Poll: Game Informer's 'Top 200 Games' List, BS?

[Captain Pancake]

I don't like this idea of "best" lists. I prefer to just enjoy the games I buy, like I do with films. I know from my own opinion that Blade Runner is a good film, for example, and I wouldn't want my opinion to be undermined by somebody else ranking some random film above or below it. But, to be fair it is his own opinion and does not reflect the views of gamers as a whole.

 

[ohgodalex]

Critics need to go crawl in a ditch and die so the new generation can take over. These old games simply do not stand up to modern games in any way 85% of the time.

Name one person you know that enjoys Tetris more than they do Modern Warfare 2. Now note that their opinion is invalid because they're in the minority. New games are simply better.

I mostly agree with you but I disagree with you when you say the tetris lover's opinion is invalid at all, let alone just because they're the minority. The opinion itself is still perfectly valid even though tetris is inferior to MW2 by modern standards.

That came out wrong. What I meant is that Tetris doesn't have a place on this list, because the vast majority of gamers could go their entire lives without playing another game of tetris, and they would be all the happier for it. Obviously, Tetris fans have every right to enjoy Tetris.

 

[Hookman]

Well for one thing I think Legend of Zelda,Super Mario Bros and Tetris are far from the top three best games ever *Dodges rocks*. Just because they are famous classic games doesnt mean they are the best. They are good but definetly not in the top 3 spots. There are also several games that definetly do not deserve to be in the top 200 such as Tecmo Super Bowl? Dr. Mario?
There are definetly a lot of games that deserve higher spots but are usurped because of undeserving retro games.

 

[metalmmaniac]

its a pretty good list. while i don't think the order is perfect, (and no psychonauts) i would never be able to rate any farther than my top 10 games, so kudos to whoever put forth the effort.

and the nostalgia factor figures in, because well those are some of the first games people played. they were amazing at the time, and still are, WITHOUT the pretty graphics. thats why a game like legend of zelda trumps MW2 in my opinion.

 

[Markness]

It's not elitism to have the proper amount of respect and appreciation for older games.

I have respect for old games. They were the building blocks. However, they are now boring as shit.

Chrono Trigger [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger] will soon be 15 years old. It's not only more immersive than Dragon Age, but it has more appealing graphics (various shades of brown are not appealing, even if they're in 3D and ZOMG HD NEXT GEN), better [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyemxHCJUNg] music [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qnronNdlxQ], better characters and more fun gameplay.

I have not played this game, though I have heard good things about it. Story of course doesn't really improve over time so I guess a story based game could possibly still be fun to play. However gameplay and graphics are definately constantly improving. The gameplay in chrono trigger definately doesn't look so fun. It's probably being done better in a flash game at this point.

Is your knowledge of video game history so shitty that you think any game older than 15 years is like Pacman?

By my knowldege Doom is around 15 years old and hailed as one of the best game of its time. I have played it. It was boring.

Zelda, Mario and Tetris are very important games, far more important than Generic War Shooter 4.

Obviously. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument] Are they better games?

 

[MiracleOfSound]

What the fuck are tetris and ms. pac-man doing on that list?! They can not honestly think that a game that makes you move blocks around and one that makes you eat yellow dots are good in any way, but actually better than Final Fantasy 10?!

Same reason the wheel is a more important invention than the car radio.

Don't think of it like that think of it as a wagon wheel was good and all, but you're not putting a car on it.

I'll think of it how I like, thanks.

Pacman and Tetris were, for thier time, two of the most important and influential games ever made.

They were also about as close to technically perfect as games get. Simple, functional and elegant.

Sure, today's games are shinier and prettier, but these two shaped the entire medium.

 

[RyuGaiden]

No list should be this long. The general rule should be one game per franchise.

 

[slipknot4]

Not even 150 of those titles would have made my list.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Oblivion OR Morrowind > Legend of Zelda.

That alone I can't agree with. And I like Morrowind.

But what exactly does Legend of Zelda do better than Morrowind?

Storyline, effects, training and overall look/feel. Morrowind breaks atmosphere by keeping you bring up pages to do things, and has that little array of "helps" like Only Regenerates in Darkness when you spend 90% of your time underground...

For atmosphere, Morrowind gets it; but Zelda allows for so much more without overwhelming.

At least someone understands what I'm saying.

I understand what you're saying but I disagree. Without Doom, Modern Warfare simply wouldn't exist; so votes for the son also affect the grand-dad.
Equally, the limitations of the time can count for and against, otherwise the top three should be Space Wars(first game), Space Invaders(bankrupted Japan) and Pacman(first character driven game and first monster AI).

 

[wrightofway]

4 -- Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Xbox, 2003)
188 -- Planescape: Torment (PC, 1999)

Game Informer has lost all credibility.

*checks what Final Fantasies are on there*

3, 7, 10, Tactics, 2, 12.
This list sucks.

I think they might be using the American numbering system for the Final Fantasy games, because there is no way in hell anyone would put in 2 and 3 and leave out 4 and 6.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

I like that GTA3 and HL2 beat out SUPER FREAKIN' METROID and Ocarina of Time. Bullshit with a side order of "whaaaaaat?!?!?" please.

GTA3 wasn't a good game, why can people not see this? In fact the GTA series as a whole reeks of mediocrity. Ugh.

This is coming from the guy who thinks COD4 was the best online shooter ever.
Just...no.

Uhhh no I don't. I've posted several dozen times that I think Halo 2 was the best online shooter ever. CoD4 is close, but Halo 2 revolutionized multiplayer on consoles.

 

[Markness]

Ok, disregrading what you said about Dragon Age, even though I think its a great game It's a bit off topic.

Doom was groundbreaking when it was released. Of course it was one of the best games of its time. It's also still more fun than many modern FPS games.

More fun? I'm telling you again, shed your nostalgia and look at it through a clear filter. Imagine if Doom was released today. I can tell you a few things everyone would have to say about it. Terrible graphics, completely unrealistic, terrible story, gameplay simple and shallow. 0/10. Nothing Doom has hasn't been improved hundreds of times over.

The only way of trying to compile a list like this is to determine what games have been the most important. Whether a game is good or not is far too subjective.

Every Criteria is completely subjective. The most impartial way I can think of is average review scores and take away a certain number out of 100 every few years. Ie newer games would have an advantage. Also top 200 most important games has no reason to be made. Top 200 funnest would help people decide what games are worth playing.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Some of the entries I thought would've been higher on the list like Eternal Darkness for example.