Poll: Guns or Melee?
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ah... which catagory does 'flame thrower' fall under? in games it is often close enough to be considered melee, but in the end, it is a gun that shoots fire. well, aside from a flame thrower, my next choice would be an Axe... even though i love guns, i am more melee centric.
now, if i got a chain axe, i would be all melee all the way.
screaming 'kill maim burn!' while i disembody some one.
now, if i got a chain axe, i would be all melee all the way.
screaming 'kill maim burn!' while i disembody some one.
Steve Dark said:
yeah, swords don't have to be reloaded... but swords are no where near as deadly as guns... and the types of strikes which ARE lethal put you at a massive disadvantage. it is why i would choose an Axe over a sword really. if i hit you with an axe, it is more easily recoverable.
wouldnt this totaly depend on how the game is actualy built?
i dont play 'shooters' at all, im more of an RPG kinda guy. but its been my experiance that usual a game is set up to favor either gun combat or mele combat, and what ever one it favors, the OTHER one usualy just ends up feeling tacked on.
take vampire Bloodlines as an example. its got mele, its got Guns, in fact that are more guns than anything else in the game. but the game clearly favors mele. even if you WANT to use guns its not a reasonable choice when you can kill a person by just jumping on him and drinking him dry in about 5 seconds, or you can pull out your machine gun and shoot 400 rounds into him , taking 10 minuts to do it just to get him to half health.
on the other hand if you play a shooter, you can duck into cover, set up a sniper shot and have a 1 shot kill, or you can drag out your crow bar, and wale on someone for 10 minuts ......... just to get him to half health.
truly this is a clear case as someone else has said of never bringing a knife to a gun fight. or vice versa.
in fact im interested, can anyone think of a game where BOTH choices are valid in almost any situation? real life says that guns are better than mele weapons in all most every situation. in fact i often scoff at the stupidity some games have of making guns somehow LESS dangerious at close range. (Star wars: knights of the old republic for one) you take a hit in damage if your using a friggen blaster pistol at mele range. well let me tell what, if im getting attacked by a guy with a sword in real life and my choices are either having a sword of my own or having a 9MM. i want the friggen gun at ANY range.
some things this would make sence for, after all its kinda hard to draw a bow and fire an arrow at someone who is swinging a sword at you, but just pointin a gun at them and pulling a trigger isnt.
i dont play 'shooters' at all, im more of an RPG kinda guy. but its been my experiance that usual a game is set up to favor either gun combat or mele combat, and what ever one it favors, the OTHER one usualy just ends up feeling tacked on.
take vampire Bloodlines as an example. its got mele, its got Guns, in fact that are more guns than anything else in the game. but the game clearly favors mele. even if you WANT to use guns its not a reasonable choice when you can kill a person by just jumping on him and drinking him dry in about 5 seconds, or you can pull out your machine gun and shoot 400 rounds into him , taking 10 minuts to do it just to get him to half health.
on the other hand if you play a shooter, you can duck into cover, set up a sniper shot and have a 1 shot kill, or you can drag out your crow bar, and wale on someone for 10 minuts ......... just to get him to half health.
truly this is a clear case as someone else has said of never bringing a knife to a gun fight. or vice versa.
in fact im interested, can anyone think of a game where BOTH choices are valid in almost any situation? real life says that guns are better than mele weapons in all most every situation. in fact i often scoff at the stupidity some games have of making guns somehow LESS dangerious at close range. (Star wars: knights of the old republic for one) you take a hit in damage if your using a friggen blaster pistol at mele range. well let me tell what, if im getting attacked by a guy with a sword in real life and my choices are either having a sword of my own or having a 9MM. i want the friggen gun at ANY range.
some things this would make sence for, after all its kinda hard to draw a bow and fire an arrow at someone who is swinging a sword at you, but just pointin a gun at them and pulling a trigger isnt.
2 things...
