SnowCold said:
I have proof, I passed an IQ test that proved I'm a genuise, but I kinda think IQ tests ae flawed so I'm hypociritcal.
Which IQ-test? Was it on the internet? Then no, you don't have proof. If it wasn't, then please specify via what organisation or psychologist you took the test, and what specific test version and scale was used.
Iron Mal said:
IQ tests tend to be inaccurate and biased due to most of the questions (and answers) being focused towards a white, middle class background (at least this is theorised to be the case in the UK anyway) so I'd hardly call it proof (although you did realise this so credit to you for pointing it out).
That's true for most of the "IQ tests". It is not, however, true for IQ tests without the quotation marks. Because for an IQ test to be considered serious, it has to be "culture-fair". Examples of serious, culture-fair IQ tests include Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices (RAPM), Cattell Culture Fair (CFIT) and Figure Reasoning Test (FRT). These tests include no verbal or numerical components, and are instead completely based on deducing the next figure/shape in a progressive series. This has been proven to have absolutely no connection with cultural differences, as all that is required is an ability to understand logic and complexity - commonly known as the
G-factor [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_intelligence_factor]. Culture-fair IQ tests do not feature "questions" as such, only series of figures, where your task is to identify the next logical addition to it.
Sisyphus0 said:
IQ tests are especially misleading and are inadequate measures of ones cognitive potential and ability.
How so? Please motivate. The
G-factor [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_intelligence_factor] is a scientifically accepted attribute, and IQ has been shown to correlate with
G at 0.9, if I remember correctly.
Strategia said:
At the risk of sounding extremely arrogant, I'm significantly smarter than the average person. My IQ was tested when I was 5 years old, with the result being 155. (According to this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IQ_curve.svg], it's literally off the scale.)
... What scale? And where did you get it measured? Because there are very, very,
very few tests that measure that high up on the standardized (Wechsler) IQ-scale. Because the Wechsler-scale has a standard deviation of 15, results above 140 are nearly impossible to measure accurately, as they would require a freaking
huge test-group in order to get a reliable average. Which would cost insane amounts of money.
Now, I realize that as a 5-year old, you wouldn't get to take a standardized IQ-test because your brain wasn't fully developed. Which poses another problem. Accurately measuring the IQ of such a young child is even more difficult, and even closer to impossible on high levels. If you did, indeed, get that result on a serious test by a legitimate psychologist, then it was most definetly on the Cattell scale - which noone uses anymore because it's pretty much crap. Anyway, a 155 on the Cattell scale would translate to something like 135 on the standardized Wechsler-scale. Which puts you in the top 1%, but certainly not off the scale.
Spitfire175 said:
I suppose being a mensa member makes me marter than most people.
Join the group, then! [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Mensa-International]
D_987 said:
whilst others have used IQ despite all the evidence to suggest the number is meaningless.
What evidence is this I keep hearing about? I've said it before, and I'll say it again... IQ measures
G, which is a scientifically accepted attribute. Psychologists and scientists everywhere make use of it in their studies, because
it has been proven to correlate with all major cognitive abilities. The only conclusion I can come to is that you people look at all the random "IQ" tests found on the internet and scowl at the fact that every man and his uncle is given outlandish results... But hey, guess what? The internet is not a reliable source. If you want a true measurement of IQ, or G, then take a standardized, supervised test. Either find a psychologist that offers testing, or contact Mensa. I suggest the latter, because those psychologists are unfamiliar with the concept of numbers with less than four digits in terms of billing.