Poll: Homosexuality

[Verlander]

Honestly not sure how people can be against it... how does the harmless act that other people do, affect you in any way?

Not to be a twat.. But.. shove that up your ass christians..

Ahh, there goes another bar of my health >.<

So any time a British person gets humiliated, I can go "take that British!"? Or any time a man does something stupid, it reflects upon all men? Sorry dude, but in saying that, you are exactly the same as he is.

Totally..

I know I'm being a generalising ****, but most of the christians I've met on the point of homosexuality are total twats.. I'm actually getting to the stage as to where I don't know any that are indifferent.. Most of you guys DO seem to be mindless zombies

Someone earlier in this thread said "I disasgree with homosexuality because God say so" or something similar..

Oh yeah. I'm not a Christian, though, I just always think these threads are breeding grounds of intolerance, and not just for the group that are the subject matter. Although I realise that I'm fuelling it a bit.

it IS kinda funny too though :S

But I think christians are ridiculous, whoever said "only follow the bible when it suits them" nailed it..

Yeah, although I'd say that only applies to the major organised Christian religions... Christian anarchists have the right idea.

 

[senorfatso]

Arbitrary thread is arbitrary.

Are we gonna have a 'Are you racist?' thread next?

 

[Kevlar Eater]

I'm neither for nor against homosexuality. Whatever gets you hard/wet is none of my concern, as long as the other party is willing.

 

[AnkaraTheFallen]

I fully support it. Every gay/bi person I know has said they feel like they dont have a choice. I think that to belive that that they do have a choice is extremley idiotic. Ive only met one person irl like this. Marriage is another thing, i can see how you would argue that its a abrahmic god ritual, but they should at least be able to get legally married through a court. There are economic benifits to that.

In most western countries gay couples can get 'married' but most churches refuse to do it or allow it to be called marriage... so the government 'allow' us to have 'civil partnerships' which is the same as marriage but it's to appease the church or something.

And if you mean not having a choice about being gay, then most people would say they don't, just as straight people can't choose to be gay. I'd probably choose to be straight if I could, since it would make my home life far far easier, but I can't I'm gay and that's it, I don't find men attractive at all and never will.
Sorry If I've misunderstood your meaning, and seem to just be ranting.

 

[Kakujin]

Tough one, this. On the one hand, you could say that I am a supporter of it, because people obviously have the right to any consensual sex they may wish to have. On the other hand, I couldn't care less about what your sexual preference is, which I guess makes me indifferent.

 

[AwesomeSuperMelon]

I support homosexuality wholeheartedly. But I'm also ashamed to admit that I am rather homophobic. It is something I'm trying to get past though, with the help of my gay friends (surprised how many of my friends did turn out gay in the end XD)I think it's just a matter of hanging out around them really. Homosexuals are just as normal as anyone else.

Cave Johnson... we're done here

 

[Sun Flash]

this joke has probably already been used, but what the hell;

"I'm in support of the search bar"

HURR DURR

But since you were kind enough to ask, I'll answer. I don't care. I don't necessarily support, but at the same time, It's not like I support heterosexuality. They're just things that people are.

Although I do support the right to have the freedom to make up your own mind and act upon it willingly and accordingly.

Woo! Go Team Apathy!

 

[geier]

I support it.
As long as everybody involved agrees to it, everybody should be allowed to f##k everybody.

 

[Sudenak]

Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod?

Not that I disagree with what you're saying (nor am I religious), but that phrase isn't attributable to the bible. You know, just FYI.

Exodus 21:20-21 "When a man strikes his slave, male or female, and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money."

 

[Sharalon]

I personally don't give a crap about it, as far as Darwinism goes it's a terrible thing but I'm not going out of my way to get rid of it, I have better things to do. Like have children

What are you talking about? The last thing we need is more people in the world. I'd say we have enough problems providing the entire world with food.

Btw, the fact that homosexuals can't have children is the only thing I'm kinda jealous of. Kids are just the worst kind of people.

 

[posthuman]

I actually wrote a paper on how Christianity does not (or, at least, can be interpreted to not) condemn homosexuality as a sin.

I also went through the biology/genetics/evolutionary stuff; homosexuality is influenced by genetic, biological (prenatal), and environmental factors. There are also a couple evolutionary explanations relating to it--it turns out that a gene that encourages homosexuality in men actually helps women with fertility.

 

[solidstatemind]

Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod?

Not that I disagree with what you're saying (nor am I religious), but that phrase isn't attributable to the bible. You know, just FYI.

