Poll: Human Sexual Preferance....
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I came up with my own variant on this, but I placed a sexual attraction as one born from a significantly high amount of attraction to a person. So you can be physically attracted to someone without being sexually attracted (like a heterosexual male is physically attracted to other men in that they find people who look nicer more attractive, just not enough to arouse sexual desires). Am I making sense?Aureliano said:
Okay, basically think of it like this, everyone is attracted or repulsed to everyone else they ever see/meet/whatever on a physical and social level. A high enough collective attraction to a person creates a sexual desire for that person (the amount of attractio needed depends on the strength of the attracted person's sex drive). People who are heterosexual find the psychological and physical aspects commonly found in members of the opposite sex to be fairly attractive, while finding psychological and physical traits of same-sex people to be less attractive.
So yeah, similar idea, except I have sexual desire set as the product of attraction, not the source of attraction (though from an evolutionary perspective, the non-sexual attractions may be a preferred trait because it better allows for reproduction).
Can't really say for sure. I've met more openly gay men than women, but I think I've met more total men than women in my lifetime.
I have a difficult time placing myself in the shoes of someone with a different sexual preference, since my personal empathy seems sharply limited in that area.
I have a difficult time placing myself in the shoes of someone with a different sexual preference, since my personal empathy seems sharply limited in that area.
Online, I know more bisexual guys. In real life, everyone and their dog is bisexual nowadays.
I know more gay men than women. When a girl is bi or gay it's "sexy" but when a guy is bi or gay he's usually a ******, every one of my gay male friends has been bullied at one point.
I know more gay men than women. When a girl is bi or gay it's "sexy" but when a guy is bi or gay he's usually a ******, every one of my gay male friends has been bullied at one point.
It's not a false image. Seriously. Go make friends with a tonne of guys and ask them about this. I can personally vouch that the entirety of my male peerg roup will happily enjoy watching two girls making out, whilst chasing their male equivalents away.Nimcha said:
It's due partially to self-confidence issues, and, yes, pornography. We get most of our initial knowledge about sex from it.
And yes, I'm afraid that is acceptance, compared to what us boys get.
It's not rational, it doesn't make sense, but that's just the way people are.
In my personal experience of it, it seems that lesbians are far more readily accepted than gay men.
I honestly don't know why. I genuinely believe it's just because to a wide proportion of the straight male population, lesbianism is okay because "lesbians are hot" whereas the thought of two blokes getting it on is usually enough to make them cringe severely.
It actually kind of annoys me really. Nobody seems to bat an eyelid at lesbians, but gay guys seem to get a load of hassle about it.
It terms of the actual 'experimentation' it's much easier for girls to experiment with each other. Women are just naturally more open about themselves. If they're curious, they can easily just tell their other female friends and be totally at ease with the entire thing.
Whereas guys are naturally programmed to repress any 'unnatural' desires they may have, so when you yourself, if your a guy, are in the 'experimental' area of your life, it's insanely difficult to find another like-minded guy because it's pretty much impossible to tell, and asking would most likely get you a weird look, an insult, or a punch. Or all 3.
I honestly don't know why. I genuinely believe it's just because to a wide proportion of the straight male population, lesbianism is okay because "lesbians are hot" whereas the thought of two blokes getting it on is usually enough to make them cringe severely.
It actually kind of annoys me really. Nobody seems to bat an eyelid at lesbians, but gay guys seem to get a load of hassle about it.
It terms of the actual 'experimentation' it's much easier for girls to experiment with each other. Women are just naturally more open about themselves. If they're curious, they can easily just tell their other female friends and be totally at ease with the entire thing.
Whereas guys are naturally programmed to repress any 'unnatural' desires they may have, so when you yourself, if your a guy, are in the 'experimental' area of your life, it's insanely difficult to find another like-minded guy because it's pretty much impossible to tell, and asking would most likely get you a weird look, an insult, or a punch. Or all 3.
I am sorry, where is this? because most middle eastern countries have very very strict rules about being gay, in Iran you'll get whiped as punishment or worse.loc978 said:
I don't think it's any easier or more common for women to be non-heterosexual than men... but in a lot of our societies, it is more 'acceptable'. A fair bit of that acceptance hinges on the wrong reasons though. So a woman may find somewhat less disgust and violence than a man once they are out... They will have to deal with things like some men wanting or expecting to watch or join in. Of course, in the real important matters like equal rights... yeah, both men and women are still screwed in that department if they're not straight.
