Pick up a 5 year old as he's about to fire and throw it at him, then whilst he's stunned run and pick up a heavy object and...
Run away.
Run away.
... bullets would out run you by a long shotirishstormtrooper said:It depends on how close he is. If he's about two feet away, I'd try to disarm him, but if he's more than twenty feet away, I'd run like hell.
Too ambiguous. Are we in the street or indoors somewhere? Am I alone? Is there cover? Is there anything laying around? How far from me is he?Kimberland said:Its a beautiful day in where-ever-the-hell-you-live-ville you are at the "insert local shopping centre here" its very busy. But there is evil aloof, a man pulls a gun, and turns in you your direction. You cant tell if he will shoot or not. What do you do?
-Orgasmatron- said:Try To Disarm Him 22.9% (117)
LMAO at the internet warriors who voted for that one.
I think I'd turn in the opposite direction and run if it came down to it.
Statement of opinion, unnecessary.hoopyfrood said:If you are right in front of someone who is pointing a gun at you, and your only options are fighting or running, running is the inferior option.
It isn't a reflex for him, YOU are the one who needs to use reflex. A reflex is not a premeditated action, his action is withdraw gun and shoot, Which even a dunce can do instantly.Uh... disarms are kind of meant for situations where the gun is already pointing at you. Techniques designed for situations where someone else is being threatened with a gun are few and far between. Do you know anything about this subject?
Look at this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM6Bpz6-dio] and see how quickly the instructor does the technique (the only flaw is that he telegraphs it a little by starting to move forward before executing the disarm, and for some reason he doesn't move off line like he says you should, but the point here is how quickly he moves). Here's [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V6LWQZjYRk] a different technique, also executed quickly.
Even if you're pointing a gun at someone and have your finger on the trigger, there's still a delay before you can process what's happening and pull the trigger. People do not have instantaneous reflexes.
Because you have to rely on reflexes, which are only possible if he doesn't pause, and not possible for the common man. You are making it out as if you have damn awesome reflexes and dam good hand-eye, which might be very true, but it doesn't apply to everyone, especially not when you consider this scenario is tailored for common people. I can twist any scenario I want to have the best outcome, but that misses the point of what scenarios like this are for.Explain to me why it wouldn't work. Does his gun shoot magic bullets that chase after you?
I was saying people with the non-normal capability to disarm the guy. Not specifically special forces guys. I don't know why exactly I would restrict disarms to purely military forces. I thought it was obvious I was using that as a blanket term for people with good hand-to-hand skill.Fun fact: militaries don't, as a rule, actually spend tons of time on hand-to-hand combat training. They have assault rifles, pistols, hand grenades, helicopters and UAVs for fighting, plus all their teammates. Military H2H also isn't drastically different from what you can find in the civilian world, or even no different at all. The best fighters aren't special forces soldiers, but professional fighters.
Yes I did, that's obvious, protip - It was a demonstration of my thought process, not a science course.How would you know that it's 90%? You pulled that number from thin air.
YOU said that, nowhere does it state he is directly in front of you within striking range.We are not talking about a situation where you have to charge him, we are talking about a situation where you are right in front of him. Disarms do not work if you are not within H2H range, and since we are talking about disarms it stands to reason that you are close to him.
And how exactly does that have anything to do with what I was saying?Except they won't do so, because it's been drilled into their heads that violence is bad mmkay, and that you shouldn't concern yourself with anything except your own safety.
ROFL at the internet tough guy who thinks your average person is going to have time to think all that through when having a gun pointed at them. And I didn't say running is the best option, I said that's what I would do in the heat of the moment.Caliostro said:Too ambiguous. Are we in the street or indoors somewhere? Am I alone? Is there cover? Is there anything laying around? How far from me is he?
For instances, if he's close to me, I will disarm him, and if possible, kill him. If he's not, I'm not gonna lunge at an armed men and try to run across a street while dodging bullets... I'm not suicidal...
If there are objects nearby I will use them. If he's close, a stapler is a good makeshift stun-gun. If he's far it's a good blunt object to break someone's head with.
If he's too far, try to manipulate him to either put the gun down, or shoot himself (I'm good at it). Last case scenario, I would take a bullet for the person I love, I wouldn't for a random person. Hell, I'd probably use them as a shield.
I think that we would be able to make calls like that pretty quickly, it's called adrenaline.-Orgasmatron- said:ROFL at the internet tough guy who thinks your average person is going to have time to think all that through when having a gun pointed at them. And I didn't say running is the best option, I said that's what I would do in the heat of the moment.Caliostro said:Too ambiguous. Are we in the street or indoors somewhere? Am I alone? Is there cover? Is there anything laying around? How far from me is he?
For instances, if he's close to me, I will disarm him, and if possible, kill him. If he's not, I'm not gonna lunge at an armed men and try to run across a street while dodging bullets... I'm not suicidal...
If there are objects nearby I will use them. If he's close, a stapler is a good makeshift stun-gun. If he's far it's a good blunt object to break someone's head with.
If he's too far, try to manipulate him to either put the gun down, or shoot himself (I'm good at it). Last case scenario, I would take a bullet for the person I love, I wouldn't for a random person. Hell, I'd probably use them as a shield.
Try again buddy.
I love it when people do that and fail. I also love it when two people start fighting over the internet during a hypothetical situation. It really shows how smart people are. End sarcasm.My point is that you're unnecessarily risking your life.