Poll: Homosexuality

[similar.squirrel]

I am very slightly bi-curious, and support LGBT rights wholeheartedly. I can see no feasible arguments against it.

I find it interesting that you are, and I quote, "an immoral bigot" if you DON'T support homosexuality. Yet, its perfectly ok to slam Christians, and slam people if they personally do not agree with it. People slamming my religion and calling me an immoral bigot offends me, and its wrong. If I WAS one, that would be something different, but I am most certainly not.

People tend to 'slam' Christianity when Christianity 'slams' the myriad behaviours it considers immoral, oftentimes by attempting to outlaw it or through harassment. If gay people, on a large scale, made a habit of rape or telling heterosexuals that they were destined for an eternity of torture, we would have a right to 'slam' them too.

And the Christian doctrine states that not supporting the faith is immoral. Not sure about bigoted, so I concede that point.

 

[Rottweiler]

The way I see it, I don't support homosexuality. I don't oppose homosexuality.

It's an activity I don't take part in, but don't see any harm in, so therefore it falls under my catch-all acronym: N.O.M.D.B.

None Of My Damned Business.

When or what two consenting (or more) adults do together which doesn't hurt other people is a topic no one else is qualified to judge. No one granted the authority to say "hey! you two can't do X because...uh...I said so!"

 

[Nimcha]

Yeah, this thread is going to go well.

I guess I was wrong, it's not even a flamewar yet!

 

[Togs]

Depends entirely on the context. There are a million different degrees of PDA.


Well observed.

Self mutilation implies that something is intrinsic. What you're thinking of as masculinity is demonstrably not intrinsic. It is as as false and affected as gay male camp, or a drag performance.

It's just as relevant to argue that you self mutilate by turning your back on your 'fabulousity' or whatever you want to call it. This is not to say I would, only that holding people to completely arbitrary standards of behaviour is kind of strange.

Your being exceptionally bloody minded there, public make out session has an obvious connotation towards gratuitousness.

And arbitrary standards of behaviour are what society consists of- were told how to act and speak and dress, ignoring them is wantonly confrontational and iconoclastic- whilst this is a generalisation "the cause" has always had its proponents wher their sexualities on their sleeves, only to act surprised when they get whacked down hard- make a big deal of it and people are gonna put their heels in.

And whilst classically defined masculinity is about as mutable as an excited AIDs virus certain tenets hold true across cultures, "mincing queens" as I so bluntly put it fly in the face of these tenets, which causes revulsion at the most instinctive level due to simple biological conditioning.

 

[Serge A. Storms]

Burns my ass. The thought of people making love in a way that isn't already deemed socially appropriate in all circles absolutely kills me because it's fruit of the forbidden tree. I've been locked in with my old lady for 35 years now, and she barely looks at me over the dinner table. You think I wouldn't want to have passionate sex with a tight young man? I want it so bad I'd kill for it, but that pleasure's been denied to me in this life, and I'll be damned if I have to see other people experience happiness in their lives.

That's basically how I view anyone that actually cares about gay guys having sex.

 

[FolkLikePanda]

As long as they don't bother me and go on about how gay they are etc and don't try anything on me I'm fine with them.

 

[feauxx]

I am against homosexuality. Part of the reason is because I am christian and in the Bible it clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord.(in Leviticus)
I by no means hate gay people at all I see no reason for it at all, and God tells to only hate the sin but love the sinner
It also is definately is not gentic because I know a pair identical twins, one is gay and the other is not. If it was genetic they would BOTH be gay . Homosexuality is a choice, you chose to be gay.

No I didn't.
And you can't speak for me.

 

[Johanthemonster666]

I find it interesting that you are, and I quote, "an immoral bigot" if you DONT support homosexuality. Yet, its perfectly ok to slam christians, and slam people if they personally do not agree with it. People slamming my religion and calling me an immoral bigot offends me, and its wrong. If I WAS one, that would be something different, but I am most certainly not.

Well then maybe you should understanding why thinking lesbians and gay are beneath you is a bad idea... after all it always comes back to you in some form. THEN, you see why people get upset when ignorant statements are made about their sexual orientation and why they need to go hide it away from people who find it intolerable. If you're so offended (in a society that is largely Protestant Christian)then perhaps you should heed your own creeds words "Don't judge people, lest you be judged" and "do unto others, as you would have them do unto you".

 

[viranimus]

Yeah, this thread is going to go well.

I guess I was wrong, it's not even a flamewar yet!

Well that is understandable. The notion of this thread is somewhat pointless. The only "opinions" that will be expressed are that of " I accept" or "I am indifferent" And if you textualize a notion of support of being against it, your words will be construed as ignorant, hate filled and intolerant, and hell, even likely modded. So unless the point of this thread is for people to polish their inflated sense of enlightenment, progressiveness, and modernism, then there really is no point because anyone who knows anything about the nature of this forum is going to know that the population wont listen to anything BUT tolerance and acceptance.

