Poll: How about a ''Vs. America' shooter?
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You can in Company of Heroes Opposing FrontsBloodstain said:
You have to retreat and scorch as much earth as I can, if I remember probably
Good luck getting the media to quiet down long enough in order to make that game. They got pissy because of the name of a character model, they will most certainly be angry over playing as Talibans whose main goal is to kill American troops.
And I wouldn't mind a game where you do fight America, I would just think the media won't like it if they're based off of our current or recent enemies.
And I wouldn't mind a game where you do fight America, I would just think the media won't like it if they're based off of our current or recent enemies.
No they wouldn't.babinro said:
Sure there will be protests and groups fighting agaist a type of game like that but preventing release of game AKA banning the sale of a game is Tottally Fucking illegal.
Games are protected by the First Amarment (atleast they do there in Eagleland) so any kind of banning an intelectual product that is the medium of expression of a bunch of people is just as bad as burning book or killing people.
7 Days is Fellusah wasnt banned or denied released, it was simply protested upon by some ignorant people and Konami Chicked out as the Publisher of the game.Remember whenever some ignorant hack goes on TV and says that games should be banned or regulated he is breaking one of the most imporant laws or Armaments or what ever it is in America.
Dont let those douchbags do something like that.If games wish to be treated with the same Respect as film or movies or books or plays or anything publishers and developers need to stop wussing out whenever they try to express an idea.
So you basically want an FPS with the enemies palette-swapped so you can imagine that you're killing real people from a real place. That's a little worrying, there, champ.
But then again, the average German soldier was probably not a whole lot more evil than the average allied soldier.RatRace123 said:
nothing against the idea, but i would never play it. i love my country too much to feel comfortable with that sort of game.
Because in contemporary games, they are used as a stand-in. Targets, nothing more, from an unspecified, vaguely west-Asia-ish place, associated with an unspecified, vaguely Al Qaeda/post-Soviet-ish organization. I never pop in COD4 and say "can't wait to kill some camel jockeys" or "time to tear Boris a new asshole", I just want someone to be in the way of my bullets when they exit my gun so they will scream and go blurgh and die and give me their ammo.Merkavar said:
Where it starts to get creepy is when you want to play a game because of who it has you killing; that's like if someone released a mod for MW2 to change all the civilians in the airport over to a different, very specific nationality, say, Argentinians. It's so specific that it's unsettling, and it crosses the line from "I just want to have fun shooting things the game tells me to" into "I just want to shoot a very well-defined group of human beings that currently exist".
The_ModeRazor said:
one good example would be the syphon filter series from the ol' playstation (granted its only in 2 where you're going up against american soldiers and covert operatives but if you don't play all three games the story won't make sense, and true most of the time you're playing as an american (but on the plus side the character in question in not a meathead or a wisecracking smartass))benzooka said:
The problem is that the US government gets really bitchy about people shooting at even fake Americans. Remember the whole Medal of Honor deal where people convinced themselves that it was a Taliban training simulator? Yeah, our government is pretty stupid sometimes.
Reasons why it probably wouldn't work aside, I think that it's a fine idea. I feel that a game based on the Vietnam War could be really intriguing if both sides of the conflict were represented--it could provide some interesting gameplay variety while providing a more objective view on a conflict that fell into a bunch of moral gray areas. That's really where I fell like a game with Americans as the bad guys would shine--the conflicts which didn't have a definitive right or wrong side (it's hard to argue that the Nazis were just misunderstood and pitiable, but it's equally as hard to claim that Vietnamese farmers were a force of evil).
I suppose that what I'm trying to say is that someone should come up with an almost documentary-style game which fully fleshes out both sides of a conflict and serves to educate. I particularly think that the Vietnam War would be a great example of this, being a rather fascinating war in terms of both politics and tactics, but just about any conflict (even a made up one) could provide an interesting point/counterpoint system by letting players fight both as and against American troops.
Random other thought: I'm beginning to wonder why Americans are the only people who seem to get to star in games these days. Where are our games starring the British, German, Italian, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc.? Why is it that pretty much every game stars a generic US special forces commando? I mean, we can't be the only country with interesting conflicts in our past and interesting political climates now, so why is it that games keep falling into the 'US vs. Nazis' or "US vs. Russians and residents of an unspecified Middle Eastern country'? Let's see more games about other countries, the USA is boring.
Reasons why it probably wouldn't work aside, I think that it's a fine idea. I feel that a game based on the Vietnam War could be really intriguing if both sides of the conflict were represented--it could provide some interesting gameplay variety while providing a more objective view on a conflict that fell into a bunch of moral gray areas. That's really where I fell like a game with Americans as the bad guys would shine--the conflicts which didn't have a definitive right or wrong side (it's hard to argue that the Nazis were just misunderstood and pitiable, but it's equally as hard to claim that Vietnamese farmers were a force of evil).
I suppose that what I'm trying to say is that someone should come up with an almost documentary-style game which fully fleshes out both sides of a conflict and serves to educate. I particularly think that the Vietnam War would be a great example of this, being a rather fascinating war in terms of both politics and tactics, but just about any conflict (even a made up one) could provide an interesting point/counterpoint system by letting players fight both as and against American troops.
Random other thought: I'm beginning to wonder why Americans are the only people who seem to get to star in games these days. Where are our games starring the British, German, Italian, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, etc.? Why is it that pretty much every game stars a generic US special forces commando? I mean, we can't be the only country with interesting conflicts in our past and interesting political climates now, so why is it that games keep falling into the 'US vs. Nazis' or "US vs. Russians and residents of an unspecified Middle Eastern country'? Let's see more games about other countries, the USA is boring.
I wouldn't mind playing as Nazi Germany throughout the entirity of WW2, like the same squad of guys through the Siege of Stalingrad, Occupation of Paris etc ending with the Fall of Berlin with you and the remainder of your squad sitting in a bombed out building at the end , having a little "k guys lets do this" moment before having a whole Halo Reach "last stand when you can't win" type setpiece. Would be epic
Just a question but weren't two of the main characters from the Resistance series British? I know it doesn't really count since it's Human vs alien but still. I would rather see shooters expand more in that area actually. Like, maybe I'm some (insert Barely or never used race) man or woman trying to survive against aliens, demons, or some other supernatural force. I'm not military and I don't have an army to back me up. Hell it could take place in a time before guns really took off. Maybe I could be some ordinary fisherman in ancient China until horrid shit went down. Then I'm just trying to survive with whatever I can use. Mostly homemade booby traps. Something more like Prey would also work. I don't know, I just never like shooting people anyway.bassdrum said:
I would probably play shooters vs other humans more often if, like you said, they fleshed out both sides and allowed fairly equal playtime for each side. Solely against Americans would create a horrendous amount of trolling online. More than usual anyway.