Poll: Final Fantasy XIII
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Most people are getting tired of the final fantasy universe. Others are complaining about small pointless things being missing (like town, which I personally couldn't care less about,except for that one kid in FF10) and the final haters don't have the patience the game desires.
6 and 8 personally, but its good to find another 8-headRadeonx said:
not many people seem to like it for some reason, most prefer 7, which i found to be a bit mediocre
7-10 I loved. 12 was poor. 13 was atrocious.
I hated all the characters except Sazh. And he annoyed me with one particular line about "what a truly humbling testament to the power of teamwork!" All the other characters annoy me. Especially Hope and Vanille.
I also don't like the combat system. While I get the general idea of paradigms, its very annoying being forced into using a character you don't like because they're the only one that gets protect and shell (Hope) and it makes combat far too formulaic. All I ever do on a tough boss is use Sazh to crack out Haste on everyone, then relentless assault unless someone needs healing in which case diversity.
Auto-attack is annoying as well, it's like the games playing for you and you just get to watch.
It's far, far too linear-a left turn seems like the biggest thing in the world at some point. And yes, I have played the requisite 20 hours to get to the open world, but all I saw was a huge plain and a quest telling me to kill a monster in some place I've never heard of and a map that doesn't list place names. And that meagre freedom vanished when you get to the other side of the plain and are forced back into linear rooms.
In conclusion, awful story, awful characters, poor combat system, not enough to do on the side-if anything.
But that's just me
I hated all the characters except Sazh. And he annoyed me with one particular line about "what a truly humbling testament to the power of teamwork!" All the other characters annoy me. Especially Hope and Vanille.
I also don't like the combat system. While I get the general idea of paradigms, its very annoying being forced into using a character you don't like because they're the only one that gets protect and shell (Hope) and it makes combat far too formulaic. All I ever do on a tough boss is use Sazh to crack out Haste on everyone, then relentless assault unless someone needs healing in which case diversity.
Auto-attack is annoying as well, it's like the games playing for you and you just get to watch.
It's far, far too linear-a left turn seems like the biggest thing in the world at some point. And yes, I have played the requisite 20 hours to get to the open world, but all I saw was a huge plain and a quest telling me to kill a monster in some place I've never heard of and a map that doesn't list place names. And that meagre freedom vanished when you get to the other side of the plain and are forced back into linear rooms.
In conclusion, awful story, awful characters, poor combat system, not enough to do on the side-if anything.
But that's just me
i disliked FFXIII for one reason. The story was wonderful. the pacing didn't bother me. However, i loathed the combat system. The combat system was, if possible, too streamlined. the "Real time" system left too little time to plan, giving it a more reaction based feel. Unless, that is, you hit the auto-battle button. But then, you're no longer playing the game, the game is playing itself.
Don't get me wrong. I love unusual rpg systems. FFXII was one of my favorite, as was FFX. However, the time to actually select the select my abilities, and the ability to control exactly how my allies move.
Don't get me wrong. I love unusual rpg systems. FFXII was one of my favorite, as was FFX. However, the time to actually select the select my abilities, and the ability to control exactly how my allies move.
III, VIII, and XIII - the three worst core FF games.
XIII had a number of problems that kept it from reaching it's potential greatness. Not the least of which was it's pacing and the linearity of the game. However, other major concerns involved a lack of character motivation, and mind-bogglingly stupid character-made decisions, an adolecent grasp of action and conssequense in the plot. LUDICROUSLY poor storytelling. Overstructured character development. A failure to appropriately mete out rewards for achievement. Poor handling of motivational factors for players. Poor content balance pre and post-ending. A TERRIBLE goodamn ending.
As a "JRPG" it probably would have been seen as an ok game under some other title.
It was SHIT by comparison to the Final Fantasy Franchise.
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XIII had a number of problems that kept it from reaching it's potential greatness. Not the least of which was it's pacing and the linearity of the game. However, other major concerns involved a lack of character motivation, and mind-bogglingly stupid character-made decisions, an adolecent grasp of action and conssequense in the plot. LUDICROUSLY poor storytelling. Overstructured character development. A failure to appropriately mete out rewards for achievement. Poor handling of motivational factors for players. Poor content balance pre and post-ending. A TERRIBLE goodamn ending.
As a "JRPG" it probably would have been seen as an ok game under some other title.
