Poll: Has the Wii U scared you off buying an NX console?

[Yoshi178]

Do you think those Wii ONLY VC titles will transfer over to the NX? Generally speaking their backward compatibility only goes back one gen

that's still more backwards compatibility than MS & Sony have on their systems...

With Sony, if I buy a PS1 Classic I can play it on a handheld and the console with a single purchase while Nintendo makes you buy games once for the console and again for the 3DS. Do you approve of that?

Do you approve of Sony selling you a $200 handheld only to pretty much immediately ditch it only to give it ports, indies and multiplats and then completely abandon the handheld market only a few years later?

There is a reason I ask you to answer honestly, you usually don't so I will try one more time.

So I want an honest answer from you, do you believe NX will have a Wii mode? A mode required to play Wii ONLY VC games, Wii ONLY VC games are games like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana or Super Mario RPG that never made it to the Wii U eShop and cannot currently be played outside of Wii mode?

i doubt it will play Wii Discs but it will likely be backwards compatible with Wii U discs and still have all your digital content on wii u backwards compatible.

...so the Wii VC titles won't work on the NX, in your opinion?

No, I am not happy at the way Sony has dumped the Vita but then I don't need to ask myself if I will buy their next handheld since they aren't making one.

like i just edited. it will likely include your Wii digital content as being backwards compatible as well.

Why do you say that, there is no precedent?

yes there is. Nintendo Network and the My Nintendo accounts unifying everything for a starter.

where's your evidence to say that they won't?

 

[Dragonbums]

Little did I know that the Wii U would be their least supported console of recent years (except for the Virtual Boy). Almost no games from their franchises, and many of those that are feel more like remakes of previous ones: New Super Mario is nowhere near the level of polish other Mario games had, new Star Fox is basically a remake of 64, there are no new Zelda or Metroid, and Nintendo decided to kill it even before there were one.

That tends to happen when a single company is left to basically support their own console and Nintendo can only do so much before having to move on.
As for Zelda, it's getting it. Albeit as a multiplatform release. Which didn't exactly hinder the Gamecube version of the game and Metroid simply made an offshot before going off the the main series but I'd rather not dig up that hot mess of a discussiona again.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Do you think those Wii ONLY VC titles will transfer over to the NX? Generally speaking their backward compatibility only goes back one gen

that's still more backwards compatibility than MS & Sony have on their systems...

With Sony, if I buy a PS1 Classic I can play it on a handheld and the console with a single purchase while Nintendo makes you buy games once for the console and again for the 3DS. Do you approve of that?

Do you approve of Sony selling you a $200 handheld only to pretty much immediately ditch it only to give it ports, indies and multiplats and then completely abandon the handheld market only a few years later?

There is a reason I ask you to answer honestly, you usually don't so I will try one more time.

So I want an honest answer from you, do you believe NX will have a Wii mode? A mode required to play Wii ONLY VC games, Wii ONLY VC games are games like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana or Super Mario RPG that never made it to the Wii U eShop and cannot currently be played outside of Wii mode?

i doubt it will play Wii Discs but it will likely be backwards compatible with Wii U discs and still have all your digital content on wii u backwards compatible.

...so the Wii VC titles won't work on the NX, in your opinion?

No, I am not happy at the way Sony has dumped the Vita but then I don't need to ask myself if I will buy their next handheld since they aren't making one.

like i just edited. it will likely include your Wii digital content as being backwards compatible as well.

Why do you say that, there is no precedent?

yes there is. Nintendo Network and the My Nintendo accounts unifying everything for a starter.

where's your evidence to say that they won't?

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

 

[Yoshi178]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

 

[Poetic Nova]

Too early to judge the NX.

Though I doubt it'll sway from my stance on Nintendo (they stopped being good since the Wii became a thing, rehashing their most popular IPs, and butcher those that were left in the fridge for 10 years).

 

[WeepingAngels]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC games won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

 

[Yoshi178]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

 

[Naldan]

The Wii did. Should I vote "No", then?

 

[Yoshi178]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

actually alot of them are. and lol. did anyone ACTUALLY even give a shit about those wiiware games anyway?

 

[WeepingAngels]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

actually alot of them are. and lol. did anyone ACTUALLY even give a shit about those wiiware games anyway?

