Poll: Hip Hop
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Maybe it's because I'm a musician, composer, and a producer, but I have absolutely no interest in lyrics. If I want compelling text, I'd read a book. I listen to music for the music.SageRuffin said:
My hypothetical children could listen to whatever they like as long as they keep the noise levels down. I quite like a few of the older artists/albums that came out early-mid 90's, but I rarely listen to them nowadays.
What exactly is the difference between rap and hip hop?Rahheemme said:
Inside the community, it's always been known that rap is merely a vocal technique while hip hop is a style of music, but not the only style, where raps are often found.
That's a very interesting argument I've noticed a lot of people tend to make. I played the alto saxophone once upon a time (high school, only 3 years), so I can understand this to a point. While it is true that most rap doesn't use "real" instruments, many people seem to forget - not saying you're one of them - that a great many rap songs can use "real" instruments. I remember my high school days being able replicate many then-popular songs on my saxophone.Contextualizer said:
Something pretty ironic that many people either fail or don't care to realize is that there are many songs, especially recently, that utilize the mighty guitar to provide some of the melody behind a song, or some other string instrument. Reunited by the Wu-Tang Clan took advantage of the absolute insanity only capable of a violin. Still D.R.E. by Dr. Dre created his melody with a ukulele. D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune) by the immortal Jay-Z featured both a guitar and a soprano saxophone for his songs.
Not saying you're argument is invalid (mostly because you were actually respectable with your rebuttal, I appreciate that
); just saying that rap beats aren't as simple nor as one-dimensional as the average person believes.What's wrong with "fake" instruments? In the eyes of classical composers in the 20th century, all instruments are real.SageRuffin said:Maybe it's because I'm a musician, composer, and a producer, but I have absolutely no interest in lyrics. If I want compelling text, I'd read a book. I listen to music for the music.
That's a very interesting argument I've noticed a lot of people tend to make. I played the alto saxophone once upon a time (high school, only 3 years), so I can understand this to a point. While it is true that most rap doesn't use "real" instruments, many people seem to forget - not saying you're one of them - that a great many rap songs can use "real" instruments. I remember my high school days being able replicate many then-popular songs on my saxophone.
Something pretty ironic that many people either fail or don't care to realize is that there are many songs, especially recently, that utilize the mighty guitar to provide some of the melody behind a song, or some other string instrument. Reunited by the Wu-Tang Clan took advantage of the absolute insanity only capable of a violin. Still D.R.E. by Dr. Dre created his melody with a ukulele. D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune) by the immortal Jay-Z featured both a guitar and a soprano saxophone for his songs.
Not saying you're argument is invalid (mostly because you were actually respectable with your rebuttal, I appreciate that
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Sure, if you only listen to the shit on the radio. But I was under the assumption that we all knew that radio music was terrible regardless of genre.Furburt said:
Well I voted yes cause you're not gonna stop your kids from listening to anything they set their minds to. However I think the problem that most people have with rap is the stuff you see on TV/Radio because it has little redeeming value. It's often hateful to women and glorifies values kids should not be learning as "cool" or the way to be, like being so obsessed with money and property.
The stuff you posted is good in my book.
The stuff you posted is good in my book.
I listen to everything, so I guess if I had a kid, I let him/her listen to all genres, and based on how much they enjoyed certain songs, play more of a specific genre(s).
Only good Hip Hop I've heard is Hilltop Hoods but I have heard almost nothing else unless it was forced upon me by a radio.
Not usually my taste but I love that and most of their songs, none of it is about violence (promoting anyway, Stopping All Stations [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXUtu4a1hE] is about an old guy who gets mugged for nothing and how it's pointless (along with other horrible situations))
I haven't heard much Hip Hop but don't hate any type of music, there will always be good exceptions in a genre, and I'm certainly not going to tell my children they aren't allowed to listen to a type of music... and not only because that would just make them do it.
People who think that hip hop is just about money/cars/women etc. are ignorant
listen to atmosphere, immortal technique, aesop rock, mf doom, the roots
hip hop is by no means my favorite type of music but i wish people wouldn't just judge it by whats popular/on the radio
listen to atmosphere, immortal technique, aesop rock, mf doom, the roots
hip hop is by no means my favorite type of music but i wish people wouldn't just judge it by whats popular/on the radio
As long as they don't subject me to it or start behaving like 50 Cent, I wouldn't see a problem with them listening to it.
I hate hip-hop. But yes, I would let them listen to whatever they want. Music is a huge part of your identity while you are growing up and I would never deny my child that part of themselves. Besides, they are still going to listen to it, no matter what you say.