Poll: Firearms F.A.Q. IRL Edition (read first post if you are entering thread for the first time)

[Stickyreiss]

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top score so far goes to Exocet with a score of 13/25 or 52%

EDIT: the Musket pistol must be identified by the action
EDIT: upon further inspection the first one is actually incredibly difficult. there is one telltale sign however.
EDIT: 3 Attempts, the best of which will be counted

FUN TRIVIA TIME
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First person to label these correctly wins an INTERNET and some cake as well
specifics are needed as in specific model and variant information, and if no one gets 100% i will take the top score. The contest ends on Sunday the 13th at 9:00 PM eastern.

 

[UltraParanoia]

I don't understand airsoft.


I've seen pictures of the guys who do the huge airsoft things(I'm not sure what they're called, but like paintball with pellets) and they spend ungodly amounts of money on it.

Hell, I had someone on another forum tell me they spent 500 bucks on their airsoft gun.

I can buy a few actual guns for that, so can someone explain this to me?

 

[Stickyreiss]

I don't understand airsoft.


I've seen pictures of the guys who do the huge airsoft things(I'm not sure what they're called, but like paintball with pellets) and they spend ungodly amounts of money on it.

Hell, I had someone on another forum tell me they spent 500 bucks on their airsoft gun.

I can buy a few actual guns for that, so can someone explain this to me?

so they can shoot them at people?
people do weird things that others don't understand, thats life.

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

I don't understand airsoft.


I've seen pictures of the guys who do the huge airsoft things(I'm not sure what they're called, but like paintball with pellets) and they spend ungodly amounts of money on it.

Hell, I had someone on another forum tell me they spent 500 bucks on their airsoft gun.

I can buy a few actual guns for that, so can someone explain this to me?

It's more realistic than paintballing and the guns look better

 

[Stickyreiss]

I don't understand airsoft.


I've seen pictures of the guys who do the huge airsoft things(I'm not sure what they're called, but like paintball with pellets) and they spend ungodly amounts of money on it.

Hell, I had someone on another forum tell me they spent 500 bucks on their airsoft gun.

I can buy a few actual guns for that, so can someone explain this to me?

It's more realistic than paintballing and the guns look better

i say paintball is more realistic(woodsball not speedball) airsoft is "oh hey that kinda stings"
paintball (we play on private land, no FPS regulations) is "OH JESUS SHIT OW FUCK FUCK FUCK"

 

[Wicky_42]

also, germany, which has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, has had 3 times more school shootings resulting in 5 times more deaths than the us has.

3. You like the idea of higher violent crime as a pay-off against petty crime?! Jesus, that's practically the entire argument of the anti-gun lobby, surely - that ownership and availability of guns can very easily escalate petty crimes into serious ones! And you seem to think that that's a good thing -_-U

School shootings are a petty crime now?

And for all the "just let the police handle it" people, in the UK most cops don't even carry guns. So if one crazy guy with a gun shows up there isn't going to be ANYONE to stop him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6YXqhhLKnQ shows just how useless police are without a gun, or at least a tazer. Gun control is really out of hand when they won't even allow the police to use one.

Wow, ok, way to take a quote out of context XD - the part I was responding to, if you think for a second, might perhaps have been:

despite america having a higher violent crime rate countries with restrictive gun laws, those same countries typically have higher petty crime rates (home burglary, robbery, muggings, etc) than the us.

See how that makes more sense? Nub.

As for 'UK cops don't carry guns so how can they deal with armed violence', that's what we have ARMED POLICE for. You know, trained specialists in dealing with armed situations, not normal beat cops dealing with everything from fist-fights to shootouts. I've been on the wrong side of these guys once (damn airsoft guns, lol). and they are incredibly professional and skilled. I feel much safer knowing that there's guys like these ready to respond in the case of a serious incident than I would be knowing that if I get pulled over on the road by a trigger-happy cop having a bad day and make a wrong move I could get blown away.

As to 'cops need guns to do their jobs' - wtf?! Would that video have been better if the cops had shot the guys? No, then it would have been a massacre. As a deterrent? Maybe, but are you saying that no US cop has ever been beaten up by a group of drunks? Bullshit.

As to your last well though-out point, gun control seems to me to be in good control when cops don't need to carry them...

4. If you're being threatened with a gun, drawing your own is, imo, FAR more likely to result in someone getting hurt than just backing down and letting the police handle it. Loosing your life over a mugging's not worth you wallet or phone.

not really concerned with the rest, but if the criminal gets the drop on you. you're screwed. hand over what he wants. If you are aware of of your surroundings (not paranoid) you can prevent the situation in the majority of the time.