Alot of them are not too. Would it surprise you to know that we still don't have Mario Kart 64 on the Wii U? There is one WiiWare game I like, My Life as a King.

 

[Nazulu]

It's funny seeing people wax nostalgically about things like the GameCube and N64 when these exact complaints were used about those consoles years back.

Are you saying 'other' people used to complain about the Gamecube and N64 back when they were released "years back"? Or, are you saying the 'same' people now complained about the previous consoles years back like they're complaining about the Wii U now?

I dunno, if was ~15 years ago. I'd just gotten my driver's license around the GameCube launch.

Ok, so is there a hypocrisy or not? People wax nostalgically for the classic consoles for different reasons you know.

And also, what type of complaints? Were they minor or big complaints?

Same ones. Less powerful, odd format, wonky controls, no third party support, just rehashes of old games, too kiddie, not selling enough, yada yada yada.

Yeah, I've seen those too (except the wonky controls). It really shows that Nintendo don't seem to be improving a whole lot. Hell, many (including me) say they got a lot worse.

 

[Yoshi178]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

actually alot of them are. and lol. did anyone ACTUALLY even give a shit about those wiiware games anyway?

Alot of them are not too. Would it surprise you to know that we still don't have Mario Kart 64 on the Wii U? There is one WiiWare game I like, My Life as a King.

we have Mario 64 on our N64's, Wii's, DS's and even 3DS's now because of the DS's backwards compatibility.

god forbid we don't have it on our Wii U's as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WeepingAngels]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

actually alot of them are. and lol. did anyone ACTUALLY even give a shit about those wiiware games anyway?

Alot of them are not too. Would it surprise you to know that we still don't have Mario Kart 64 on the Wii U? There is one WiiWare game I like, My Life as a King.

we have Mario 64 on our N64's, Wii's, DS's and even 3DS's now because of the DS's backwards compatibility.

god forbid we don't have it on our Wii U's as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mario Kart 64 and I think you are missing the point. Why should I get an NX if there is no guarantee of backward compatibility for the games Nintendo never bothered to bring forward to the Wii U. You need to understand, the VC was the best part of the Wii and the Wii U for me.

 

[Yoshi178]

Nintendo Network and My Nintendo have no bearing on whether the NX will run Wii software. My precedent is that they have never gone back more than one generation for consoles. Further, when they do BC, they do it completely. Not playing Wii discs but playing Wii digital content won't happen, it's all or nothing.

yes they do. they show that Nintendo is clearly making steps forward in unifying all of their systems including all the mobile phone market stuff now.

the Wii U eshop is also 100 x better than the Wii shop channel was.

for what actual reason would they decide to make the NX eshop worse than the Wii U eshop?

I don't think you are understanding.

Wii VC games that were not ported to the Wii U eShop require Wii Mode to work. Wii mode plays all Wii software, including discs. Either NX will have a Wii mode or it won't. If it doesn't then those old Wii VC won't run.

Having a unified account doesn't change whether NX has a Wii mode or not just like having my games tied to my PSN account doesn't mean they work on the PS4.

ok then. well either upgrade all the digital software you only have in wii mode to the wii u eshop for that heavily discounted price on Wii U instead of buying it outright again on the NX eshop.

problem solved.

Uh no, you see most of the Wii VC games are simply not available on the Wii U eShop. Nintendo never bothered porting most of them. Also, I don't think they ported any of the WiiWare titles.

actually alot of them are. and lol. did anyone ACTUALLY even give a shit about those wiiware games anyway?

Alot of them are not too. Would it surprise you to know that we still don't have Mario Kart 64 on the Wii U? There is one WiiWare game I like, My Life as a King.

we have Mario 64 on our N64's, Wii's, DS's and even 3DS's now because of the DS's backwards compatibility.

god forbid we don't have it on our Wii U's as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mario Kart 64 and I think you are missing the point. Why should I get an NX if there is no guarantee of backward compatibility for the games Nintendo never bothered to bring forward to the Wii U. You need to understand, the VC was the best part of the Wii and the Wii U for me.

even if they don't make all the old game backwards compatible on the NX system you could always just, oh i don't know, how about you just play your bloody older system that actually has those games on it instead?...

