Poll: Female enemies in Games (and enemy feedback)

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Sexy Street

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LarenzoAOG said:
Sexy Street said:
LarenzoAOG said:
I am incapable of really worrying about killing pixels and 1s and 0s from a moral standpoint.
Well, based on this you shouldn't ever get emotional from reading a sad book or movie, and never feel anything towards the struggles of the imaginary characters of such other media (not trying to be mean :/)
OT: I always turn off my sense of humanity while playing a game, but if the character talks, screams, or does anything that would make them seem more human as a character then I become a tad bit squeamish. And, talking about the female mercenaries, I don't think it really matters if they are female and male, just don't have them scream.
Ok, I might have been a little to hard on fictional people, I do get caught up in good books and movies and games, but thats when the charecters are presented like real people, I don't feel sorry for the nameless mercany I just shot because she was just Merc #7 to me, when I goy Tali killed on the last mission I immediatley loaded so I could prevent that from happening because I could see her as an actual person instead of a stock charecter.
Yeah, that makes sense. Just like how you don't care about the nameless character in the movie that gets blown up, and he didn't even have a line of dialogue.
 

LarenzoAOG

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Sexy Street said:
LarenzoAOG said:
Sexy Street said:
LarenzoAOG said:
I am incapable of really worrying about killing pixels and 1s and 0s from a moral standpoint.
Well, based on this you shouldn't ever get emotional from reading a sad book or movie, and never feel anything towards the struggles of the imaginary characters of such other media (not trying to be mean :/)
OT: I always turn off my sense of humanity while playing a game, but if the character talks, screams, or does anything that would make them seem more human as a character then I become a tad bit squeamish. And, talking about the female mercenaries, I don't think it really matters if they are female and male, just don't have them scream.
Ok, I might have been a little to hard on fictional people, I do get caught up in good books and movies and games, but thats when the charecters are presented like real people, I don't feel sorry for the nameless mercany I just shot because she was just Merc #7 to me, when I goy Tali killed on the last mission I immediatley loaded so I could prevent that from happening because I could see her as an actual person instead of a stock charecter.
Yeah, that makes sense. Just like how you don't care about the nameless character in the movie that gets blown up, and he didn't even have a line of dialogue.
Exactly
 

Oktanas

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I hate when they make the female enemy much sexier, cooler then the one you get as a friend.
 

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LarenzoAOG said:
Sexy Street said:
LarenzoAOG said:
I am incapable of really worrying about killing pixels and 1s and 0s from a moral standpoint.
Well, based on this you shouldn't ever get emotional from reading a sad book or movie, and never feel anything towards the struggles of the imaginary characters of such other media (not trying to be mean :/)
OT: I always turn off my sense of humanity while playing a game, but if the character talks, screams, or does anything that would make them seem more human as a character then I become a tad bit squeamish. And, talking about the female mercenaries, I don't think it really matters if they are female and male, just don't have them scream.
Ok, I might have been a little to hard on fictional people, I do get caught up in good books and movies and games, but thats when the charecters are presented like real people, I don't feel sorry for the nameless mercany I just shot because she was just Merc #7 to me, when I goy Tali killed on the last mission I immediatley loaded so I could prevent that from happening because I could see her as an actual person instead of a stock charecter.
Yeah, I'm the friggin' opposite of that sadly. I always seem to think a bit too deeply into the characters I see on screen. While I can take the occasional legalized slaughter in a movie or game, I end up thinking "boy, it must suck to get a knife and then a gun to the face".

I'm just one big yellow-belly, aren't I?
 

Chameliondude

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Nah, I think its a good think, the female bosses in mgs4 were some of the most memorable in the series, its more about character than gender
 

Thaluikhain

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Well, gender issues in videogames are a bit awkward.

On the one hand, yes, there's nothing written down that says that gamers have to be the stereotypical basement dwelling male. On the other hand, games like Bayonetta were made for a reason. Women in all forms of media are still often eyecandy/love interests/wish fulfillment...when was the last time you saw a junkie action movie where random mook to get shot #4 was a woman, and nothing was said about it?
 

