given the details, he obviously wanted it, and 14 year-olds are at least intelligent enough (some) to form their own opinions.

Is she now a registered sex offender? Yeah no way around it.
Should she go to jail? Yes, psycholgicly speaking i doubt the 14 year old really understood what was happening or what would happen in the long run. Consent laws are just designed to be guidlines to protect children, 14 year olds are stupider than puppies im sorry but it's the truth male or female, just try to talk to one for more than an hour on opinons of things you will want to punch them in the face I promise. I'd like to see the grey here, I really would i'm sure she has her reasons mentaly scaring or not. She should go to jail, she won't though She'll get rehab and probation not being allowed schools or small children maybe house arrests with leave for work or rehabilitation and the likes.

Edit: not to mention the possible emotional side effects of knowing his first relationship ruined his girlfriends life forever... I mean sure with the really bad ones we hope but come on.

You doubt the 14 year old human being understood that he was having sex with a 20 year old woman he'd been attracted to and in a relationship with for months? Wow, I understand that many 14 year olds can be stupid (being in contact with them much of the time) but at least give some consideration for the kid's intelligence. He obviously didn't want "protection."

 

[4173]

Has anyone bothered to read the OP's edit? It was a consenting relationship for months.

The problem is, from a legal perspective, the boy couldn't have given consent since he wasn't old enough to. It's like asking a boy his age to consent for risky surgery. She broke the law so she should be fined or put in jail.

I was pretty good at giving consent at 14.

Those laws really irk me, because they presume there is some magical age when people stop being mentally retarded and can make decisions for themselves. These things really should be tried on a case by case basis.

The laws also work as protection for the older party. Case by case basis could end up being judge roulette, especially if the relationship is ongoing.

 

[Burntpopcarn]

she actually looks really attractive, but if this really is bad than i guess that it's bad, but either way that girl looks really attractive...

 

[Godhead]

It's illegal, she should face what the written consequence is.

 

[Slayer_2]

Everyone saying "if the roles were reversed..." stop it. There is a double standard in our society, and there is still lots of sexism. Like it or not, it's true. You can say that they should treat her like a male sex offender, but at the end of the day, it's not going down like that. Be realistic, there are tons of differences between how males and females are treated in our society. It's not as bad as it was 50 or 100 years ago, but the fact is that these differences exist, so you must take them into consideration.

In this case, here is the view: males all want sex 24/7, provided the girl is hot, STD free, and not going to get pregnant. Females rarely want sex, except with someone they are in a serious relationship with, excepting sluts who drunkenly hook up with people at clubs/bars. Yes it's not true, but that is the view that 90% of the people are gonna accept regarding this case.

But that's the problem. Instead of addressing the issue at hand, you're just accepting it completely. That's what the entire argument is about, there SHOULD NOT be that double standard. We shouldn't just say something that's broken is good enough to use.

Okay, we'll just change society's view on a massive subject in a short period of time, over a trivial case. Yes I sound like a douche, but it's called being realistic. There are lots of things that shouldn't be: theft, murder, hatred, racism, sexism, rape, etc. However, there are these things, and likely, there always will be. Call me an ass, pessimistic, whatever. At the end of the day, the world will still continue to prove me right.

 

[AngloDoom]

Has anyone bothered to read the OP's edit? It was a consenting relationship for months.

The problem is, from a legal perspective, the boy couldn't have given consent since he wasn't old enough to. It's like asking a boy his age to consent for risky surgery. She broke the law so she should be fined or put in jail.

I was pretty good at giving consent at 14.

Those laws really irk me, because they presume there is some magical age when people stop being mentally retarded and can make decisions for themselves. These things really should be tried on a case by case basis.

I'm honestly rather confused by the subject. I think a case-by-case idea is certainly a good one, yet how would you establish qualities that allow an individual to have sex? Some people in their twenties haven't learnt to put a condom on, but then some twelve year-olds know enough and are sensible enough to act maturely in a sexual environment.

However, at the same time, if both the girl and boy were mature about their sexual relationship I'd doubt anyone would have heard of it.

If there's no age put to sexual consent, no matter how arbitrary, it becomes a massive headache to sort each case. I agree that in an ideal world this would be sorted case-by-case, but I genuinely can't imagine how that would be done.

 

[smurf_you]

At 14 if I had had a hot older person wanting to have sex with me, I would have done it SO fast (I was a horny girl at 14... what can I say?) So personally I think this kid is a fucking hero and I need to find him and high five him immediately.

Honestly, I think that if anything absolutely NEEDS to happen to her, maybe community service.... but that's it

 

[Tom Kulzer]

Weird. I remember understanding what was going on when I was 14.

Again, at what age do people stop being mentally retarded vegetables for you people? At what age do people arbitrarily become capable of understanding consent?

It's not that he didn't understand what he was doing or what was happening. A 14 year olds brain doesn't develop properly until around age 16 when they can start making insightful descions on there own, Does that mean they are capable of making descions at 14? yes, but can there brain proprely compose the thought proccess through experience and brain patterns? no.
A 14 year old knows what they are doing but it's the same reason crimes are either tried as a child or an adult why there is juvie and why there is prison, A persons brain develops diffrently throught ALL cycles of its life.

It's not a question of consent. Consent doesn't apply in sexual relationships under the age of 16 in most places of the united states. and canada 15 in china i belive. A parent or guardian the legal equivlent to there conscience can say yes go ahead and sleep with them but the childs not imancipated so Consent isn't a factor. A child is dependent upon it's parent in the united states unless it is over emancipated, 25, married , joins the military, or has a child. ( at least in nevada , cali ,arizona) at 18 it becomes an adult and can begin to make life choices but is still considered by the United states as a dependent to its family. until it completes one of those criteria by law.

Edit: Laws are stupid, they are designed to be stupid. You don't make a law saying texting while driving is aginst the law because you think everyones going to crash, Truck drivers did it for years and were profesionals at it, you do it so that the minority of people who can't do it properly don't hurt others.

 

[AngloDoom]

Everyone saying "if the roles were reversed..." stop it. There is a double standard in our society, and there is still lots of sexism. Like it or not, it's true. You can say that they should treat her like a male sex offender, but at the end of the day, it's not going down like that. Be realistic, there are tons of differences between how males and females are treated in our society. It's not as bad as it was 50 or 100 years ago, but the fact is that these differences exist, so you must take them into consideration.

In this case, here is the view: males all want sex 24/7, provided the girl is hot, STD free, and not going to get pregnant. Females rarely want sex, except with someone they are in a serious relationship with, excepting sluts who drunkenly hook up with people at clubs/bars. Yes it's not true, but that is the view that 90% of the people are gonna accept regarding this case.

But that's the problem. Instead of addressing the issue at hand, you're just accepting it completely. That's what the entire argument is about, there SHOULD NOT be that double standard. We shouldn't just say something that's broken is good enough to use.

Okay, we'll just change society's view on a massive subject in a short period of time, over a trivial case. Yes I sound like a douche, but it's called being realistic. There are lots of things that shouldn't be: theft, murder, hatred, racism, sexism, rape, etc. However, there are these things, and likely, there always will be. Call me an ass, pessimistic, whatever. At the end of the day, the world will still continue to prove me right.

Not trying at all is allowing society to stay the same.

Any drop in crime or discriminating views is a good amount: and these things have happened before. If everyone took your opinion, the world would be stuck in the same rut it was when society was conceived. You're not being a douche, and ass, or even a pessimist, you're totally ignoring the past.