Poll: Homosexuality

[Morbira]

I don't give a shit.
I never have and I never will.
You are never wrong to chose the way you which to conduct your own life.
Everyone is entitled to their own happiness.
This does not make you any more special than the hundreds of other people I encounter daily.
Do not pretend, or worse, believe that it does.
But most importantly, live for yourself, not someone's agenda.

 

[Helscreama]

I'm not really fussed. I work with and have friends that are gay. Doesn't really bother me but I don't go marching with them when they have parades and such so I guess I'm indifferent.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

I voted for support. And I do mean support it as an institution, not just the people. I don't just want gay people to feel better, I wish there were more of them in general and that they would cease trying to mainstream quite so much. I recruit.

I think it's largely pointless to argue against the people who have a moral objection. Certainly I have nothing new to contribute to that discussion.

The thing that continually baffles me is the shameful way supporters frame their arguments. Arguing with the detractors trying to convince them it's genetic strongly implies that homosexuality would be a bad thing, but it's okay because those disgusting gay people can't help it. I will never understand how people do not see how stupid and offensive this line of argumentation is.

 

[Crazy_Man_42]

I'm fine with any group of people as long as they aren't jerks to me.

It's terrible what people do to homosexuals like protest against them and such.

I find it sad that most of the time I hear religious people doing it like the westboro church and such. Pretty much a religion that says every man is made in the image of God and that you should love your neighbor in the Bible and yet they just ignore it and keep on calling themselves Christians.

 

[TheAmokz]

I'm indifferent towards homosexual men but i strongly support lesbians.

So you wouldn't mind me stealing your girlfriend from you? :9

Definitely no.

 

[Tdc2182]

I wish I was gay.

Make my jokes have much more bite.

 

[Labyrinth]

How the hell is this even a debate that's still going? I mean seriously. So much of our social structure already disadvantages and invalidates non-hetersexual ideas without this bullshit. Take virginity for example. Most definitions are pretty heterosexually exclusive. Are lesbians some kind of extra-virgins? Does anal sex count as virginity-puncturing? For which partner?

Priviledge? What could that possibly be?

Let's ask the heterosexuals a few questions shall we? These were developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977 and nicked from fmnst.tumblr.com

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?

3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

5. Isn't it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?

6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?

7. If you?ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn?t prefer that?

8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?

9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?

10. Your heterosexuality doesn?t offend me as long as you don?t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?

11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?

12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?

13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can?t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?

14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?

15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?

16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?

19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Fine. You can be gay. Just no where near me.
That is my take.

I agree. Though I feel this way about any. PDA, Gay or Straight

I also feel that if I am not allowed to be offended or disturbed by what is said and done by anyone, they have no right to be offended of disturbed by what I say. I?ve been told that ?being offended is a choice?, only to be told not five minutes later that what I am saying is offensive. You cannot have it both ways.

Also, I have seen a gay pride parade. Really guys, that?s the message you wanna send to the world?

Disclaimer: No, I do not hate GLBT people for being GLBT. I hate EVERYONE.

 

[GraveeKing]

I support it, but thats kind of a given since I'm bisexual with my pendulum swinging more towards the homosexual side of things.

This amazes me that this is the first comment, and the fact I'd have put the exact same thing, and saves me a lot of typing - so thank you muchly

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Also, because I am a nice person.

How the hell is this even a debate that's still going? I mean seriously. So much of our social structure already disadvantages and invalidates non-hetersexual ideas without this bullshit. Take virginity for example. Most definitions are pretty heterosexually exclusive. Are lesbians some kind of extra-virgins? Does anal sex count as virginity-puncturing? For which partner?

Priviledge? What could that possibly be?

Let's ask the heterosexuals a few questions shall we? These were developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977 and nicked from fmnst.tumblr.com

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?

3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

5. Isn't it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?

6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?

7. If you?ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn?t prefer that?

8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?

9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?

10. Your heterosexuality doesn?t offend me as long as you don?t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?

11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?

12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?

13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can?t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?

14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?

15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?

16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?

19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?