It was SHIT by comparison to the Final Fantasy Franchise.
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It feels like final fantasy is making a rather formulaic progression.
FF1 was huge, and FF2 and FF3 are pretty popular as well. But the next game I hear pracically everyone talk about is FF4. FF5 and FF6 were basically the same as 2 and 3, but then the next huge game was FF7. FF8 and FF9 were also popular, but not nearly as much as 7. Then FF10 came out, and it is wildly popular.
See the progression thus far? Every 3rd game hypes the series back up. Now, after 10, it gets a little wonky because 11 and 14 are MMOs. Frankly I don't think we should count them. I've heard people bash 12 and 13 constantly, saying they aren't nearly as good. Frankly, following the progression, it looks like these two are the 'filler' games, and the next one in the actual numeric series (FF15) might be the next great game people are looking for.
This is all just a theory from my own observations. 2, 3, not nearly as popular as 1. 5, 6, not nearly as popular as 4. 8, 9, not nearly as popular as 7. 12, 13, not nearly as well recieved as 10. 11 and 14 are MMOs and IMO not part of the numeric system, so maybe 15 might be better. Maybe.
FF1 was huge, and FF2 and FF3 are pretty popular as well. But the next game I hear pracically everyone talk about is FF4. FF5 and FF6 were basically the same as 2 and 3, but then the next huge game was FF7. FF8 and FF9 were also popular, but not nearly as much as 7. Then FF10 came out, and it is wildly popular.
See the progression thus far? Every 3rd game hypes the series back up. Now, after 10, it gets a little wonky because 11 and 14 are MMOs. Frankly I don't think we should count them. I've heard people bash 12 and 13 constantly, saying they aren't nearly as good. Frankly, following the progression, it looks like these two are the 'filler' games, and the next one in the actual numeric series (FF15) might be the next great game people are looking for.
This is all just a theory from my own observations. 2, 3, not nearly as popular as 1. 5, 6, not nearly as popular as 4. 8, 9, not nearly as popular as 7. 12, 13, not nearly as well recieved as 10. 11 and 14 are MMOs and IMO not part of the numeric system, so maybe 15 might be better. Maybe.
Too linear
Terrible characters
Awful story
Battle system that made me feel I shouldn't be playing just let the computer do it
Repetitive music no where near as good as Nobo's work
Lack of money from battles made buying things difficult
Battles could be ridiculously long even for normal battles
Bosses were uninspiring
Upgrading weapons was stupid, I like getting new weapons
No towns was stupid, I liked the warmth you get from towns in previous games
No seriously he worst characters in any final fantasy, even worse than 8's
Screen tearing was constant during the most interesting places
Is that enough reason?
Terrible characters
Awful story
Battle system that made me feel I shouldn't be playing just let the computer do it
Repetitive music no where near as good as Nobo's work
Lack of money from battles made buying things difficult
Battles could be ridiculously long even for normal battles
Bosses were uninspiring
Upgrading weapons was stupid, I like getting new weapons
No towns was stupid, I liked the warmth you get from towns in previous games
No seriously he worst characters in any final fantasy, even worse than 8's
Screen tearing was constant during the most interesting places
Is that enough reason?
You mean the kid who wanted to be a Blitzball in Killika? Seriously, was that intentional?MCDeltaT said:
My problem with FFXIII is that it absolutely flopped on all levels. Storytelling was less than sub-par, character development was pretty weak-sauce, I couldn't care less about any of them. Vanille blew my mind with her stupid...stupidness. The combat was insanely dull too. The only thing the game had going for it was looking nice, but any developer with half an arse can pull that off. The music was terrible, the corridor-navigation gameplay just sucked, and was generally the biggest failure since Ravioli.
Oh, and this is coming from a fan of the FF series up until XII.
THIS. 1000 times this!The Rockerfly said:
It was so repetetive. Moving from A to B, watching a dull and uninteresting cutscene involving bland and annoying characters in a flat, deflated plotline, then fighting a long and tedious boss battle whilst rapidly pressing X the entire time, repeat
The towns in FF games are great, they create the world itself, with NPCs to talk to, shops and houses to explore, calming music to listen to. Without that key aspect, the game feels like a slide, literally, just pushing you down this linear slide which slowly got worse and worse until your arse hit the floor with a disappointing and painful thud
