Poll: HE'S GOT A GUN!!!
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Moving forward whilst emitting a battle cry of sorts; it's something you learn in Japanese sword arts. You may think it's silly, but it can do wonders for distracting and otherwise intimidating him. After that, charge him, disarming him and throw him to the ground.
If you are not up for that, jump-dodging could work. If he seems like a reasonable enough fellow, no reason not to try to talk him down.
Oh yeah, I don't have a loved one, but shielding my family might not work, seeing as how the only thing between the bullets and them would be my soft, supple flesh.
If you are not up for that, jump-dodging could work. If he seems like a reasonable enough fellow, no reason not to try to talk him down.
Oh yeah, I don't have a loved one, but shielding my family might not work, seeing as how the only thing between the bullets and them would be my soft, supple flesh.
As people have pointed out, it's hard to know what you would really do in such a situation. I think that i would try to escape if at al possible: try to duck behind some cover or run away. If someone i cared about was with me i would try to take them too, and help them escape. If he is pointing the gun directly at me though (an generally if he is concentrated on me), i would do as he says.
I also have doubts that all the people that said would try to disarm him, or run at him, or other such things would really do that. But maybe i'm wrong. I wouldn't do that, as i don't think it would work, and it would just make things worse.
But i am kinda amazed at the number of people here that own guns. I am not going to state my opinion on that whole topic, though, because i think the atmosphere here is already a bit too heated.
Also, as far as hoopyfrood is concerned, i smell a troll.
I also have doubts that all the people that said would try to disarm him, or run at him, or other such things would really do that. But maybe i'm wrong. I wouldn't do that, as i don't think it would work, and it would just make things worse.
But i am kinda amazed at the number of people here that own guns. I am not going to state my opinion on that whole topic, though, because i think the atmosphere here is already a bit too heated.
Also, as far as hoopyfrood is concerned, i smell a troll.
Personally, I don't think many people who say they would shield their loved ones would react the same way when it actually happened. Not trying to be insulting, just tellin' it like it very well might be, and probably is, but not definitely. For me, depends how far away he is. If he wwas really close, I might, I dunno, crouch down fast and tackle him.
What is this "try" to disarm him option? You pull a gun on me, you better pull the trigger fast or you will end up with something broken, like your neck.
No, I'm using hard logic. I would bash in anyones face that tried to kill me, but not in a case where doing so would cause me more harm than good. I'm not averse to violence, only averse to stupidity.hoopyfrood said:
If you are so close.. I already established, he has you, you are dead. You can't perform some disarm manouevure as if you have the drop on him. Because he already has the gun out.hoopyfrood said:
Are.. you serious? You think rotating your body and leaning away while trying to disarm a guy with a gun is going to work?hoopyfrood said:
Disarming someone is intended for when you actually have a chance, not when he has the drop on you.
Look at my first response.. Unless you are in the superman or special forces clauses, you won't be able to do this.
But 90% chance he will suceed, you have to play the odds, where as all you are talking about is a minute chance as your motiviation - I.E. You aren't doing the logical thing, you are trying to do the unlikely.hoopyfrood said:
What makes you think you have time to disarm? I already told you why, if the guy pulls a gun and you charge him, you have a much larger chance of being killed. If the guy pulls a gun and you run, you might be able to avoid a critical hit, if his reactions are slow, than charging him means by the time he pulls the trigger you are close, and easier to hit, running away means you are a smaller target, less easy to hit and you may have made it to safety. (A lot of people are not good shots with pistols), If his reactions are amazing, well than damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No, you assumed that, I assumed the logical thing which happens in most cases. That is the gunman is standing away from everybody.
I didn't, I said "if".
Nope, a smart person defends themselves the smart way. (No wai!)
It's about defending yourself when you have a chance. I was actually saying that seriously, I'm trying to say that if you really want to help people, someone who gets shot because he decides to attack the gunman is still valiant, no doubt, but he is no longer useful once he is dead. If you want to help people, doing so when you actually have a shot is more useful.