If you're aware of your surroundings you don't need a gun anyway. Same as with combating knife crime - you don't carry one yourself, you just avoid dangerous places. Obvious, really. In fact, carrying a gun could be detrimental to your safety as it's likely to make you feel safer even when you shouldn't - that, I believe, is the situation with knives.

The disadvantage of everyone packing heat is that you can't just run away as easily in a sticky situation. If someone wants to shoot you, there's not a lot you can do about it on an every-day basis - they can just pull up next to you and drop you there and then, no warning. Carrying a gun yourself would be redundant.

 

[UltraParanoia]

i say paintball is more realistic(woodsball not speedball) airsoft is "oh hey that kinda stings"
paintball (we play on private land, no FPS regulations) is "OH JESUS SHIT OW FUCK FUCK FUCK"

Beat me to it.
I've been hit with both of em, the paintballs are the ones I don't want hitting me ever again.

I knew people in high school who used to freeze em, the dicks.

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

I don't understand airsoft.


I've seen pictures of the guys who do the huge airsoft things(I'm not sure what they're called, but like paintball with pellets) and they spend ungodly amounts of money on it.

Hell, I had someone on another forum tell me they spent 500 bucks on their airsoft gun.

I can buy a few actual guns for that, so can someone explain this to me?

It's more realistic than paintballing and the guns look better

i say paintball is more realistic(woodsball not speedball) airsoft is "oh hey that kinda stings"
paintball (we play on private land, no FPS regulations) is "OH JESUS SHIT OW FUCK FUCK FUCK"

Aesthetically more realistic then

Also I tweek'd my answers a little, Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR (guessing the standard variant)
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. M9, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 17/18(Silhouettes are evil.)

By the way silhouettes are evil.

 

[Stickyreiss]

Also I tweek'd my answers a little, Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR (guessing the standard variant)
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. M9, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 19 (Silhouettes are evil.)

By the way silhouettes are evil.

12/25, 48% so close to first place, one more try
these are the hardest ones (even for me) most of the mistakes (for everyone) made have been variant mistakes, so far, no one has gotten #1, 4, 12, 14, 21, or 22

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

Also I tweek'd my answers a little, Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 19 (Silhouettes are evil.)

By the way silhouettes are evil.

12/25, 48% so close to first place, one more try

Changed 2 on row 5. No idea what model the Deagle is =(

Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 17/18 (Silhouettes are evil.)

 

[Zacharine]

Another inquiry, what's the most dangerous thing ever happened to you with firearms?

Military training, a full day at a firing range with our service rifles (SAKO Rk-95 Tp [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rk_95_Tp]) when one utter idiot managed to turn around with his loaded rifle (live ammo of course) and almost point to the rest of us because..... well, we never were too clear on what he was thinking. Me, and my friend on the other side, we managed to react fast enough.

Engage safety, put our own guns down on the mat (pointing towards the targets) and grab the weapon of the guy about to put 20+ guys into potentially mortal danger. Luckily, the instructors had seen it as well, calling for a halt and running towards us.

The guy who we disarmed.... we don't know what came over him. He was just messed up, like if he was on drugs, or sleepwalking or something. He was under no medication, the MPs who came to the scene with drug dogs proclaimed him clean (pending a blood test, which would have had to come back clean as he was not discharged) and he wasn't in fever either.

Nevertheless, we never again saw him in the firing range. He had been forced (well, coerced, as no one can strictly legally speaking force that decision) into switching to weaponless service.

The rest of us, we were damned glad. After over 3 weeks of cold-practice and gun safety training and excersices, he really should have known better.

 

[Stickyreiss]

Also I tweek'd my answers a little, Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 19 (Silhouettes are evil.)

By the way silhouettes are evil.

12/25, 48% so close to first place, one more try

Changed 2 on row 5. No idea what model the Deagle is =(

Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A2 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 (from the look of the trigger), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E, F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 17/18 (Silhouettes are evil.)

13/25, 52% tied first place

 

[Nickolai77]

Row 3 four along.. is that a lewis machine gun? (Clip looks a bit small though..) The fifth one along i would suggest could be a Le-Enfield rifle, possibly a Mk3.

Not going to try and guess the others that are circled, i can not think that what they could be beyond what has already been guessed. Unless the LT-85 is of the A1 varient.

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A3 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 IW w/susat sight (from the look of the trigger I won't believe this is an a1), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82a1, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E (I refuse to believe this is an MG36 but gimme points if it is), F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 Mod.0 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 18 (Silhouettes are evil.)

12/25, 48% so close to first place, one more try
these are the hardest ones (even for me) most of the mistakes (for everyone) made have been variant mistakes, so far, no one has gotten #1, 4, 12, 14, 21, or 22

 

[Rigs83]

I just read that in Americuh a 9 year old got a junior 12 gauge shotgun for christmas and he used it to kill his father's pregnant girlfriend...

