Poll: Have you Given Up On Half-Life 2: Episode Three (Half-Life 3)?

[The Virgo]

I imagine that if they ever do release HL3 some many many years down the road (It's not coming out any time in the next few years), all the fans will be in up in arms about it not living up to their wildly insanely madly inflated bloated absurd expectations.

Our expectations wouldn't be so bloated if they hadn't kept up this insane silence all these years. They kind of asked for it.

I hope it's not another DNF fiasco

Whoa Whoa, let's not even go there, this is Valve were talking about, i don't think they'd allow a shit game to be released under their name.

After the Portal 2 store, I have doubts about their competency.

As for those going on about Source being an old engine, what's wrong with that? Who cares about graphics anymore? they've come as far as they can, what's the point in improving it any further. Plus i prefer Valve using the Source engine as it feels like a game made by Valve. and i'll be very interested in seeing what they do with it when DoTA 2 comes out. and TF2 looks sweet, even though its been 4 years it still looks awesome..

The problem with Source is not the graphics. Let me show you what I mean. (Please note that I will not at any time be talking about "graphics" throughout my upcoming monologue, just engine technology.)

It's an undeniable fact that technology has surpassed the Source engine for ages now. Take a look at the Unreal 3 engine. Don't pay attention to the graphics, but JUST what the engine can do itself. Natural and unscripted destructible environments (something even Portal 2 can't accomplish). Cloth physics, which only now is Source getting in DotA2, about six or seven years after Chaos Theory had it (hell, cloth physics are probably older than that!). The AI in the Half-Life games also isn't very spectacular (it's tightly scripted, is all) and the outdoor environments aren't that great. I mean, compare the forests from Episode Two to a forest made in the UDK or with CryEngine 3. I mean, look at some of the stuff that the guys at Nvidia are working on! YouTube it. Soon, we'll have dynamic water and realistic hair and VALVe will still be trying to make more fluid animations for characters.

I could go on all night about how Source is below all of the other engines, but I need to get to bed now if I want to get any kind of decent sleep. If you reply to me, I'll reply back when I wake up.

Good night, Escapists!

 

[MorsePacific]

I never was anticipating it, so I still haven't been disappointed. I own Half-Life 2 and Episode 1, but I never played the latter and only beat the former by making myself invincible in the console. Half-Life has never struck me as a series that was particularly amazing.

 

[The Virgo]

I gave up a while ago. When Portal 2 came out, I had a small glimmer of hope. Throw in something that ties the ending of Portal 2 into Half-Life (Episode) 3. Instead, nothing. So yeah, I'm done. This is no longer entitlement speaking, as so many love to point out. This is someone who is simply tired, who stood by waiting patiently for even just a bit of news, and has constantly been disappointed.
It's like waiting in line for a really awesome ride, only to constantly watch people cut in front of you. And then to watch it break down, and then watch the repair crew stop and walk off, saying they'll be back later. Eventually, you give up and go do something else.

Agreed. I'm almost to the point where I wouldn't even buy it. Also, I like your analogy, except that I think it's more akin to being in a waiting room waiting for to see the doctor so your sickness can be cured, but everyone else gets called to see the doctor before you, even though you were the first person there. You never see this doctor, only hear some of the nurses talking about it and sort of saying "Yes, he'll be with you in a moment", even though your appointment was six hours ago.

:'-(

 

[Twilight_guy]

I don't know what to expect. I think they might just pull Half Life 3 though. They have somebody working on it but that's all I know. (or maybe Gabe just got the team together for a meeting but then he got real hunger and ate the team and now nobody is working on it (*Half life 2 episode 3 was just pushed back a week for that joke*))

 

[Matt225distraction]

The Source Engine may be old, but it's in no way bad looking. Graphics fidelity has a long way to go to finally make Source Engine games look as bad as N64 games look now. So that doesn't matter to me at all.

What I'm assuming the delay's for is not only to have finished L4D2 and Portal 2, but also to actually make Episode 3 GOOD. We all should know that the top reason games turn out bad is that the designers weren't given enough time to iron out glaring issues. It hopefully isn't going to end up like DNF, molding itself off of recent advances and tastes in the FPS genre and several different directors(Then pleasing no-one), it should keep up it's linear fun-shooty-physics-puzzle-solvey style, with hopefully some new weapons, characters, mechanics, etc.

I am dissapointed about the way the episodic Half-Life 2 turned out. Hopefully Valve has learned their lesson. It's annoyed many, including me, how long it takes to produce these games with the title 'Episode' in them. And then they had to end it on a cliffhanger.

(ABRUPT SWITCH TO DIRECTLY SPEAKING TO VALVE- if anyone who works there looks at these forums)
And dancing around the Ep.3 issue isn't doing us fans any good. As much as we love you Valve, show us something new. Something to make sure you haven't been screwing around and making a few sequels for the past years. What you're doing right now isn't pleasing anyone. I know that you want to innovate, and I know you are working on Ep.3, but do us all a favor and just finish it.

Or at least show off some new concept art.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

I'm sure it'll get here eventually, but it's not like I'm holding my breath. To paraphrase a wise man, "I'll play it when I play it!"

 

[NotAPie]

I didn't give up on it, no of course not. I gave up on expecting screenshots, information, announcements, stuff like that.

 

[Cazza]

I know Valve will get around to releasing it someday they would be mad not to.