1. Having a heteronormal family life.
2. When I turned 18 and realized that I wasn?t asexual like I thought I was (This was only for about a month). Before that, I was sure I was heterosexual.
3. No
4. Also no
5. No again.
6. Yet again, no
7. I haven?t stuck my hand in a blender, but I know that wouldn?t turn out well for me.
8. Because we make up the majority of the population
9. Anyone who knows me knows that I am heterosexual. That, and I was thought to be gay in highschool, so I had to affirm that I was really straight. And my parrents have been very supportive of me.
10. I don?t. That?s generalizing, and if we are allowed to do that, I think all [Remainder censored]
11. Yes. Yes I would
12. I feel fine with that. In my mind, anyone who is attracted to children is not normal or heterosexual. So your logic is once again faulty.
13. Very well. Tell that to the people in highschool who forced me to reiterate my heterosexuality
14. Because I don?t like men. Your logic is faulty, because we have the possibility for other sexual desires/actions. Such desires do not make them right.
15. How is it unhealthy?
16. I don?t, but perhaps because it is awesome (or so I am told). Really, do you need me to tell you that? You scientist types must be lonely.
17. Because society has given us the message ?if it feels right, do it?. I blame moral relativism.
18. Eventually, people would just have to stop having kids. Simple as that.
19. Well, then you don?t know many heterosexuals. Again, you have generalized my sexual preference multiple times. Sarcastic as this may be, this only re-affirms my views on the topic.

 

[moopig66]

I don't support it? Thats like supporting people who enjoy eating chocolate... its a preference not a political ideal... also im gay

 

[idodo35]

im in favor of homosexuality for the simple reason that i belive that people should have the right to love anyone female or male regardless of theyr own gender...

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

What I DO take issue with, is the way, some homosexuals somehow think being gay gives them the right force a particular homosexual lifestyle down one's throat. Yes, I'm talking about "being camp". By all means, be romantically involved with someone of the same gender, by all means protest and try to make it more socially acceptable, but for the love of all that is holy, don't go around with your fucking lady-bags and talk in a terribly false and girly voice.

If you do that you may as well just get a fucking sex-change, which I also fully support. I just don't like femininity to the extreme in men. It find it horribly off-putting. Actually wait, I don't mind that either, just do it away from me.

I believe the "behind closed doors" line works well here.

I personally think the whole camp thing is fabulous! (couldn't resist)

As far as I know, having a 'girly voice' is uncontrollable. Theres a guy I work with, and as far as I can tell his campness (and he is VERY camp) isn't forced or put on. It's just the way he is.

In the same way, there was a teacher at my school who had a camp voice but was undeniably straight, as in he had a wife and children.

I would have thought that many gay men would not live a camp lifestyle if they had the choice. It instantly tells everyone nearby that they are gay, and can lead to some nasty situations. Coming back to the guy I work with, a customer started shouting at him for speaking the way he does, and it routinely get him into these sorts of situations. I'm sure if he could, he wouldn't act the way he does.

It's not so much that...It's people that play on it and are overly dramatic about their sexuality. I know two guys that are gay, but they're just like you or me. They live together, but if you ever saw them in town, they'd look like they were just two friends, and when asked if they're a couple, they just say "yeah".

Basically "I'm gay, deal with it" attitude.

I have no problem with someone being homosexual.
I have no problem with them protesting their homosexuality to make people more aware.
I also have no problem with them making homosexual jokes toward me, or even advances.

What I DO take issue with, is the way, some homosexuals somehow think being gay gives them the right force a particular homosexual lifestyle down one's throat. Yes, I'm talking about "being camp". By all means, be romantically involved with someone of the same gender, by all means protest and try to make it more socially acceptable, but for the love of all that is holy, don't go around with your fucking lady-bags and talk in a terribly false and girly voice.

If you do that you may as well just get a fucking sex-change, which I also fully support. I just don't like femininity to the extreme in men. It find it horribly off-putting. Actually wait, I don't mind that either, just do it away from me.

I believe the "behind closed doors" line works well here.

Question: have you actually met someone belonging to the aforementioned group?

I'm betting you haven't.

Captcha: maturity natinvi

Why yes, yes I have. To assume I haven't is to assume things about my character, which is a terrible way to spout inaccuracies, having not met each other and all. The best we can do is to understand each other.

