Poll: Hardcore Mode in Skyrim

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Jitters Caffeine

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I was talking to a buddy of mine yesterday about Bethesda games like Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Something I brought up was how immersed I got into Fallout New Vegas during Hardcore Mode. Having to pay attention to you hunger, hydration, and sleep as well as your ammo and health item actually having weight made the game feel MUCH more strategic since I couldn't carry 20 guns and 5000 rounds of ammo for them and I had to think about whether I wanted that really neat new Sniper Rifle or if I wanted stimpacs. There was also the issue of determining whether or not you were rested enough to go Vault diving for treasure.

My point for this topic is this: Would Hardcore Mode be a good fit for Skyrim? Do you think it would be out of place?

The cooking system in Skytim is MUCH deeper and some of the foods have legitimate effects in contrast to New Vegas where they just game mediocre healing and radiation poisoning. There are already beds around Skyrim and they do the same thing they did in New Vegas, that is giving you an experience boost for so many hours. All they would have to add is maybe add other drink choices beside mead and wine such as water to refill your Hydration.

I personally think it would be a fun addition since people seem to be complaining about how easy the game is. What do you think?
 

ZeroMachine

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I want that. So hard.

I was actually a tad disappointed when I saw there wasn't one. But it's only a matter of time until a fan mods it in, or until Bethesda decides to give us one.
 

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Yes. I'm just waiting for the Creation Kit, at which point I'll set up a similar system that New Vegas had with it's hardcore mode, though I will (like I did with New Vegas) take it a bit further and seriously limit carrying capacity and a few other things as well. I loved the hardcore mode (though still not "harcore" enough for me =p) and missed it in Skyrim.

It's a bit sad that the Creation Kit is STILL a while away, I have so many things I want to do with it X3.
 
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They should've done it, they really should. Because currently you have all the cooking recipes and gear but no real incentive to cook (potions heal more). Mead halls all over the shop but no requirement to drink. And it's gonna take more than a slight XP boost to get me sleeping, because my character can spend the time your character is asleep to be out hunting dragons and will have levelled up by the morning.

So yeah, I reckon Bethesda really missed a trick there.
 

Jezzascmezza

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Hardcore mode isn't really for someone like me, so I'm indifferent towards it being in Skyrim.
 

BloatedGuppy

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There wasn't even a Hardcore mode in New Vegas. There was gobbets of food hanging off of every goddam cactus. Instead of being a frantic struggle for survival it just ended up being one more button you pushed every couple of hours. Missed opportunity.

A Hardcore mode in Skyrim where you needed food, water, rest and warmth would be kind of cool though. Maybe give you a reason to carry firewood around in a Blizzard.
 

Polite Sage

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Hardcore mode and eating/drinking animations is what I want. Would make the taverns more immersive, and they would be used as actual resting places. Maybe also add extra bonuses for resting in taverns / your home (compared to sleeping in a cave or dungeon).

And BloatedGuppy's warmth idea is really good.
 

Azure-Supernova

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It might give food a purpose ingame besides healing minute amounts of health. I'm really hoping for a good mod that adds this. Though I'd rather have a a visual or audio cue for hunger instead of a bar or number.
 

Jitters Caffeine

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BloatedGuppy said:
There wasn't even a Hardcore mode in New Vegas. There was gobbets of food hanging off of every goddam cactus. Instead of being a frantic struggle for survival it just ended up being one more button you pushed every couple of hours. Missed opportunity.

A Hardcore mode in Skyrim where you needed food, water, rest and warmth would be kind of cool though. Maybe give you a reason to carry firewood around in a Blizzard.
I guess if that was your experience with Hardcore mode I can't really comment on it. But I always found having the more "complex" dishes really helped instead of just scarfing down coyote tails.
 

spartandude

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I would like that alot, also if they implemented some kind of body heat system, like in areas such os north skyrim where its just ice you would have to wear pelts over your armour to keep warm, eat food ect would be pretty sweet
 

dillinger88

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For me, micro-management of inventory and topping up of arbitrary bars doesn't help immersion. The world and characters do that for me, so I don't agree with that argument. Additionally, I'd prefer higher difficulty to come improved AI etc. or if that isn't possible (likely, due to the scale of the game) then I'd settle for enemies doing more damage or more enemies in a fight.

For those that want the additional work-load, I don't see a problem with it's implementation, it's fairly simple to add weight to arrows and and count down bar that scales certain stats.

So I don't care, but I don't see the problem with it being there.
 

Richardplex

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BloatedGuppy said:
There wasn't even a Hardcore mode in New Vegas. There was gobbets of food hanging off of every goddam cactus. Instead of being a frantic struggle for survival it just ended up being one more button you pushed every couple of hours. Missed opportunity.

A Hardcore mode in Skyrim where you needed food, water, rest and warmth would be kind of cool though. Maybe give you a reason to carry firewood around in a Blizzard.
The warmth thing would be difficult to implement, but if the modders do that might get me to play skyrim again, as that would be pretty awesome.
 

viking97

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yeah, and in hardcore mode fast travel is turned off. sure, this might make it appeal to less people, but it would make the game that much more immersive to me.
 

Jitters Caffeine

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viking97 said:
yeah, and in hardcore mode fast travel is turned off. sure, this might make it appeal to less people, but it would make the game that much more immersive to me.
No it wasn't. You could still fast travel just not if the distance/time it would take to get there would cause your hunger, hydration, or sleep would kill you.
 

faefrost

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You sort of feel like it was something that they wanted to do, and pretty much all of the infrastructure to do it is in game. Food, Cooking, Beds, Rested exp, etc. I mean why else have Inn's charge 10g a night? Or every Bandit Chief drop his hunk of cheese? It just seems like all of the pieces are there, just not switched on for HC mode. It is probably something they wanted in, but got dropped as release schedule closed. Maybe we will get lucky and they will turn it on in a patch. If not there is more than enough already in place for the mod community to go nuts with it.