That might be so but it seems they not quite there enough to call it expected http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iraqloc978 said:
It's easier and it's harder to be a gay man, worldwide that to be a lesbian. Much easier and much harder. However, it's basically impossible to be a bisexual guy and not be labeled gay by default by many, so in that case, it's "easier" for bisexual girls, but not really so in the grand scheme of things, since bisexual men are basically just rounded in the "men who likes other men" group. "Gay" is so polarizing, either people are huge for it or against it, generally. Lesbian is just........a lot of people don't even recognize lesbians, if you know what I mean. Gay men are basically the face of the entire gay rights movement, so they tend to get the most shit but also the most praise and protection from society. Also, the people who tend to give gay men the most shit are men who eventually are outed as gay themselves, or simply men with severe identity crisis, so it just makes these facts even more so. It's like you must be insecure if you're anti-gay so people say nothing or rally behind the cause. You don't hear anti-lesbian, or pro-lesbian.
Even male homosexuality is more accepted than female homosexuality in general. When 2 men kiss it's a lot of support and then a lot of haters, but it's like............it's considered real. There is way more attention because it is considered real and it's like pushing the buttons of some because of that. And again, it's like, if you are against this, you're considered insecure or prudish, these days people are shamed for being homophobic. A lot of people don't take lesbianism seriously, it's not as real to many people. Liking to see 2, usually straight girls, kiss, is not accepting female homosexuality, it's accepting a mental imagination or fantasy. Gay identity, and everything that revolves around it, is a lot more mainstream.
Even male homosexuality is more accepted than female homosexuality in general. When 2 men kiss it's a lot of support and then a lot of haters, but it's like............it's considered real. There is way more attention because it is considered real and it's like pushing the buttons of some because of that. And again, it's like, if you are against this, you're considered insecure or prudish, these days people are shamed for being homophobic. A lot of people don't take lesbianism seriously, it's not as real to many people. Liking to see 2, usually straight girls, kiss, is not accepting female homosexuality, it's accepting a mental imagination or fantasy. Gay identity, and everything that revolves around it, is a lot more mainstream.
No, not even close. In fact, I'd say it's harder in a lot of cases. There seems to be this idea that we're more open, but that only seems to apply with girls that are quite attractive in the first place. Take your average girl and have her admit that she's bisexual or gay in a public setting, everyone will shut up right there. Why? Because it's weird for us.
As odd and disgraceful as it is, people have a bad tendency to organize people into neat little drawers in their minds. When a guy says he's gay, someone who is tolerant of that sort of thing knows exactly where to file them. What do you do when a normal seeming girl says the same thing? We who haven't gotten past the idea that all gay or bi women are either hotter than hell or butch biker girls with a mullet. Filing becomes problematic.
I know a majority of you are saying yes. But think for a moment WHY you are saying yes. Women don't have it easier in that regard. Not at all.
As odd and disgraceful as it is, people have a bad tendency to organize people into neat little drawers in their minds. When a guy says he's gay, someone who is tolerant of that sort of thing knows exactly where to file them. What do you do when a normal seeming girl says the same thing? We who haven't gotten past the idea that all gay or bi women are either hotter than hell or butch biker girls with a mullet. Filing becomes problematic.
I know a majority of you are saying yes. But think for a moment WHY you are saying yes. Women don't have it easier in that regard. Not at all.
From what i've seen with friends and various tales i've heard, its easier for girls to come out as gay than guys.
There is very much this alpha male social structure which is almost primally built into our minds. As we grow up we learn its not manly to like boys etc. So it tends to make guys coming out much more difficult. There tends to be a lot of public persercution (sp?) towards gay men, probably onset by other mens homophobia.
Thats not to say gay women don't experience similar hatred from fear by other women. It just seems to be more severe, or at the least less subtle with men.
Although as time has progressed, being gay has become a lot more of an acceptable lifestyle. I mean in the past being gay has been called reason for exile or execution, a mental illness and an excuse for 30 guys to kick in 3 other guys in a bar. Modern day, its not taken seriously, ignored or causes some drama but nothing like it would 20-30 years ago.
There is very much this alpha male social structure which is almost primally built into our minds. As we grow up we learn its not manly to like boys etc. So it tends to make guys coming out much more difficult. There tends to be a lot of public persercution (sp?) towards gay men, probably onset by other mens homophobia.
Thats not to say gay women don't experience similar hatred from fear by other women. It just seems to be more severe, or at the least less subtle with men.
Although as time has progressed, being gay has become a lot more of an acceptable lifestyle. I mean in the past being gay has been called reason for exile or execution, a mental illness and an excuse for 30 guys to kick in 3 other guys in a bar. Modern day, its not taken seriously, ignored or causes some drama but nothing like it would 20-30 years ago.