LarenzoAOG

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Jumplion said:
LarenzoAOG said:
Sexy Street said:
LarenzoAOG said:
I am incapable of really worrying about killing pixels and 1s and 0s from a moral standpoint.
Well, based on this you shouldn't ever get emotional from reading a sad book or movie, and never feel anything towards the struggles of the imaginary characters of such other media (not trying to be mean :/)
OT: I always turn off my sense of humanity while playing a game, but if the character talks, screams, or does anything that would make them seem more human as a character then I become a tad bit squeamish. And, talking about the female mercenaries, I don't think it really matters if they are female and male, just don't have them scream.
Ok, I might have been a little to hard on fictional people, I do get caught up in good books and movies and games, but thats when the charecters are presented like real people, I don't feel sorry for the nameless mercany I just shot because she was just Merc #7 to me, when I goy Tali killed on the last mission I immediatley loaded so I could prevent that from happening because I could see her as an actual person instead of a stock charecter.
Yeah, I'm the friggin' opposite of that sadly. I always seem to think a bit too deeply into the characters I see on screen. While I can take the occasional legalized slaughter in a movie or game, I end up thinking "boy, it must suck to get a knife and then a gun to the face".

I'm just one big yellow-belly, aren't I?
Yes you are, but we won't judge you. ;)
 

Andothul

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It really depends on the context and the game i am playing.

Usually killing women enemies in games doesn't phase me but there have been instances where i felt bad and even hesitated.

The best example i can think of at the moment is in God of War 3 where Kratos kills Hera
i was rather taken aback by how brutal the scene was and how much it reminded me of domestic violence honestly lol.

So yeah can usually kill females with no problem but there are times where you hesitate
 

SimuLord

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If something's hostile, I don't care if its 3D model has a couple of extra bubbles on it. It's just a pile of pixels and it's just as dead when I shoot it.
 

nomzy

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I got a little squeemish playing the MoH MP beta. The screams in that game a just fucking brutal.
Other than that, I generally kill everything I need to with complete apathy.

Edit: Didn't dislike the screaming, it was a nice touch that added to immersion.
 

VaudevillianVeteran

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In the Fallout games, I noticed there being more female fiends and raiders than there were males. *Shrugs* Though that might've just been me. I don't think it makes much of a difference aside from the screams being more annoying. I'm talking about hostiles of course, killing innocents, male or female can leave a horrible feeling if the game pulls it off right.
 

WanderingFool

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Well, until they add pregnant female enemies, whither they're male or female, if they are pointing a gun or some weapon in my general direction, and aim to kill me, than the fact they end up dead is their own fault.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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In the Mass Effect world specifically, Sexism is a nigh lost concept isn't it? Men and Women hold equal weight and status in society so i don't see why not.
 

omicron1

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I don't really have a problem with female enemies in games - just in the portrayals major female enemies tend to receive - major female enemies tend to be, for want of a better word, bitches. Major male enemies may have some variation in motive and intent, but not female ones.
 

Yopaz

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The only enemies I dislike killing are the ones that you team up with in the game and start to like. There has been a few I never wanted to kill... There are some enemies you really wish to kill that survives through the game though... that bothers me regardless of gender.
 

Akiada

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What about you? What are your thoughts on female enemies in games? What about when they give out a scream? Do other people share my feelings, or am I a lone pussy who can't take (or dish out, whatever) a headshot to a lowly peon?
I like female enemies in games. It adds an element of realism - not everyone who picks up a gun or sword or whatever has a pair between the legs, y'know?

And I kill them as dead as anyone else. 'tis only fair.


To expand further on this topic, what are your feelings on games having increasingly realistic feedbacks on how enemies react to combat? Like you shooting an enemy on the arm with a shotgun, and they spin around and writh in pain or something?
Sometimes there's a sort of perverse pleasure to it. When I did one of the early quests in STALKER: Call of Pripyat involving some Bandits whom I double-crossed to save the Stalkers the bandits were going to murder and rob there was a sick satisfaction in dropping a pair of live grenades into the bandit group from behind, pulling out my engraved, government-issue Makarov and executing the survivors as they lay there either too wounded to get up or too slow to rise to their feet and collect their weapons.

The feeling was pretty much, well:



It was sort of an immersive intro to the kind of harsh place that The Zone is. Realistic feedback works really really well when it fits with the tone of the game. In stalker a firefight is not good, clean fun. People get wounded and die.
 

DanielDeFig

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While i can agree that killing a female enemy is something i find disturbing (as a guy), i still think that a more sexually diverse set of both goons and allies is definitely a step forward and should be encouraged.

Bioware's Dragon Age: Origins made me stop and think, when i realized that it was portraying a medieval fantasy setting where female soldiers stood side by side with their male comrades, and no-one made a big deal about it.