 

[42]

I imagine that if they ever do release HL3 some many many years down the road (It's not coming out any time in the next few years), all the fans will be in up in arms about it not living up to their wildly insanely madly inflated bloated absurd expectations.

Our expectations wouldn't be so bloated if they hadn't kept up this insane silence all these years. They kind of asked for it.

I hope it's not another DNF fiasco

Whoa Whoa, let's not even go there, this is Valve were talking about, i don't think they'd allow a shit game to be released under their name.

After the Portal 2 store, I have doubts about their competency.

As for those going on about Source being an old engine, what's wrong with that? Who cares about graphics anymore? they've come as far as they can, what's the point in improving it any further. Plus i prefer Valve using the Source engine as it feels like a game made by Valve. and i'll be very interested in seeing what they do with it when DoTA 2 comes out. and TF2 looks sweet, even though its been 4 years it still looks awesome..

The problem with Source is not the graphics. Let me show you what I mean. (Please note that I will not at any time be talking about "graphics" throughout my upcoming monologue, just engine technology.)

It's an undeniable fact that technology has surpassed the Source engine for ages now. Take a look at the Unreal 3 engine. Don't pay attention to the graphics, but JUST what the engine can do itself. Natural and unscripted destructible environments (something even Portal 2 can't accomplish). Cloth physics, which only now is Source getting in DotA2, about six or seven years after Chaos Theory had it (hell, cloth physics are probably older than that!). The AI in the Half-Life games also isn't very spectacular (it's tightly scripted, is all) and the outdoor environments aren't that great. I mean, compare the forests from Episode Two to a forest made in the UDK or with CryEngine 3. I mean, look at some of the stuff that the guys at Nvidia are working on! YouTube it. Soon, we'll have dynamic water and realistic hair and VALVe will still be trying to make more fluid animations for characters.

I could go on all night about how Source is below all of the other engines, but I need to get to bed now if I want to get any kind of decent sleep. If you reply to me, I'll reply back when I wake up.

Good night, Escapists!

alright, I see the point about destructive environments and everything, but Portal 2 wasn't a game that needed destructive environments as it wasn't that kind of game. sure it had environments that were destroyed and repairing, but it's not that kind of First person game, its a puzzle game. but i'm really not too fussed at a games realism nor it's graphical capabilities or whatever engine it's on. while those are what makes the game work, it doesn't make it fun. and i've had more fun with source games, then others toting their engines. but that's what i play games for. Fun.

as for the Portal 2 Store, does it really matter? did it really affect anyone? i mean you didn't have to buy it as it wasn't going to change the gameplay. i personally liked the store, as i thought it was a good measure for when they introduce the challenge features and other bits when they release the highly anticipated Portal 2 DLC #1. It doesn't mean Valve are incompetent, the store is there for those who want it, and it's not harming anyone.

 

[mysecondlife]

gave up as soon as i realized my computer will be outdated and I have moved on to consoles. I would upgrade my PC if I knew when Diablo3 would come out though.

 

[Sixcess]

Prior to the release of Portal 2 I'd have said maybe, but given that that game went out of its way not to have any meaningful link to the Half Life series I'd say yes.

Even captcha agrees...

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

At this point, Episode III is a wildcard, I think. I doubt if even VALVe knows it will be released. But I know I don't want Half-Life to be over. Episode II ended with what is, as far as I know, the only good cliffhanger in video game history. You've just got to follow up on that. Maybe they want it to be spectacular, but they just don't have anything that good in mind yet. Who the fuck knows?

 

[Dr. Paine]

Nope.

I'm just moving on with life, playing other games. When it comes out, it comes out. No use getting too worked up over it.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

There is a lot of talk about the Source engine, so I just want to add this: I love the Source engine. I know it's old. I know a new engine is long overdue. But damn, it's just so fluid and perfect. It just feels right in a way that's hard to describe. Do you guys feel the same way? 'Cuz I don't know how to articulate it. Am I wrong about this? Everything I play in the Source engine just clicks for me. It has a quick fluidity that I just don't get from other games.

 

[banksy122]

Nope.

I'm just moving on with life, playing other games. When it comes out, it comes out. No use getting too worked up over it.

This. Stop being so butthurt guys. The game will come out when it comes out, probably with some new technology as well. Good games take time. Other then DNF(Which was horrible for a great number of reasons), every game that has taken 5+ years to be made has being amazing. Patience is something that has disappeared nowadays.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Nope.

I'm just moving on with life, playing other games. When it comes out, it comes out. No use getting too worked up over it.

This. Stop being so butthurt guys. The game will come out when it comes out, probably with some new technology as well. Good games take time. Other then DNF(Which was horrible for a great number of reasons), every game that has taken 5+ years to be made has being amazing. Patience is something that has disappeared nowadays.

We've waited almost four years and there is still not one word about the next episodic release to a game that was an episode that ended on a cliffhanger. If you're still waiting patiently and without complaint, your patience is mother fucking zen-like times Jesus. It would be easier to beat a polar bear at arm wrestling than to wait patiently for Episode III at this point. I'm not exactly sweating over this, but how long are Half-Life fans supposed to wait? At what point does impatience become righteous anger? Ten years? Twenty?

 

[RuralGamer]

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Wow, that stuff is awesome, who was it who built that?

OT: Meh, I didn't really like the episodes, so if it doesn't come out, its no great loss.