Poll: Hungary bans homeless people.

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TriGGeR_HaPPy

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Yeah, at the risk of repeating the same sentiment as most other people in this thread... Wtf? Seriously, what the... I don't even understand how this came to pass.
How do they expect this to help? At all?
*sigh*
 

CrazyGirl17

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(Face palms) I hate people, i really do. It'll never work. Wonder what human rights activists think...
 

saruman31

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Most of them would want to go to jail anyway. At least they don`t hurt anyone in the process this way. But the law is still stupid.
 

Danny Ocean

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You know what's going to happen?

Hospices are going to open up which charge less than homeless people are fined for being on the streets.
 

Dango

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So they're fining people for not having money?

How's that supposed to make any sense at all?
 

ShadowsofHope

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Therumancer said:
You know, it'd probably be much easier to find the point of your walls of text if you simply just use less words for less words instead of more words for less words to emphasize the core thesis of pretty much every one:

"Them darned liberals." I mean, that's pretty much all they come down to, in the end. Disgruntled Conservative blogging.

OT: Hungary, stop using the logic (or lack of it) the U.S. Senate loves to on a regular basis, it's bad for you. I mean really, this law is a whole new brand of "..Wtf how?".
 

Robert Ewing

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Wow. I guess homeless people won't go hungary anymore if they aren't allowed to.

I'll end my life now for that joke.
 

MegaManOfNumbers

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z121231211 said:
While we're at it let's ban murder and having credit card debt. That'll make it go away!
Yup, that makes sense.

Just like how telling a person to stop breathing will stop them from breathing.

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Alright, WHAT KIND OF FUCKING SENSE DOES THIS MAKE?! I know politicians are evil, but are they also stupid?! WHAT?!
 

brainslurper

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theheroofaction said:
Now, I may be wrong about this, but isn't the first step to having a home in any particular country to be in that country without a home?

And even then, there's the logistical problem that those without homes tend to be the same people as those who can't pay fines
WRONG. With all the money they save by not having a home, they should be able to pay lots of fines. Isn't that how it works?
 

Andy Szidon

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CrystalShadow said:
They imply that being homeless and poor is something people do out of choice, and that they could easily choose not to be like that.
They could work hard...and not smoke...and get a job... and other stuff.
 

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Andy Szidon said:
CrystalShadow said:
They imply that being homeless and poor is something people do out of choice, and that they could easily choose not to be like that.
They could work hard...and not smoke...and get a job... and other stuff.
How?

Mabye your right though as an employer what i look for is some one with a CV written on the back of a plastic bag found in the trash with crayon. Having no way to contact them for an interview and them turning up not having bathed in 2 months and a clean set of clothes in several more.

The only way they could get enough money for some clean clothes and a bath is if some one takes pity on them, and without that no one would hire them.
 

CrystalShadow

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Andy Szidon said:
CrystalShadow said:
They imply that being homeless and poor is something people do out of choice, and that they could easily choose not to be like that.
They could work hard...and not smoke...and get a job... and other stuff.
Ah yes... Wait... Not smoke? What's that got to do with anything.

But 'get a job' is not the triviality everyone makes it out to be.

There have to be jobs. And you have to be better at convincing someone to hire you than anyone else fighting for the same job.

And this all still assumes things like this are based on merit. Which isn't anywhere near as true as people like to think it is...

Aside from which, there's a difference between avoiding a bad situation in the first place, and getting out of it once you're there.

And, the worst part is, you can end up in a bad situation quite easily, and there's nothing you can do about it.

And the only way out is usually if someone helps you dig yourself out of the hole.

But... How likely is that in a society where this is considered your own fault exactly?
"If it's your own fault, I don't have to help you. So... Too bad. See ya.
Not like it could possibly happen to me, because I work hard!"
 

zidine100

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so there actively going out of there way to fine people who by definition have no money.

Stop right there criminal scum, you know this really reminds me of how oblivion guards were programed, npc who commit crimes have no gold ergo cant pay the fine, what dont look at me like that its a gaming forum dang it.

while i dont know about the situation in Hungary but to all the people who are saying get a job, i mean really have you ever tryed getting a job, unless you have a university degree of some sort or have experience or a nice pair of tits (im really not joking at this point) you will not get a full time job/ very unlikely.

But then again, if your homeless at this point is it really worse going to prison (note i don't know how bad Hungary prison system is) i mean you have a roof over your head and food.
 

Cazza

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Jfswift said:
That is just ridiculous, although in jail at least they'd have food and shelter.
and living with the people society deemed fit to lock away.

People make jail sound like a walk in the park.
 

zidine100

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Cazza said:
Jfswift said:
That is just ridiculous, although in jail at least they'd have food and shelter.
and living with the people society deemed fit to lock away.

People make jail sound like a walk in the park.
you could say..... its better than living in one.


YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

couldn't resist.
 

Ithera

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I have no problem with it, as long as it is coupled with a robust housing program. If it gets them of park benches and into decent apartments I'm all for it. Sadly this doesn't seem to be the case. Other than that, how do you fine somebody with no money? What? should one throw them in jail? Yeah that will do wonders and make everything better.

Kicking a somebody while they is down is never the way to go (Unless it's Blood bowl, bloody wardancers).
 

Ithera

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TheDarkEricDraven said:
Let me put the Hungary government thought process past you real quick: MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY!
Yeah..... money. The homeless are no doubt an endless source of revenue and filthy lucre. Just think about the enormous savings they must have from not eating properly and not paying rent.