No, it's an example of how logic is better. Obviously if everyone in the school rushed the gunmen they might get him before he kills too many, but that's a syncronised effort not feasible without prior planning. If people rushed the gunmen one by one, well a lot of people would die.
If everyone waited for an opportunity to disarm or attack the guy, while staying out of their way as much as possible, then the school shooting would have the best chance.
The reason they get so many is because.. it's a school shooting.. you train an AK-47 on a couple hundred teenagers, and people get killed. That's harsh reality.
The most common way for people to stop school shootings is for people to attack a gunman when they have a chance.
Basically the crux here is that the gunman has you in his sights, he only needs to pull the trigger, disarming the guy now would be a bad idea. At least wait until he sneezes, or gets some blood in his eye. If the scenario was that the gunman had his back turned, than by all means, bludgen out his brains with a pickaxe. If the scenario said you had a gun, then by all means shoot him. But it doesn't say that, and so if my viewpoints on this scenario fit in with a demographic you seem to have a bugbear about, so be it.
Use a technique called adrenaline dumping, get his attention and then talk to him about something entirely random as if he weren't holding a gun. His brain, blinded by adrenaline, will scrabble to understand the scenario by seizing the one given to him most recently, which was me talking to him in a calm and civil manner.
His brain, thinking it wil not need the adrenaline, flushes it all out at once, causing temporary confusion, this leaves the subject susceptible to hypnotic suggestion, but would also easily allow time to simply disarm him.
His brain, thinking it wil not need the adrenaline, flushes it all out at once, causing temporary confusion, this leaves the subject susceptible to hypnotic suggestion, but would also easily allow time to simply disarm him.
Call him a "pussy" and let him shoot.
Chances are I would survive 1 bullet. Or at least I would go down as a giant badass
Chances are I would survive 1 bullet. Or at least I would go down as a giant badass
If I was armed, I would wait until the opportunity to draw my weapon presented itself and put some lead into him.
If I was unarmed, I would wait until the opportunity arose to try and disarm him (depending on my observations of the attacker and the situation of course). I would not try to disarm a 6'8" 210-lb man with a .45. That would not be smart. My decision would be based on judgement of the situation at hand.
If one is ever in this situation, there are a few key things to remember.
1. Remain calm
2. Speak slowly and softly if spoken to - this gives the impression of compliance and puts the gunman at ease, or at least, gives them the impression that they have power over you.
3. NEVER put your hands up (if you can avoid it).
4. NEVER look a gunman in the eye. It is often seen as a threat and can actually escalate the situation.
If there is a gun in your face, and the attacker asks you to put your hands up, that is the opportunity to attempt a disarm because the gunman is expecting you to move your hands. Plus, your hands will move in close proximity to the weapon. However, I would not recommend it unless you have no other option.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE
Note: You can always get another wallet, but you cannot get another life. Personally, I would never try to disarm anyone unless they got still do not go away after I have given all I can give.
If I was unarmed, I would wait until the opportunity arose to try and disarm him (depending on my observations of the attacker and the situation of course). I would not try to disarm a 6'8" 210-lb man with a .45. That would not be smart. My decision would be based on judgement of the situation at hand.
If one is ever in this situation, there are a few key things to remember.
1. Remain calm
2. Speak slowly and softly if spoken to - this gives the impression of compliance and puts the gunman at ease, or at least, gives them the impression that they have power over you.
3. NEVER put your hands up (if you can avoid it).
4. NEVER look a gunman in the eye. It is often seen as a threat and can actually escalate the situation.
If there is a gun in your face, and the attacker asks you to put your hands up, that is the opportunity to attempt a disarm because the gunman is expecting you to move your hands. Plus, your hands will move in close proximity to the weapon. However, I would not recommend it unless you have no other option.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE
Note: You can always get another wallet, but you cannot get another life. Personally, I would never try to disarm anyone unless they got still do not go away after I have given all I can give.
