Poll: HE'S GOT A GUN!!!

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akmarksman

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hoopyfrood said:
akmarksman said:
Not in Alaska..I already have a gun and I can carry it openly or concealed without a permit...but I wouldn't use the gun.
My pocketknife is so much more fun.
Just walk up,use one hand to push the gun up towards the ceiling and withdraw and stab with the other hand...training comes in handy. ;)
You can't "walk up," because he is going to shoot you. Even if you catch him by suprise, there's still a chance that something will go wrong. That's ok if a knife is the only thing you have, but when you have a gun you'd be insane not to use it.
Training. Lots of good training.
Not many can stare down a person pointing a gun at you,but there are a few of us who can.
I usually leave the gun at home anyways.
Im not Todd Jarrett with a pistol,and Im more comfortable using my pocketknife in a life or death situation.
It's rule #1 to get the gun away from the guy,and if you can't..then get close so he cant use his,but you can use your weapon.Don't do what you see in the movies which is usually fight over it,just make it quick and decisive. There may be no honor in a fair fight to kick someone in the balls,but if you want to stop them..then by all means go for it.
 

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CenturionRyan said:
Try and talk to him to calm him down or reach an agreement. Like "I'm just gonna reach for my wallet now. Just put the gun down, and I'll slide it over." Then, if it works, run like hell.
and get shot in the back?


CenturionRyan said:
However, if there are more people there, I'd do my best to try and wait until he looks at someone else and then shank him in the neck.
Surprise is always a good option and it's something you have and they don't..so use it to your advantage and resolve the situation quickly...lethal or not.
 

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I vote other...

Each situation needs it's own response, after all a rash action would be bad in the wrong situation and the lack of fast response could be devastation in another. Have to know more about the situation before deciding the best way to disarm it.
 

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Pikachu, I CHOOSE YOU! Pikachu would probably get shot.. but what the hell, seeing pikachu getting killed is on my list of things to do before I die anyway
 

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hoopyfrood said:
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Oh, just the fact that I haven't for an instant argued "that such a thing can't be done." I've argued that it all depends on the someone though, and not as much you.
Which is the same as saying that it doesn't work. There are many martials arts techniques that only work when your partner is cooperating, but fail if you are up against a live opponent. So they don't actually work, and can't actually be done.

But this is not the case with disarming. It can be done and it has been done. I'm sorry if this knowledge damages your psyche.
If you would stop substituting your own arguments for mine, your wit might shine a little less dimly. I have not said that "the partner" needs to cooperate; I have said that the one pointing a gun at you must "let you" disarm them in the sense that they must, through ineptitude or hesitation, fail to prevent you from doing it by shooting you. In other words, you can say "oh, I'll just disarm them" all you want, but your success still crucially depends on the potential shooter's response to your action. You are right to think that the outcome is not certain, and I have not disagreed with that (though you give the impression of someone so assured of his talents that he could not fathom someone beating him.) For all your 'technique', there are very easy ways to prevent what you're doing and they all involve merely recognizing what's going on and responding to it by killing you immediately. Forcing a gunman into that position without good reason is not smart; this example doesn't say anything about his intentions, so to immediately respond with such a risky strategy is to invite death. "Sorry if this knowledge damages your psyche." (Jackass.)
 

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pulling a gun on me is a great way to meet a quick death....pulling a gun on my loved ones is a great way to meet a quick death...and in the state I live in, I wouldnt get in trouble due to it being "justifiable homicide"
 

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Using the other persons or loved ones as cover as i breeze out the room while they act like cover.
 

Seanchaidh

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hoopyfrood said:
Seanchaidh said:
If you would stop substituting your own arguments for mine, your wit might shine a little less dimly. I have not said that "the partner" needs to cooperate; I have said that the one pointing a gun at you must "let you" disarm them in the sense that they must, through ineptitude or hesitation, fail to prevent you from doing it by shooting you. In other words, you can say "oh, I'll just disarm them" all you want, but your success still crucially depends on the potential shooter's response to your action.
Congratulations, you have discovered something stupidly obvious and irrelevant. If you try to punch someone, you will only succeed if your opponent fails to defend himself. If you try to get past a defender in basketball, you will only succeed if he fails to stop you. However, the greater your skill is compared to your opponent, the more likely you are to succeed at whatever you are attempting against him.

So what exactly is your point?
My point is that you're unnecessarily risking your life. You simply don't have the proper respect for the advantage a gunman has over you. You're right that it is 'stupidly obvious', but you are not right that it is irrelevant. The other side of the coin is "Oh, I'll just die."

For all your 'technique', there are very easy ways to prevent what you're doing and they all involve merely recognizing what's going on and responding to it by killing you immediately.
As I have explained over, over, over, over, over and over again, people do not have instantaneous reflexes. Maybe video games made you think they do, but I assure you that it isn't true. You might as well say "pssh, all you have to do to prevent someone from hitting you is to move your head a little." It sounds like you have never practised a martial art or sport.
He has a gun. He's pointing it at you. He doesn't need instantaneous reflexes.

"pssh, all you have to do to prevent someone from hitting you is to move your head a little."
Sounds a bit like how you think you'll disarm someone.

Forcing a gunman into that position without good reason is not smart; this example doesn't say anything about his intentions, so to immediately respond with such a risky strategy is to invite death.
I'd rather take my life into my own hands than wait and see what happens. If he's pulling a gun in a shopping centre it's pretty unlikely he's about to mug me. More likely he's about to make my skull go Jackson Pollock all over the floor, and do the same to anyone else who's around.
But you aren't taking your life into your own hands. You're taking your life into his hands. If he has a gun on you and hasn't killed you yet, it's questionable what his motives are. Firearms are very, very often used to achieve objectives that don't involve killing people. So it is prudent to get an idea of what is going on before doing anything that might force the issue.

"Sorry if this knowledge damages your psyche." (Jackass.)
You are employing the psychological defense mechanism I outlined earlier. You are fighting against facts because to do otherwise would bruise your ego.
I don't know about any psychological defense mechanisms you might be using, but you are certainly speaking out of your ass.
 

Eldritch Warlord

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Drop to the ground, preferably while distracting the gunman's attention by throwing and/or activating something, then run for the nearest cover while staying low. I'd probably drag people beside me to the ground too.
 

quiet_samurai

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It depends how close I am to him, and how agitated he seems. I honestly couldn't answer until it happened.
 

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It depends on how close he is. If he's about two feet away, I'd try to disarm him, but if he's more than twenty feet away, I'd run like hell.
 

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crudus said:
I taunt him. When he shoots me and unloads his clip, I catch all the bullets in my teeth. They I spit poison on his from my eyes as he slowly is digested by it.

Seriously: I would duck, run for cover, run around to get near him while searching for a sharp thing, and then stab/slice him to get his gun.
Which you use to take his place with

OT: a gun is no use against a person with a knife as is you run at him the adrenalin pumps and a bullet wouldnt affect you (Unless it shatters a bone or instant kills. I always have a knife on me, and id attack him with it
 

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Greyfox105 said:
Take the bullet and strangle the life out of him.
with Bear Hands!
The moment I get bear hands I'd strangle the life out of people even if they threatened me with something like a potato peeler. Or a pillow. Fuck it, BEAR HANDS.