Key to any good "flamewar" is you need more than just one person to fan the flames. One person fighting against 20-50 others in unison is just pointless.

 

[Dexiro]

All fags are going to hell!

That's where all the best gay bars are ;D

 

[Johanthemonster666]

I am very slightly bi-curious, and support LGBT rights wholeheartedly. I can see no feasible arguments against it.

I find it interesting that you are, and I quote, "an immoral bigot" if you DON'T support homosexuality. Yet, its perfectly ok to slam Christians, and slam people if they personally do not agree with it. People slamming my religion and calling me an immoral bigot offends me, and its wrong. If I WAS one, that would be something different, but I am most certainly not.

People tend to 'slam' Christianity when Christianity 'slams' the myriad behaviours it considers immoral, oftentimes by attempting to outlaw it or through harassment. If gay people, on a large scale, made a habit of rape or telling heterosexuals that they were destined for an eternity of torture, we would have a right to 'slam' them too.

And the Christian doctrine states that not supporting the faith is immoral. Not sure about bigoted, so I concede that point.

Well said and a good point.

 

[JochemDude]

I support it a full 100% I really don't care wether they're showing it neither if I can kiss my girlfriend in public, everyone must be free to express it. Oke I don't like the kind of gays that are like ' haaaaaaaaaaaaii I'm Tom and I'm gaaayyy' but then I don't hate them for being gay, but for giving gays a bad name.

 

[LuckyClover95]

Supporrrrrrrt
Because why not? Ain't hurting anybody. And I'm Christian, if that helps your results or whatever

 

[Terminal Blue]

Your being exceptionally bloody minded there, public make out session has an obvious connotation towards gratuitousness.

Which doesn't make them inappropriate in particular contexts.

Unless you just time travelled from the 18th century, it should be fairly obvious that varying degrees of public display around heterosexuality are commonplace in our society.

Not alleging anything here, but it's also amazingly convenient how much the thought of two guys kissing suddenly turns people into puritans.

And whilst classically defined masculinity is about as mutable as an excited AIDs virus certain tenets hold true across cultures, "mincing queens" as I so bluntly put it fly in the face of these tenets, which causes revulsion at the most instinctive level due to simple biological conditioning.

I feel pretty entitled to say that this is wrong.

Describe to me the tenets which hold true across cultures. Define how revulsion of particular traits is biologically conditioned. Because I can guarantee that other people will have said different things. Essential definitions of masculinity fail because the choice of essence is arbitrary. Anything you could come out here will tell me far more about you than it ever will about masculinity as a whole.

And are you basically saying that because much of society is taught to react aggressively towards effeminate behaviour in men that that in itself is self-justifying. Because I don't see the logic. The fact that such things are 'taught' implies the possibility that they might not be taught, surely?

I also don't really appreciate the reference to AIDS. I'm sure you're just fag baiting to get a reaction, but you aren't helping your case by doing so.

 

[Kingpopadopalus]

I support gay people, I would march in a parade for them if it brought about gay marriage rights.

 

[Kurokami]

I support it, but thats kind of a given since I'm bisexual with my pendulum swinging more towards the homosexual side of things.

Love the metaphor. Out of pure curiosity and little else, are there Bi people who don't lean more towards their own sex? I only ask because I don't think I know any, unless the ones who do lean to the opposite sex simply consider themselves straight or something.

Anyhow...

The question is simple. Don't forget to add WHY you feel the way you do.

For my own vote, I'm a strong supporter of homosexuality, though I'm by no means gay myself. I firmly believe that, as long as it's not hurting anyone else, people should be able to live their lives however they damn well please. This includes being able to love and marry whomever they please.

So, escapists, How do YOU feel? And remember, tell us why you feel that way.

EDIT: Just so people will stop spouting it off, I realize that this is rather poorly phrased. I think most of you can glean my meaning though, without needing to point out that I could have worded this differently.

I support Homosexuality, personally I find homosexual relationships sort of cute and for the most part the only real reason people argue against it is, I assume, because they find it either a disgusting or awkward concept, I sure did as well, but since it wasn't a reason to stop people from enjoying their lives I still supported it.

I still have a huge issue with intimacy in general, so two people kissing is awkward for me no matter the sex, but seeing two guys hugging/holding hands/being relationshipy doesn't bother me in the least.

(PS: I tend to mean males when considering homosexuality on account of being a guy myself. Lesbians never really bothered me as with most males)

 

[Zipa]

I support it in the sense that while not myself homosexual I believe every single person has the right to express themselves freely. Plus I really do not like people who follow a religious belief (not naming names here) that promotes intolerance and is what I believe to be the biggest thing holding mankind back.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I support it.

Why shouldnt you? Its not like its radically different from regular marriage, and its not like its hurting anyone.

i really dont do see why homosexuals shouldnt get all the rights heterosexuals do.

besides, I have a few homosexual friends.

 

[No_Remainders]

They can do whatever they want.

Shrug.