 

[hermes]

Little did I know that the Wii U would be their least supported console of recent years (except for the Virtual Boy). Almost no games from their franchises, and many of those that are feel more like remakes of previous ones: New Super Mario is nowhere near the level of polish other Mario games had, new Star Fox is basically a remake of 64, there are no new Zelda or Metroid, and Nintendo decided to kill it even before there were one.

That tends to happen when a single company is left to basically support their own console and Nintendo can only do so much before having to move on.

Yes, as a person savvy enough on the industry, I get your point. As a consumer, though, I can't say the console justifies itself.
Of course, as a person savvy enough on the industry, one could also wonder why Nintendo is left in that position of being the only company that supports their own console ever since the 64 days, and the answer does not necessarily bodes confidence in the NX.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

It's funny seeing people wax nostalgically about things like the GameCube and N64 when these exact complaints were used about those consoles years back.

Are you saying 'other' people used to complain about the Gamecube and N64 back when they were released "years back"? Or, are you saying the 'same' people now complained about the previous consoles years back like they're complaining about the Wii U now?

I dunno, if was ~15 years ago. I'd just gotten my driver's license around the GameCube launch.

Ok, so is there a hypocrisy or not? People wax nostalgically for the classic consoles for different reasons you know.

I never said there was? I was just finding it funny to see games and consoles go from "0/10, too cartoony/not hardcore enough/only for casuals/doooooooooooomed" to "hey, remember what was great? That thing, that was a classic, genre-defining thing".

Old men have to find amusement where they can.

 

[Callate]

Ah, no, but I'm hardly going to shell out for the new console when I only purchased the Wii-U maybe a year and a half ago. There's certainly a lot more I'd want to know about the NX before I'd even consider making a purchase, but that would be true of any console. Chief among my concerns is whether Nintendo will do a better job of shoring up third-party support this time (walking the tightrope between the Wii's deluge of shovelware and the Wii-U's barrenness), and I can't even begin to know that from a spec sheet or a concept drawing.

For what it's worth, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the Wii-U, aside perhaps from the fact that it's central gimmick hasn't been used very well, being superfluous in some cases and crowbarred in where it didn't belong in others. The potential for a "second screen" for, say, multiplayer gaming ought to be fairly obvious (I suggested at one time it would actually be a very good fit for the game Fable Legends once seemed like it would be); it just hasn't been used that way. Hopefully whatever the NX brings to the table will be better utilized. But again, I can't possibly know that right now.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Nope. Just because the WiiU was a disappointment to me doesn't mean the NX can't knock it out of the park. Plus, I'm a Die-Hard 3D Mario fan, so as long as there is another 3D Mario coming out (and there will be), I'm gonna keep buying Nintendo consoles. I'm just worried that Nintendo doesn't know what it's doing right now, what with the lack of NX news at E3 and no concrete date for evidence of the thing.

 

[Fox12]

theres only 2 mario platformers on Wii U and 2 on 3DS...

But sure. Nintendos 4 Zelda Remakes TOTALLY outweigh all of those on the RemasterStation 4.

Sort of, since most of the games you listed were by completely different studios. All the Zelda games were by Nintendo. It doesn't matter, though. We weren't arguing about who had more hd re-releases.

maybe YOU weren't.

that was my whole criticism. it's a RemasterStation 4.

the majority of the PS4 libray is Remasters, Multiplats you can get on Xbone and PC as well, or even both!!!

You're arguing for Nintendo like your life depends on it, and you don't even know how many Mario plat formers there are?

As for point 2, wrong I'm afraid. And rather silly. If it has more hd collections, it's only because it actually has third party support from both major developers and indie creators. Maybe you're unaware of this, but a lack of third party support on the Wii U is actually a bad thing. If Sony has more Hd collections, it's because it has six different developers re-releasing content, and because it has a larger overall library. Nintendo pushed out four Zelda's alone, and that's not counting the staggering number of re-releases on the Wii. Okami, RE4, every single Metroid Prime... You're seriously going to call the kettle black? Furthermore, it boasts far more new IP's then Nintendo's paltry 1.

I mean, I like Nintendo, but it needs to pull its head out of the sand.