Poll: how do YOU feel about thunderf00t

[PurplePlatypus]

I like his science videos, never been much interested in the ?why people laugh at creationists? series. I suppose it?s because there are other people, who do that sort of thing, I prefer.

 

[Ampersand]

I used to like him and thought he made excellent points, but recently he's lost alot of credibility with me. Ever since he moved his talking point from creationists to Muslims his valid points have become fewer and farther between.

How exactly does that make sense? His position hasn't changed. The only difference is the fact that people are more afraid of muslims then they are of christians.

What didn't you understand? He has not made as many valid points on the topic of Islam, as he did on the topic of Creationists. What part of that passed you by?

How about the point that Islam expects to be immune to criticism when it isn't or that Islam is discriminative by it's very nature.
Those are just the points that I remember off the top of my head, and it seems that the first one is eerily applicable to you.

On top of that there are very few points he's made about christians or other chreationists that arn't also true about muslims if not more so, but for some reason whenever they are made with reference to muslims suddenly it's not ok.

 

[Ampersand]

I like his science videos, never been much interested in the ?why people laugh at creationists? series. I suppose it?s because there are other people, who do that sort of thing, I prefer.

Check out "Aronra" if you haven't already.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I fucking love the man. I'd have his babies if it were possible. I've never understood "tolerance" as a normal social aspect when religious fundamentalists still roam the planet. I feel no need to be tolerant towards them.

Also, I love Aron Ra as well. The Living Dinosaur is relatively new, but also hilarious. Oh yeah, Andromedas Wake, too.

I watch their videos religiously. HAH! Get it! RELIGIOUSLY!

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Anti-Theists/Extreme Atheists=Religious Nutjob, so I don't like him. However, I will bet he is funny, like another Extreme Atheist I know, "NonStampCollector".

Regardless, Obvious Troll is Troll.

 

[child of lileth]

I've never even heard of him, so I don't really care.

 

[kickyourass]

I used to like him and thought he made excellent points, but recently he's lost alot of credibility with me. Ever since he moved his talking point from creationists to Muslims his valid points have become fewer and farther between.

How exactly does that make sense? His position hasn't changed. The only difference is the fact that people are more afraid of muslims then they are of christians.

What didn't you understand? He has not made as many valid points on the topic of Islam, as he did on the topic of Creationists. What part of that passed you by?

How about the point that Islam expects to be immune to criticism when it isn't or that Islam is discriminative by it's very nature.
Those are just the points that I remember off the top of my head, and it seems that the first one is eerily applicable to you.

On top of that there are very few points he's made about christians or other chreationists that arn't also true about muslims if not more so, but for some reason whenever they are made with reference to muslims suddenly it's not ok.

The reason it's less ok when he makes those statements about say Islam then when he makes them about creationists, is because, creationists are a sub group within the religions, and Islam is an entire religion. Similarly, the Muslims who go ape shit in the Middle East or Indonesia (places that aren't exactly wellsprings of rationality) when to comes to their faith DO NOT represent the Muslims in the West, but TF is constantly taking the actions of people in THOSE places, and he tries to apply them to the Muslims HERE. You can say that Creationists aren't rational when they live in scientifically advanced places like the UK or whatever, but still they refuse to believe a word of it, but you cannot say that all Muslims are irrational if the only example you're going to use are people who live in a country where fanaticism is practically required by law. Now if he had pointed to some kind of mass protest in America or Western Europe that is similar to those found in the Middle East, then he might have a better position, but he didn't, so he doesn't.

 

[Ampersand]

The reason it's less ok when he makes those statements about say Islam then when he makes them about creationists, is because, creationists are a sub group within the religions, and Islam is an entire religion. Similarly, the Muslims who go ape shit in the Middle East or Indonesia (places that aren't exactly wellsprings of rationality) when to comes to their faith DO NOT represent the Muslims in the West, but TF is constantly taking the actions of people in THOSE places, and he tries to apply them to the Muslims HERE. You can say that Creationists aren't rational when they live in scientifically advanced places like the UK or whatever, but still they refuse to believe a word of it, but you cannot say that all Muslims are irrational if the only example you're going to use are people who live in a country where fanaticism is practically required by law. Now if he had pointed to some kind of mass protest in America or Western Europe that is similar to those found in the Middle East, then he might have a better position, but he didn't, so he doesn't.

No offence but that's a cop-out and you know it. Are you trying to say that Muslim countries are some kind of lost cause and if they threaten our right to free speech then it's fine because they don't know any better?(Not to mention the violations of human rights that the muslim faith inflicts upon it's own members)No one is immune to criticism.

FYI: Muslims are chreationists, even in western countries. Which is irrelevant because faith by it's nature is irrational so claiming that one religious group is more rational then another is a moot point.

 

[Tsaba]

I just watched a few of his videos expecting a troll but he actually seems like a very intelligent guy.