Is that a question? In America we have guns because we are expected to be self reliant while in Europe you rely on the US to protect you from all the scary things. People abuse a right and we have laws to punish them for it. Would you feel more comfortable if the kid had burned down the house with the pregnant woman inside instead? Or would you demand that all lighters, matches and rubbing two stick together be banned?

what was "in Europe you rely on the US to protect you from all the scary things" supposed to mean?
and no i dont think 9 year olds should posses firearms and even if they do they should be locked away when not in use and always used under adult supervision. Same with matches, lighters, gasoline and everything else dangerous..

when responding in this thread, please be more courteous, I will not have a flame war starting in my thread.
Please don't make me have to post about this again.
do not respond to this, it is non negotiable. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just don't let me see this again. I don't care who was right or wrong, it is over.

My apologies.

 

[Stickyreiss]

Row 1. AK47 AKM? (Silhouettes are evil.), G36(standard or KE) (Silhouettes are evil.), FN F2000 with its sexy scope, m16A3 ,AUG m1 Carbine.
Row 2. Mp5 SDa3, FAMAS f1, XM8 (normal config), LA85 A2 IW w/susat sight (from the look of the trigger I won't believe this is an a1), SCAR standard variant
Row 3. SVD, M82a1, Remington 870 , MG42, SMLE MK3 (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 4. A flint lock glock [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23mdnE31Rs], FN P90, Micro UZI, G36E (I refuse to believe this is an MG36 but gimme points if it is), F1 Hand grenade (Silhouettes are evil.)
Row 5. Beretta 92FS, MK23 Mod.0 SOCOM, FN Five-Seven, D.Eagle, Block Glock 18 (Silhouettes are evil.)

still,no one has gotten #1, 4, 12, 14, 21, or 22
also, no one has gotten the action on the musket correct.

13/25, 52%, tripple tied for first place

 

[Koeryn]

bumping to next page

top score so far goes to Exocet with a score of 13/25 or 52%

EDIT: the Musket pistol must be identified by the action
EDIT: upon further inspection the first one is actually incredibly difficult. there is one telltale sign however.

FUN TRIVIA TIME
____________________________________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________________________________


First person to label these correctly wins an INTERNET and some cake as well
specifics are needed as in specific model and variant information, and if no one gets 100% i will take the top score. The contest ends on Sunday the 13th at 9:00 PM eastern.

Left to right, top to bottom:

Row 1: AKM, H&K G36, FN2000, M16A2, Steyr AUG A1 Carbine

Row 2: H&K MP-5SD3, FAMAS F1, X-M8 (Standard), Enfield L85-A2 (also the SA80), FN SCAR Mk.16 (Curved magazine vs the boxier magazine associated with the 7.62 version).

Row 3: Snaiperskaya Vintovka Dragunova (The Dragunov SVD), Barret M82A1, Remington 870, American "Lewis" LMG , SMLE No.1 MkIII

Row 4: Percussion Cap (possibly French), FN P90, Isreali Micro-Uzi, H&K G36E, M26 Frag grenade (not a firearm, technically)

Row 5: H&K MK23 Mod 0(Has a heavier slide than the USP Tactical), FN-FiveSeveN, IMI Desert Eagle Mk.XIX 6" barrel chambered .50AE, Glock 17

Those are my answers as best I can see.

NOTES-

I said AKM, as the earlier models generally have the rear-sling mount on the side of the stock, not under it.

The 870 has no sights, and no shortened barrel, so it's not a law-enforcement or military style. If you want to be bitchy, I guess you could say it has an extended tube, but that's standard enough that I wouldn't mention it to be honest.

XM-8 is in the basic infantry set-up.

First G-36 has no designation beyond "G-36". That set up is the standard version, and the one used by the German Military. If it had a shorter barrel, it would be the K. If it had iron sights, "flat top" carry handle, and a dramatically shortened fore end and barrel, it would be the C.

For the Desert Eagle, there's not much you can do to identify caliber based on silhouettes, but let's face it. It's a Desert Eagle, and it's on the Internet. By the laws of the internet, there's only one caliber it CAN be. Also, since it's the .50AE, it's the Mk.XIX, as the Mk.I-VII were only chambered for .357, .41, and .44.


So, how'd I do?

 

[Stickyreiss]

Left to right, top to bottom:

Row 1: AKM, H&K G36, FN2000, M16A2, Steyr AUG A1 Carbine

Row 2: H&K MP-5SD3, FAMAS F1, X-M8 (Standard), Enfield L85-A2 (also the SA80), FN SCAR Mk.16 (Curved magazine vs the boxier magazine associated with the 7.62 version).