'Blades don't need reloading' -Max Brooks, 'the Zombie Survival Guide'
and
'Do you know what happens to people with knives? They get shot by people with guns' -some girl in some dumb movie my girlfriend made me watch with her, cuz she was too much of a pansy to watch it alone.
So, I guess I really don't have an opinion. They're both quite useful depending on the scenario...unless you had say a sniper and a shotty...then melee weapons can eat it, for all I care.
'Blades don't need reloading' -Max Brooks, 'the Zombie Survival Guide'
and
'Do you know what happens to people with knives? They get shot by people with guns' -some girl in some dumb movie my girlfriend made me watch with her, cuz she was too much of a pansy to watch it alone.
So, I guess I really don't have an opinion. They're both quite useful depending on the scenario...unless you had say a sniper and a shotty...then melee weapons can eat it, for all I care.
That really does depend on the type of sword or axe involved. If it were I light blade, say a bowie knife, it really be about crippling the opponent, and fatigueing (sp?) them more than outright killing them. Axes, generally but not always being heavier, are meant to defeat the opposition quicker, and, yes, you could recover your stance much faster, but you will normally be exhausted much faster by the act of using one.
swords by default are not killing weapons as opposed to axes and cudgles which are.
the sword is a defencive weapon often putting focus on wounding your foe allowing you the precise blow to finish him off.
if you cleave some one with a broad sword, the blade would get stuck in the body forcing you to saw the blade out to free it, unlike an axe which is designed to easily go in and out with little 'sawing' because its orginal design is to cleave wood.
the sword is a defencive weapon often putting focus on wounding your foe allowing you the precise blow to finish him off.
if you cleave some one with a broad sword, the blade would get stuck in the body forcing you to saw the blade out to free it, unlike an axe which is designed to easily go in and out with little 'sawing' because its orginal design is to cleave wood.
Actually from a martial arts/self defence standpoint blades are significantly more lethal for the following reasons:Pyro Paul said:
1. A gun can only hurt you if the end barrel is facing you, while with a knife the entire blade hurts you.
2. Disarming a gun is significantly easier than disarming a knife being held by the handle.
3. A knife once inside the anatomy can continue to slice for internal damage, while a guns bullet is a small penetration in the human body.
I prefer guns, they work better than pointed sticks when someone is trying to attack you with a banana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piWCBOsJr-w&feature=related
Magic.
Magic shields stop bullets and melee.
And then burn flesh from the inside.
Otherwise, melee.
Magic shields stop bullets and melee.
And then burn flesh from the inside.
Otherwise, melee.
Well i have to say i avoid shooting and stabbing people on a day to day basis.cold killer pov said:what kind of fag avoids combat lol but anyway i say gun fire
gotta love the *ting* of head shots or the arms flying from point blank shot guns, also most shooters have a melle ability so shooting all the way
But in games, guns all the way!
just... wrong.Jonny The Kay said:
1.) a gun can Kill you from half a room a way, further more, the barrel of most common fire arms are shorter than a knife making it rather easy to traverse the muzzle end to a fleshy part of your body. also, note... KILL.
a gun can KILL you. a knife in most altrications can only wound you.
2.) disarming a knife is by far one of the easiest self defence manuvers taught to you in most all martial arts and personal defence courses. this is best clearly outlined in first line most self defence courses when dealing with these respective weapons.
when dealing with a knife, keep the blade away from you and control their wrist.
when dealing with a fire arm, do what they say. there is no point in dying because of a couple of bucks.
3.) a knife has a very small cutting area which only causes minor wounds on the entry points. a bullet of any kind will impart a lot of kenetic energy into the flesh as it slows down, this kenetic energy causes shock a majority of the organs near the entry wound and can often easily kill an individual.
further more, cuts and stabs naturally heal quickly and bleeding can stop 2-5 minutes after words. a gunshot wound on the other hand does not heal quickly and can cause hypovolemic shock and possibly exanguination in 20-30 minutes.