It's common for Christians to see Atheistic videos as "attacks" on your beliefs but you have to get used to the fact that they're usually being perfectly reasonable.

I'm a christian and I personally don't care what he thinks, It's the moron's (the guy he's ripping) fault for posting crap on the internet. Seriously, what was he expecting? An AA group for disgruntled Christians who are laughed at for making stupid points.

 

[kickyourass]

The reason it's less ok when he makes those statements about say Islam then when he makes them about creationists, is because, creationists are a sub group within the religions, and Islam is an entire religion. Similarly, the Muslims who go ape shit in the Middle East or Indonesia (places that aren't exactly wellsprings of rationality) when to comes to their faith DO NOT represent the Muslims in the West, but TF is constantly taking the actions of people in THOSE places, and he tries to apply them to the Muslims HERE. You can say that Creationists aren't rational when they live in scientifically advanced places like the UK or whatever, but still they refuse to believe a word of it, but you cannot say that all Muslims are irrational if the only example you're going to use are people who live in a country where fanaticism is practically required by law. Now if he had pointed to some kind of mass protest in America or Western Europe that is similar to those found in the Middle East, then he might have a better position, but he didn't, so he doesn't.

No offence but that's a cop-out and you know it. Are you trying to say that Muslim countries are some kind of lost cause and if they threaten our right to free speech then it's fine because they don't know any better?(Not to mention the violations of human rights that the muslim faith inflicts upon it's own members)No one is immune to criticism.

FYI: Muslims are chreationists, even in western countries. Which is irrelevant because faith by it's nature is irrational so claiming that one religious group is more rational then another is a moot point.

Of course I'm not saying that, I'm saying that if you're trying to say that the Muslims in Western countries are irrational, you can't use Muslims in Middle Eastern countries to back that up. Not only because they aren't Western countries, but they are also the most extreme members of the religion, and you can't judge an entire group of people just from the craziest of the crazy within that group.

Oh and FYI: I'm not an idiot I know that there are Muslim creationists, at what point did I say anything to indicate otherwise?

 

[Shock and Awe]

Hes alright, sometimes I agree completely, sometimes he is dead wrong.

 

[lacktheknack]

...Who?

I don't watch YouTubers, especially ones that have opinions.

 

[Merkavar]

i think i have have seen all his videos and i dont think he was racist once. but considering he normally talks about religion its abit had to be racist.

i think the people you should be more concerned about are the people in his videos. like those preacher dudes that have churches that just go on about rubbish that any one that made it past primary school would laugh at and are now in prison on fruad charges.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

Never heard of him, but he sounds like a great guy.

 

[Inuprince]

I watch The Amazing Atheist!

 

[RebelRising]

I don't know about this guy, but the Amazing Atheist comes across as a dick to me. It doesn't matter that I agree with a lot of his points, but as an agnostic humanist, I can't in good conscience align myself with condescension, aggression, and dogmatism. He's the kind of guy that gives rationalists a bad name.

 

[JLML]

you know the youtuber whos always bashing Christians, Muslims and other non-atheists
How Do You Feel About Him
personally I think hes a racist self centred asshole

you know, your avatar kinda fits perfectly. xD

OT: Kill him, what do I care? Just make him shut up one way or another.

 

[SimuLord]

He's the poster child for why I tolerate religious zealots more than I tolerate atheists. I'd rather have someone yelling at me why their god is better than my gods than someone who suggests I have an intellectual deficiency for being a man of strong faith.

 

[Broderick]

Hm..never heard of the guy till now. I watched a couple of his videos and it seems he has quite a few points against the more.... "ignorant" members of certain religious communities.
Im not sure about the whole muslim bashing thing, going to have to look more into that.

OT: To those saying he is racist; are you talking about his "target's" race, or religion? RACism has to do with RACE. If you are talking about religion, say he's discriminatory towards that religion. Sorry, things like that just irk me.

 

[CK76]

He's the poster child for why I tolerate religious zealots more than I tolerate atheists. I'd rather have someone yelling at me why their god is better than my gods than someone who suggests I have an intellectual deficiency for being a man of strong faith.

I could see why you wouldn't want someone to do that. It might come across as insulting and childish to project a shallow belief about a person or group. It doesn't lead to understanding or productive dialog, just more name calling and generalizations...

I find as a general matter that atheists are the preachiest of all. As a man of faith myself, it comes off as insecurity and makes me think that denying one's spirituality can't be good for one's mental health (and indeed I was an atheist until finding the gods at age thirty and I've been much more tolerant of other faiths, even those radically different from my own, since then.)

Atheists come off as ignorant of one of the most basic elements of our humanity---the ability we have to look beyond ourselves and see reality in the permanently unprovable. It is a sense of wonder that cannot be so easily replaced by pure reason (which may in turn explain so many atheists' dogma about science---lacking an outlet for their spirit they find one in a very religion-like approach to empirical proof.)

Yep, be pretty annoying for someone to do that.