Poll: grammar in forums
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thanking you, be having cookie nowFanusc101 said:Legible
See how grammer can be your friend. rather than complain about people complaining about grammer, merely help those in need of grammer help in a kind and calm fashion, you may even be rewarded.
If you can't understand that, then it serves the point of needing good grammer all the more.
If you cannot be bothered to keep your post in the confines of the most basic rules of grammar(Punctuation, commas, spacing, etc.) then you shouldn't write. It makes you look stupid when you type in all lower-case letters, and don't bother to use a comma. All the rest of us do it, and we're not the least bit strained by it.
We have non-native speakers of English, and they type better than you do. You have no excuse.
We have non-native speakers of English, and they type better than you do. You have no excuse.
You misspelled 'grammar' every single time you wrote it. It kind of weakens your argument in favor of good grammar.TheNumber1Zero said:thanking you, be having cookie nowFanusc101 said:Legible
See how grammer can be your friend. rather than complain about people complaining about grammer, merely help those in need of grammer help in a kind and calm fashion, you may even be rewarded.
If you can't understand that, then it serves the point of needing good grammer all the more.
Proper use of grammar is outlined in the Posting Guidelines, even.
[link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.116827[/link]
More people should read that...
[link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.116827[/link]
More people should read that...
I noticed a spell checker comment earlier.
Is there really a spell check built into some internet browsers?
Because I have always used IE and assumed that their was little to no difference.
Additionally, while I can use proper grammar my question was: Is it really important on forums? I would never turn in half of the stuff I write here in as a school assignment. It just seems like a forum is more of a place for informal conversation. I write here more like how I would speak with friends, not superiors.
Is there really a spell check built into some internet browsers?
Because I have always used IE and assumed that their was little to no difference.
Additionally, while I can use proper grammar my question was: Is it really important on forums? I would never turn in half of the stuff I write here in as a school assignment. It just seems like a forum is more of a place for informal conversation. I write here more like how I would speak with friends, not superiors.
It's only important if you're wanting to be taken seriously. I have trouble taking a person seriously in an discussion when their grammar and spelling are atrocious. When the topic's lighthearted, I don't mind. If it's a serious discussion, then I find myself paying less attention to the person who doesn't take the time to use good grammar or spelling.
But we're not talking about school. We're talking about conveying your opinion, idea, etc. correctly. Which is pretty much required for all forms of text communication. If you can't use correct spelling and grammar. Then you're screwed basically, because no one will be able to fully understand you.stonethered said:
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Opera has one too. Conform to the non-conformists not conforming to the non-conformists, heh.The Shade said:
Well said. We have nothing else to go by on here other than what you write. If you make no sense and have a ton of misspellings then we are going to invalidate anything you have to say. On the other hand, if you present your idea in a clear and coherent way then we'll take you a lot more seriously.xmetatr0nx said:
I believe that if you've been studying a language for twelve years, not counting college, then you should have some damn capability to write a cohesive sentence.
The only people who have an excuse are those who are foreigners (some of which actually type better than the enigmatic jargon I've seen people spew out) and those who are elementary school kids, and for the latter category I expect to see at least an attempt at competence or, provided that you're second-grade or lower, you shouldn't be on some place as adult as the Internet AT ALL.
Let me give an example from something I got off of Lamebook.com, a site showing particularly faulty moments on Facebook. Granted, it's an extreme example, but it shows exactly what Grammar Nazis are griefing against.
No. Stop.
This is not acceptable.
Thousands of immigrants entering countries all over the world need to prove their competence in the native language before they can even live there, and you can't articulate something you should've been spoonfed from birth. There is no excuse for this. This is not "slang". This is not "accentuated". This is one of the greatest slaps to the face you can give to your upbringing, marking you as someone who struggles to even get the most basic of instincts down. Furthermore, its use perpetuates the idea that it's acceptable to talk like this on the Internet, and drags down the already deteriorating image of E-communities by turning it into a trademark.
I'm not going any further, but personally, I can't stand it when someone tries to cut corners in something that is supposed to be so completely second-nature as writing.
The only people who have an excuse are those who are foreigners (some of which actually type better than the enigmatic jargon I've seen people spew out) and those who are elementary school kids, and for the latter category I expect to see at least an attempt at competence or, provided that you're second-grade or lower, you shouldn't be on some place as adult as the Internet AT ALL.
Let me give an example from something I got off of Lamebook.com, a site showing particularly faulty moments on Facebook. Granted, it's an extreme example, but it shows exactly what Grammar Nazis are griefing against.
No. Stop.
This is not acceptable.
Thousands of immigrants entering countries all over the world need to prove their competence in the native language before they can even live there, and you can't articulate something you should've been spoonfed from birth. There is no excuse for this. This is not "slang". This is not "accentuated". This is one of the greatest slaps to the face you can give to your upbringing, marking you as someone who struggles to even get the most basic of instincts down. Furthermore, its use perpetuates the idea that it's acceptable to talk like this on the Internet, and drags down the already deteriorating image of E-communities by turning it into a trademark.
I'm not going any further, but personally, I can't stand it when someone tries to cut corners in something that is supposed to be so completely second-nature as writing.
Just because what you say in an online forum has no bearing on real life, grammar says a lot about a person's willingness to get a message across. Just that little bit of effort to pretty up a paragraph goes a long way to improving a person's idea of you.
I prefer for things to be readable and comprehensible. Spelling is somewhat of an issue for me as well.
Would you talk as if you only had a basic grasp of english?stonethered said:
Didn't think so.
Yes it's true you still get your point across, but a large amount of effort is needed to read, instead of a small effort by you when writing.
Just put some effort in, thats all anybody asks.
Yes, it is important. Just because you're not being graded on it, it'd be foolish to think that nobody's judging you.stonethered said:
I really can't fathom why people seem to think that grammar and spelling are a preference rather than a necessity. It's no more difficult to write properly than it is to be sloppy about it, that argument is absolutely ridiculous.
You're right though, it is just a place for conversation, but your analogy isn't really valid - the only difference between the way you'd speak with your friends versus superiors is in vocabulary. Nobody's saying you can't use informal vocabulary - everyone does, just look around - but, as I said, grammar and spelling isn't really optional.
Absolutely.Fanusc101 said:
Also, making an effort is not even the term, I'd say making your posts legible is more of a given? I mean, we're not twelve year olds on MSN...