Row 3: Snaiperskaya Vintovka Dragunova (The Dragunov SVD), Barret M82A1, Remington 870, American "Lewis" LMG , SMLE No.1 MkIII

Row 4: Percussion Cap (possibly French), FN P90, Isreali Micro-Uzi, H&K G36E, M26 Frag grenade (not a firearm, technically)

Row 5: H&K MK23 (Has a heavier slide than the USP Tactical), FN-FiveSeveN, IMI Desert Eagle Mk.XIX 6" barrel chambered .50AE, Glock 17

Those are my answers as best I can see.

NOTES-

I said AKM, as the earlier models generally have the rear-sling mount on the side of the stock, not under it.

The 870 has no sights, and no shortened barrel, so it's not a law-enforcement or military style. If you want to be bitchy, I guess you could say it has an extended tube, but that's standard enough that I wouldn't mention it to be honest.

XM-8 is in the basic infantry set-up.

First G-36 has no designation beyond "G-36". That set up is the standard version, and the one used by the German Military. If it had a shorter barrel, it would be the K. If it had iron sights, "flat top" carry handle, and a dramatically shortened fore end and barrel, it would be the C.

For the Desert Eagle, there's not much you can do to identify caliber based on silhouettes, but let's face it. It's a Desert Eagle, and it's on the Internet. By the laws of the internet, there's only one caliber it CAN be. Also, since it's the .50AE, it's the Mk.XIX, as the Mk.I-VII were only chambered for .357, .41, and .44.


So, how'd I do?

14/25, 56% first place
first one to tell the percussion cap from flintlock, but oh god there were so many near misses I wanted to give you, but it wouldn't be fair. =(
you also omitted an entry for row 5 column 1
still,no one has gotten #1, 4, 12, 14, or 22

 

[Koeryn]

Left to right, top to bottom:

Row 1: AKM, H&K G36, FN2000, M16A2, Steyr AUG A1 Carbine

Row 2: H&K MP-5SD3, FAMAS F1, X-M8 (Standard), Enfield L85-A2 (also the SA80), FN SCAR Mk.16 (Curved magazine vs the boxier magazine associated with the 7.62 version).

Row 3: Snaiperskaya Vintovka Dragunova (The Dragunov SVD), Barret M82A1, Remington 870, American "Lewis" LMG , SMLE No.1 MkIII

Row 4: Percussion Cap (possibly French), FN P90, Isreali Micro-Uzi, H&K G36E, M26 Frag grenade (not a firearm, technically)

Row 5: H&K MK23 (Has a heavier slide than the USP Tactical), FN-FiveSeveN, IMI Desert Eagle Mk.XIX 6" barrel chambered .50AE, Glock 17

Those are my answers as best I can see.

NOTES-

I said AKM, as the earlier models generally have the rear-sling mount on the side of the stock, not under it.

The 870 has no sights, and no shortened barrel, so it's not a law-enforcement or military style. If you want to be bitchy, I guess you could say it has an extended tube, but that's standard enough that I wouldn't mention it to be honest.

XM-8 is in the basic infantry set-up.

First G-36 has no designation beyond "G-36". That set up is the standard version, and the one used by the German Military. If it had a shorter barrel, it would be the K. If it had iron sights, "flat top" carry handle, and a dramatically shortened fore end and barrel, it would be the C.

For the Desert Eagle, there's not much you can do to identify caliber based on silhouettes, but let's face it. It's a Desert Eagle, and it's on the Internet. By the laws of the internet, there's only one caliber it CAN be. Also, since it's the .50AE, it's the Mk.XIX, as the Mk.I-VII were only chambered for .357, .41, and .44.


So, how'd I do?

14/25, 56% first place
first one to tell the percussion cap from flintlock, but oh god there were so many near misses I wanted to give you, but it wouldn't be fair. =(
you also omitted an entry for row 5 column 1
still,no one has gotten #1, 4, 12, 14, or 22

Crap, must have deleted it when I was editing something. The first pistol in the lot is a Beretta M9 (5-1)

 

[cleverlymadeup]

I don't even know what to say, you have some of the most convoluted logic I've seen, it's late at night, I've been studying for finals all week, and I am too tired to continue this. It is my choice to concealed carry (I don't now, but might after I graduate) and It is your choice not to. lets leave it at that.

actually it's not convoluted at all.

here's how it works

if you are aware of your situation, you stay away from bad places and out of trouble, you'd have no need to have "protection" as you'd never be in danger. by that piece of logic you no longer need a gun for "protection"

pretty simple logic really