Poll: God I miss Isometric
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Jesus Christ. I want to decapitate you.boag said:
How is having the balls to actually end your story instead of leaving the door open to tiresome cash-ins the same as clusterfucked?
The OP didn't even ask for literal sequels to specific games, just more games in the spirit of isometric games like those (and I agree with him).
You may have been having some obscure little joke, of course. Being ironic or something like that. In which case I still want to decapitate you. I just feel like decapitating. In an isometric perspective.
I prefer Isometric because (if the game is made well) you don't have to fight the camera. And you don't have to spend alot of time searching around new rooms with the camera to find things.
To get your modern Isometric fix please give Bastion a play through. Its short but worth every penny of your 14 bucks.Doitpow said:
I never cared for isometric games, as I always seemed to get caught behind some piece of scenery where I had no clue what was happening. Might be kind of cool for RTS or turn-based-combat RPGs, but pretty horrible for any kind of action game, and since I prefer action games...
It's like those side-scrollers where they kept putting objects (like pillars) between you and your character. No, just NO!!!
It's like those side-scrollers where they kept putting objects (like pillars) between you and your character. No, just NO!!!
If someone asked me, I'd probably say that I hate isometric games. I've played way too many flash games. But I know that if I get my hands on a game, I'll probably like it even if it's isometric. Basically, I would like it if games weren't isometric if they can avoid it, but I won't say that a game is bad just because of the perspective being isometric.
I love isometric, and am sad that it's mostly gone. Any strategy game or RPG that goes isometric gets instant points from me.
It's not just nostalgia, either. I grew up with bird's eye and third person games, and I only recently started playing X-COM, which I can agree is amazing.
It's not just nostalgia, either. I grew up with bird's eye and third person games, and I only recently started playing X-COM, which I can agree is amazing.
I think one of the big points here is that the isometric view helped a lot of the old RPG's because it was cheaper. The environment was essentially a painting, there were no faces that had to be animated to match speech, and lack of camera control meant that objects didn't need a backside to be drawn.
So, you can add more dialogue options just by typing them. And level design could take a mere few hours instead of months. All of these mean more creative things could be added without the worry of adding to the animation team's workload.
Yes, the isometric view severely limits your camera control and fancy graphics. But one thing it doesn't limit is your imagination!
...That may just be the cheesiest thing I've ever typed.
So, you can add more dialogue options just by typing them. And level design could take a mere few hours instead of months. All of these mean more creative things could be added without the worry of adding to the animation team's workload.
Yes, the isometric view severely limits your camera control and fancy graphics. But one thing it doesn't limit is your imagination!
...That may just be the cheesiest thing I've ever typed.
I never liked isometric. Turning the map 45 degrees to make it look prettier and harder to use seemed like a step backwards. I prefer either straight top down like in Civilization 1 or Wasteland, or third person 3D with good camera controls like Total War series or Jagged Alliance BIA.
Isometric view was an aesthetic hack to make 2D graphics look 3D'ish, and there was a time when it made sense.
Isometric view was an aesthetic hack to make 2D graphics look 3D'ish, and there was a time when it made sense.
In Baldurs Gate you rampage across Dimensions fighting Demons and Demigods and at the end ascend to god hoood while your friends fuck off to nowheresville.Skoldpadda said:
I consider that a clusterfuck ending, an Awesome Clusterfuck ending, but a clusterfuck ending nonetheless, I dont see why you would want to cause physical harm to someone, for having a different opinion than yours. Its a very irrational reaction.
I hope this outcry for isometric perspective games doesn't get too loud. Sure it was kind of neat in it's own way, but the reason those games were good had little to nothing to do with the isometric perspective. We don't need developers starting to cash in on our nostalgia by making lackluster lookalikes, if they're gonna cash in on our nostalgia they'd better do it properly! Not just by applying an old graphical style and calling it a day.
Final Fantasy Tactics was a great one. Tactical games like that just seem to fit better with an isometric view. You could still rotate the camera around too, but it kept that viewpoint.