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Chipperz

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You're standing in a game store one day, when two games catch your eye. One is called Halo Gears : Episode 3 - a new FPS/RTS/RPG extravaganza, the latest in what has now become an official title - The Hardcore Game. It looks gorgeous, it's deep, it's emotional, it has a well told plotline that could be summed up in three sentences, it's hard as adamantium nails. The other is Puu Sports 18, which is designed to offer a series of fun minigames that you know you can play with your entire family - it's quick, it's easy, it's very, VERY Casual. As you pick them up, you get two very different visions of the future...

As you pick up the Hardcore Game, you have visions of less and less kids playing, some buying games for a bit as games get harder and harder. They look for help on line, and are told to "stfu" because they're "n00bs". They have no idea what this means and decide to go outside and play with their friends who are having similar experiences. You go forward a decade. Everyone who's classified themselves as a "Hardcore Gamer" is now out of school. As they get jobs, they get less time to game, most phase it out. The last game to be released gets no sales, because everyone who'd be interested is online, complaining to the few remaining games companies that it's their fault noone's online to play their games any more.

As you pick up the Casual Game, you see a popular new trend coming among all games consoles - the cheap and the gimmicky. More and more kids, parents and OAPs are picking up the Puu, which has become the omniconsole after every other competitor pulled out of the console wars. The FPS and the RTS are becoming dying breeds, and RPGs are all about bright pink ladyboys training tiny creatures to knock out their opponents while extolling the virtues of not killing each other. The remaining "Hardcore Gamers" retreat to the last bastion of gore and immersion - the PC. This lasts for a while, but eventually PISTOn release a game that involves using advanced physics engines to knock over brightly coloured pins. Complaints are ignored and boycotts are laughed off 'cos the Hardcore crowd were never going to buy it anyway - and Casual gaming is selling faaar better than pandering to Hardcore gamers, a dying audience.

You realise that you have enough money to buy one, and you really want a new game. It's on you to decide the fate of gaming. Which do you buy?

And yes, you have to buy one or the other...

Also, this precog gift only works on those two games. You don't get superpowers out of the deal.
 

Kermi

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Your predictions make no sense whatsoever, and are based on certain observations of gamer mentality that are patently incorrect, like people not gaming after they're out of school and have jobs. You know the average gamer is about 30, right?

Assuming that for the purpose of this discussion (i.e.: not the real world) your prophecies are ultimately fulfilled, casual gaming is the only way to save the gaming industry. And a world filled with casual games is still, in this narrow paradigm, simply not worthwhile.
 

catfish

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Given a choice between $100 worth of mini games or a sequel to a sequel combining to 2 mediocre games, I'd probably walk out of the store and spend my money on something worthwhile.... like 5 games of laser tag
 

rekabdarb

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well through your description i would go with the casual because... i dislike halo. Plus i don't have a 360 (reason why i hate halo is because after 1 or 2 warmup matches i can beat my friends who own the damn game)
 

GrouchyBigfoot

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I would go for the deep game but nothing with Halo or Gears in the name because it would be over hyped bullshit.
 

Bat Vader

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I would buy the Hardcore Game and realize hardcore gamers are a dying age as young fan-boys/girls rip each other apart over who has the best console. Casual gamers may take our place but will never take our spirit.

60 years down the road as I lay on my deathbed I have my family of hardcore games and consoles right beside me including the first console to breed me into a hardcore gamer. My Super Nintendo Entertainment System.
 

Lazarus Long

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Wait a minute, I just realized something. "Halo Gears" is

Chipperz said:
gorgeous, it's deep, it's emotional, it has a well told plotline
Well now I know this is a hypothetical situation.
 

-Drifter-

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Lazarus Long said:
Really, given those two choices... I'd just go out to eat.
As long as it isn't pizza again. Hell, I'll pay for us both if it isn't pizza again.

Your scenarios are both too extreme, and besides, I'd probably go buy something more obscure and interesting, like Beyond Good and Red Dead Evil.
 

Chaosut

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Some sort of a middle ground would be nice, but considering the situation you provided, i'd probably have to go with the casual game. Mostly because it's cheaper, but really i haven't played many games that i'd consider particularly fixated towards either end of the casual/hardcore continium.
 

Lazarus Long

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-Stranger- said:
Your scenarios are both too extreme, and besides, I'd probably go buy something more obscure and interesting, like Beyond Good and Red Dead Evil.
Or Psychomari Damanauts. Or X-Com: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura. This is fun!
 

3LANCER

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Why does everyone pick Halo or Gears as a synonym for a "tru"/"hardcore" game?
And why do you think hardcore game must be ultra hard? Or have a bland storyline?
Or why would anyone's choice over a piece of software influence the whole world?

Or... or... or... *sound of head exploding*
 

PureChaos

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the hardcore game. as i have a wii there aren't many hardcore games that i can get my teeth inti yet there are many many MANY casual games.
 

Legion

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Kermi said:
Your predictions make no sense whatsoever, and are based on certain observations of gamer mentality that are patently incorrect, like people not gaming after they're out of school and have jobs. You know the average gamer is about 30, right?
Lazarus Long said:
Really, given those two choices... I'd just go out to eat.
These.

Also as somebody who has played Halo and Gears of War, those games combined in any shape or form would be horrific.
 

Wargamer

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I wouldn't buy either - I'd buy a game for a casual gamer like myself, such as Mercenaries 3: This Time The Indians Get Nuked!

See, I hate the term 'Hardcore' gaming. A Hardcore gamer is the sort of retard that thinks any game that isn't about splattering blood all over a generic brown, grey or brown-grey landscape is crap.

I play games to unwind (and to an extent, to whore Trophies). I really don't want to get involved in a game where you have to remorise a 234 hit combo to beat the first level boss, or to get into a multiplayer battle with someone who has mastered the art of glitching grenades through the wall to spawn-frag me before I get a word in.

I want to play a game that will challenge me just enough to make it feel like an accomplishment when I win. That's pretty much all I ask for. Doesn't matter if I get that from Killzone 2 or Wii Sports.

I'm a casual gamer, and fucking proud of it. And no, casuals don't play stupid minigame fests all the time - you're thinking of "non-gamer" gamers like my parents.