OT: The issue of sexuality- or more specifically, the acceptance of its variances- confuses me.

This isn't something you really can support or oppose: we're not talking about a sports team here, or some sort of philosophy or ideology. We're talking about a human trait that some have argued is as unchangeable as skin color.

Fact: Homosexual people exist.
Fact: You're not going to be able to 'make' them go away.
Fact: Aside from what they find sexually arousing, they are no different than everyone else.
Fact: if you can't handle even the existence of someone with different sexual preferences than yours, you have much larger issues (and probably plenty of other irrational prejudices).

Bottom line: if you have an issue with homosexuality, the issue is yours, not the homosexuals.

So... why are we even discussing this again?

The phrase isn't put that way but it is in one of the books connected with the bible (Sorry not majorly religious any more so don't know which one) but it does give details on how to beat your slaves... loosely saying that as long as they can walk within 3 days then it is fine and god doesn't care.
And in another book it says that god actively encourages us to take slaves... the full quote has been posted else were in the thread.

Well, I googled it, and I'll have to admit, there are some bible versions where 'inch of his life' could be extrapolated from it.

I'll concede that I was mistaken.

 

[senorfatso]

Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod?

Not that I disagree with what you're saying (nor am I religious), but that phrase isn't attributable to the bible. You know, just FYI.

''If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.'' Exodus 21:20-21

You know, just FYI
Edit: I see this has already been dealt with, sorry for filling up your quote box

 

[Ekonk]

It's a bit strange to say that I 'support' homosexuality, but I'll assume that's just a bit poor phrasing on your part.

Because I do, in fact 'support' it.

 

[SammiYin]

I personally don't give a crap about it, as far as Darwinism goes it's a terrible thing but I'm not going out of my way to get rid of it, I have better things to do. Like have children

What are you talking about? The last thing we need is more people in the world. I'd say we have enough problems providing the entire world with food.

Btw, the fact that homosexuals can't have children is the only thing I'm kinda jealous of. Kids are just the worst kind of people.

I suppose it's debatable the benefits of humanity dying out because everyone took the 'gay fashion'.
And yes we do have problems with population, so why add to those problems by getting up in arms for or against something ethical instead of something practical.
Gay people supporting gay people I can understand. Straighties taking it upon themselves I don't.

 

[solidstatemind]

Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod?

Not that I disagree with what you're saying (nor am I religious), but that phrase isn't attributable to the bible. You know, just FYI.

''If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.'' Exodus 21:20-21

You know, just FYI

I admitted that I was was wrong and corrected the mistake.

And you don't have to be rude about it, particularly since I wasn't speaking to you. "You know, just FYI..." ? Any time you throw words back in someone's face, I think it's safe to say you're being a bit... condescending.

EDIT: Lightened up my tone a bit. Don't want to start any flame wars...

 

[AnkaraTheFallen]

Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod?

Not that I disagree with what you're saying (nor am I religious), but that phrase isn't attributable to the bible. You know, just FYI.

OT: The issue of sexuality- or more specifically, the acceptance of its variances- confuses me.

This isn't something you really can support or oppose: we're not talking about a sports team here, or some sort of philosophy or ideology. We're talking about a human trait that some have argued is as unchangeable as skin color.

Fact: Homosexual people exist.
Fact: You're not going to be able to 'make' them go away.
Fact: Aside from what they find sexually arousing, they are no different than everyone else.
Fact: if you can't handle even the existence of someone with different sexual preferences than yours, you have much larger issues (and probably plenty of other irrational prejudices).

Bottom line: if you have an issue with homosexuality, the issue is yours, not the homosexuals.

So... why are we even discussing this again?

The phrase isn't put that way but it is in one of the books connected with the bible (Sorry not majorly religious any more so don't know which one) but it does give details on how to beat your slaves... loosely saying that as long as they can walk within 3 days then it is fine and god doesn't care.
And in another book it says that god actively encourages us to take slaves... the full quote has been posted else were in the thread.

Well, I googled it, and I'll have to admit, there are some bible versions where 'inch of his life' could be extrapolated from it.

I'll concede that I was mistaken.

Honestly I don't know the full quotes myself, I just remember the general ideas from jokes and arguments I had with friends shortly after I gave up my faith... as a former catholic I will admit there are a lot of things in the bible and other books that people conventionally ignore as it doesn't fit their views of the religion.
But I'm glad to see you did your own research and are open to others arguments