Hell no they won't, they're gonna be fed on a healthy balance of rock n roll and classical! Billy Fury followed up by a dose of Chopin!Amberella said:My and Toms future kids willl not be listening to rap or hip hop. They will listen to real music, not crap. =]
I just treat hip hop like it's nu metal and rap like it's hardcore metal. The former is good most of the time and has a bit of depth to it and the latter is shallow most of the time with a few exceptions. I'm not sure how to determine the differences in any other way.Contextualizer said:What exactly is the difference between rap and hip hop?Rahheemme said:I always thought that rap was mindless and shallow, but I appreciate hip hop. I've heard some of Mike Shonoda's stuff and it's great. I'd definitely be up for more stuff like that.
Inside the community, it's always been known that rap is merely a vocal technique while hip hop is a style of music, but not the only style, where raps are often found.
Oh, I misread your post. Sorry about that.Contextualizer said:What's wrong with "fake" instruments? In the eyes of classical composers in the 20th century, all instruments are real.SageRuffin said:Maybe it's because I'm a musician, composer, and a producer, but I have absolutely no interest in lyrics. If I want compelling text, I'd read a book. I listen to music for the music.
That's a very interesting argument I've noticed a lot of people tend to make. I played the alto saxophone once upon a time (high school, only 3 years), so I can understand this to a point. While it is true that most rap doesn't use "real" instruments, many people seem to forget - not saying you're one of them - that a great many rap songs can use "real" instruments. I remember my high school days being able replicate many then-popular songs on my saxophone.
Something pretty ironic that many people either fail or don't care to realize is that there are many songs, especially recently, that utilize the mighty guitar to provide some of the melody behind a song, or some other string instrument. Reunited by the Wu-Tang Clan took advantage of the absolute insanity only capable of a violin. Still D.R.E. by Dr. Dre created his melody with a ukulele. D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune) by the immortal Jay-Z featured both a guitar and a soprano saxophone for his songs.
Not saying you're argument is invalid (mostly because you were actually respectable with your rebuttal, I appreciate that); just saying that rap beats aren't as simple nor as one-dimensional as the average person believes.
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Most epic first post ever.Freestyle_fanatic said:It's obvious to me that MOST of you on this forum know nothing about Hip-Hop, Rap, or the differences between the 2. Hip-hop is about creativity....the ability to tell a story or deliver a message, be it positive or negative, while entertaining & moving the crowd is just ONE part of hip-hop. Any moron can string words together that rhyme...just look at Fred Durst. No one here would judge Punk or Rock simply by what they hear from Limp Biskit or Pennywise, so why do it with Hip-hop? Use that 4 lbs. of grey matter lodged inside your skull and actually RESEARCH hip-hop, instead of judging it by the standards of a few talentless "rappers". 99% of the crap you hear on the radio is perpetuated by record company fatcats that are only interested in bottom-line economics rather than content & creativity. Please, those of you on this forum that know about real hip-hop, educate the ignorant masses on here that claim "I hate rap/hip-hop", yet own every album from Eminem.
P.S. - Mike Shinoda was an MC long before he got with Linkin Park.
I agree entirely, and I hate to see people dismiss Hip Hop as a whole because what they hear on the TV is shit. Everything on TV is shit, it's all made for money. I wouldn't, however, say all Rock is shit though because I overheard a Nickelback track.Freestyle_fanatic said:It's obvious to me that MOST of you on this forum know nothing about Hip-Hop, Rap, or the differences between the 2. Hip-hop is about creativity....the ability to tell a story or deliver a message, be it positive or negative, while entertaining & moving the crowd is just ONE part of hip-hop. Any moron can string words together that rhyme...just look at Fred Durst. No one here would judge Punk or Rock simply by what they hear from Limp Biskit or Pennywise, so why do it with Hip-hop? Use that 4 lbs. of grey matter lodged inside your skull and actually RESEARCH hip-hop, instead of judging it by the standards of a few talentless "rappers". 99% of the crap you hear on the radio is perpetuated by record company fatcats that are only interested in bottom-line economics rather than content & creativity. Please, those of you on this forum that know about real hip-hop, educate the ignorant masses on here that claim "I hate rap/hip-hop", yet own every album from Eminem.
P.S. - Mike Shinoda was an MC long before he got with Linkin Park.