Poll: Human Augmentations. Your Stance?

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The Random One

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Hell yeah, sign me up. And if your augmentations fuck me up I'll just rip them off and replace them with Google's. They're much better. Well, except that they come with Brain Logic for Eyeball and you can't uninstall it.

GrizzlerBorno said:
But think about it for even a second.....and you realize that it's absolutely what corporations would do. They probably wouldn't even tell you that the simple supplement pills you're buying from them are addictive. They probably would just leave that in small print in the EULA. You know the thing NO-ONE EVER READS!
There was a massive shitstorm about one year back when someone pointed out that the way the Gmail EULa was written it gave Google the right to use anything sent through it to promote Gmail (i.e., if you are on a band and you send a song to your producer through Gmail, Google could use it on a Gmail ad without paying you for it). It's a standard clause in most EULAs, it essentially means 'if you do something cool with our product we can use it to show how cool it is' but Gmail's was poorly written. Google excised that clause shortly afterwards - they didn't even replace it with a standard thing, they just cut the whole thing off.

So don't think NO ONE EVER READS the EULA. Plenty of people do. Companies can get away with plenty of stuff, but not exactly 'our stuff is addictive'.
 

Yal

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Esotera said:
Yeah, damn human augmentations, who would ever need those?

Beat me to it. I was irrevocably sold on human augmentation way back in the 80s, on the day I put on my first pair of eyeglasses.

The maintenance fees aren't nearly as bad as y'all are making it out to be. There's plenty of available replacement providers, cost is a couple hundred bucks recommended once a year and insurance covers most of it.
 

Stoike

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I say it's a persons choice and if they wish to remain "pure" then that is their self affirming right to be who they are but if they wish to "augment" themselves then they should be given free rein on it
 

RedBeta22

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I would do it with very little hesitation. The only thing I don't like about the augmentation as seen in the trailer is that they would possibly have the ability to control or at least influence my thoughts. Those against augmentation talk about giving up your humanity by getting augmented, but I don't think your physical body is what makes you human. It's you mind. Your consciousness. Replace my body with machines and plug the parts into my brain but don't mess with the underlying bits that make me human. Does this make sens to anybody?
 

Dismal purple

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I don't get the whole addiction thing as a plot device. Isn't the whole deal with your artificial implants being rejected by your body already making you completely dependent on the substance?
 

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Honestly its the only way to continue evolution now that natural selection is out of the equation.
 

Kair

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You can't treat Human augmentation as if it was connected to Corporatism and greed. We can't objectively discuss these things unless we get rid of the mindset that is connected to the current wrong society and any future wrong societies.

Easier to understand: X is deemed bad because in Ysociety it has bad consequences.
In Zsociety, which does not share the same negative factors that turn X bad, X does not have bad consequences.
The fault does not lie in X, but in Ysociety.
 

BleedingPride

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well this brings me to nano bots. im okay with human augmentation as long as we keep what makes us human, i.e. emotions, all five senses our minds etc. If science says we can reverse the effects of aging to make you look and feel younger as you age by all means its okay with me.
 

WazzizFace

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If not for the drug addiction, potential homelessness, poverty and death; I would sign up for a robot arm straight away!

But only if it was a cool one like in iRobot that you could paint human colour.
 

fundayz

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GrizzlerBorno said:
But think about it for even a second.....and you realize that it's absolutely what corporations would do. They probably wouldn't even tell you that the simple supplement pills you're buying from them are addictive. They probably would just leave that in small print in the EULA. You know the thing NO-ONE EVER READS!
It's 100% illegal to sell ANY product that is possibly addictive without making this fact CLEAR and OBVIOUS.

A company might try to pull this off but they would end up being sued into the ground.
 

daydreamerdeluxe

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BleedingPride said:
well this brings me to nano bots. im okay with human augmentation as long as we keep what makes us human, i.e. emotions, all five senses our minds etc. If science says we can reverse the effects of aging to make you look and feel younger as you age by all means its okay with me.
A short extract from Aaron Diaz's A Thinking Ape?s Critique of Trans-Simianism [http://dresdencodak.com/2009/05/15/a-thinking-apes-critique-of-trans-simianism-repost/]:
Thog said:
Klomp predicts that through a technology called ?hygiene? we could extend the simian lifespan well into the late 20s or possibly 30s. What exactly will the post-simian do with all that time? Do we really want to live in a society populated by geriatric 27- year- olds? In living so long and spending so much time ?thinking,? do we not also run the risk of becoming a cold, passionless race incapable of experiencing our two emotions (fear and not fear)? How much of our simianity are we willing to sacrifice for this notion of progress?
I'd advise you read the whole thing, it's very well put together and does a very effective critique of "We must keep what keeps us human!". I don't know about you, but, as a post-simian, I quite enjoy having more emotions than fear and not fear ;)
 

Krythe

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The game actually does a good job of creating a dichotomy here.
On one hand, I want superpowers like every other human being.
On the other, the idea of having a corporation able to shut off your eyes is just fucking freaky. And the drug addiction doesn't help.
 

WrathOfAchilles

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This is really a question? Hell yes to human augmentation. Most of you are too young to know Johnny Mnemonic. As for the commercial about being controlled by them, what's wrong, you guys aren't computer scientists with engineering backgrounds too? Hack the augmented parts.
 

Kais86

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To what end? I mean, unless it will allow me to do crazy stuff, like keep my tea from spilling, there is no purpose in it. Most people don't need augmentation, the ones that do are military, surgeons, police, and firefighters. I wouldn't mind if they did augment those people, though the price is probably a little too high to be worth it.
 

xdiesp

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Leiji Matsumoto said everything there was to say about this 40 years ago. As soon as some people will begin augmenting ("mechanizing") themselves, a new elite will be born which sees the rest as inferiors. At least in the beginning, later they won't even recognize them as proper humans (unevolved).