 

[BlueGlowstick]

I have three friends who are gay, but I'm not offended by them. Gays are awesome people, once you get to know them.

I am a Christian, but obviously I have different beliefs than others.

EDIT- I just had to reagree for the forum terms?? and my "I AGREE" was remembered...

 

[Korolev]

I would not say that I am a "supporter" - I have no problems with homosexuals. I have no problems with anyone that isn't violent or has made my life difficult. For instance, I have no problems with black people or white people or ice-cream salespersons. That doesn't mean I support black people or white people or the vendors of delicious ice-cream. It means that I treat them in a neutral fashion.

Frankly, I don't care if someone is gay. I do not care one jot. It means NOTHING to me. Who they sleep with or why they sleep with those people, doesn't matter to me, as long as it's consensual and legal. If adult homosexuals sleep with each other, why should I care? Who am I to say that it's good or bad? WHY does it matter? It doesn't matter to me! It doesn't affect me or any innocent people!

My attitude towards homosexuality is one of complete indifference. My attitude towards heterosexuality is also one of complete indifference. I simply don't care much about the sex lives of other people, provided they aren't raping anyone. It's such a minor detail - there's far, far, far, far, far more to a person than their sexual orientation. I place a much bigger emphasis on a person's political and philosophical leanings than on their orientation. They could sleep with sofas for all I care! They could have sexual desire for the colour blue, for all I care! What they like and who they like and how they express their sexual desires, as long as it's legal, doesn't, and shouldn't, concern me one damn bit.

Do I support RIGHTS for homosexuals? Yes. Why not? Why not give them rights to marry or to share property in a legally binding way? How does that affect you? How does that affect anyone other than the people getting married? Because I care so little about sexual orientation, I think that giving or denying rights based on orientation is stupid. Give everyone the same rights, regardless of orientation.

Really, it's a minor issue. So someone's gay. So what? Why do you care? Why should you care? Is it really something to get mad over? Aren't their BETTER things to get fussed up about? The world's such a big place, and sexuality is such a tiny, tiny, tiny insignificant part of it. We are wasting so much damn time debating useless, stupid, obvious stuff - we are up to our necks in problems, and yet millions of people still think that it's really a big deal if a guy sleeps with another guy or a gal sleeps with another gal. Give it a rest and GROW UP - IT. DOESN'T. MATTER. IT'S. NOT. IMPORTANT. TO ANYONE.

Give gays the same rights as anyone else, and then let's all focus on STUFF THAT MATTERS. You know, like finding more resources, improving technology, solving the Israeli/Palestinian issue and cracking down on crime and disease. You know, important stuff. If we could channel the amount of effort idiots put into keeping the gays down, into something useful, like, I don't know, CURING DISEASES, then I suspect we'd have a good amount more vaccines than we do.

 

[poiuppx]

I support homosexuality, heterosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality... honestly, if you can find someone else in this crazy, messed-up, mixed-up, unfair, often capriciously cruel world with whom you can, even for a short time, find joy with, then points to you. Same sex, different sex, doesn't matter worth a damn. Life is just plain better when you're in it with someone else by your side whom you can love and who loves you in return.

 

[iLikeHippos]

Gay people are fine as shit. I don't give a crap normally, but I find it hilarious how they must continuously pester the church for getting married.

Because, Christianity is like "We don't want to marry you guys, just leave us alone! Get your own religion" and the homosexuals goes "Nuh-uh, you've GOT to let us marry!"

Like some people knocking on ones door, going "You've GOT to let us in." You'll just reply, slightly terrified "I don't want to let you in, get away! Get your own damn house!"
Seriously, they don't want you in. Marry in another religion.

 

[Lukeje]

Gay people are fine as shit. I don't give a crap normally, but I find it hilarious how they must continuously pester the church for getting married.

Because, Christianity is like "We don't want to marry you guys, just leave us alone! Get your own religion" and the homosexuals goes "Nuh-uh, you've GOT to let us marry!"

Like some people knocking on ones door, going "You've GOT to let us in." You'll just reply, slightly terrified "I don't want to let you in, get away! Get your own damn house!"
Seriously, they don't want you in. Marry in another religion.

I think that you've misunderstood massively. It's not the Christian rights of marriage that they want, it's the legal rights.