Poll: I want a sniper rifle what should I get

[Kuhkren]

If you like bolt actions, Mosin Nagant, Tikka, and Sako. For semis the Dragunov is nice, along with AR10s. I don't see the point in buying .50 unless you have a lot of money, the bullets are rather expensive. You can buy Russian and NATO ammunition in bulk fairly cheap in comparison. If you decide to use NATO rounds I suggest going with Hornaday,great quality and consistency.

I like Hornaday. I use their ammo for self-defense in my handgun.

Agreed, Hornaday rounds are really nice . Usually when you buy ammo you will have a few bullets out of every box that veer off, instead of the consistent quality they have.

 

[Gilhelmi]

I have a custom made .50 BMG rifle that weights in at 47 pounds. It cost me $3000. My wallet goes "Why are you doing this to me?" every time I fire a $7.50 round. I would add a pic but I am not at home.

Dang $7.50 a round. I might go with the Bravo51 just so I do not go to the poor house every time I go to the range. (but I bet it fires like a dream)

Look if you don't know how much ammo cost than I suggest you do a lot more research and lean how to shoot. All you are doing is wasting good money that could otherwise be use for training.

An expensive rifle won't make you a good shooter. There is a lot more than pulling the trigger.

When I was young I spent three to four days a week at the range shooting between 25 to 1000 yards. I spent a lot of money and a lot of time. I learn how to reload to save cost on match grade ammo. Current match grade ammo can cost over $50 for a box of 20 in 308. So you better learn how to reload.

If you're not interested in shooting .22lr as a training vehicle than your next step is .223. They are much more expensive than .22lr but cost much less than .308.

Savage makes very good rifle for a decent price, around $500 retail. Check out the 10FP in .223. They are capable of 1 MOA or less at 100 yards. Buy videos, take classes, and learn how to reload.

Ya, I already know how to shoot .223. I have a great AR-15 (from the 70's) that I shoot. I just never looked at the 50 cal ammo prices till now. I love my AR great weapon has never let me down. I can shoot with it at 200 yards (no scope) reliably and farther about 75% hit rate.

No reason to own one. I mean really? a .50 cal is a bad idea, your asking a bunch of gamers about buying guns, thats a bad idea and you live in kansas which as i see now is a very bad idea because breathing all that fresh air has made you straight jacket wearing bonkers.

Get back on your meds (or start taking some), and go play xbox. But if your still feeling crazy afterwards, walmart has a nice selection of nerf guns that i think will be perfect for someone of your mental condition.

In the immortal words of Charlton Heston "You can take my gun, when you pry it from my cold dead hand" best NRA president we ever had.

I am planning for that, only I call it "emergency plan 1: Viral outbreak"
"emergency plan 2: World War -enemy invasion"
"emergency plan 3: US government goes crazy" (least likely, only if they completely ignore the constitution)

Couple kinks there (and I don't know why I'm bothering but I'm bored):
1) You need to sleep some time
2) If anyone else knows about you owning some kind of "maximum deterrent" they're going to be quite happy to kill you for it since they value their life more than yours
3) If there were some kind of armed insurrection, and you fired on them, they could just as easily mortar your ass, not to mention possessing overwhelming odds
4) In any of the scenarios you better have a huge stockpile of ammo and access to proper gunsmithing equipment for repairs. Considering what you've said so far money is obviously an issue, so there goes your stockpile. And since you quoted "Animals can't smell you if you're shooting from half a mile away", you don't have the competence to stand downwind or operate the necessary machinery so there goes your maintenance.

As to number 4, I am looking into all of that as for my food, water, ammo pile (heheheehe) I might get probation if I actually said how much I have (It is an insanely high amount of ammo) (1 month of food and water). Keep in mind also I am not alone here I know people who would join me.

As to number 3. I know a place on-line to legally buy a graneide launcher ($200 dollar tax per round but hey graneide launcher)

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

The fact remains you will not be shot by a .50 cal but your chances are actually existent for a car crash. Most .50 cal's are used in the war to kill enemies, unless you decide to fight the US government in the middle east you don't have to worry about getting shot by one.
And betting is no way to get answers. You can't use 'bets' in an argument. I KNOW there are almost 300 million legal guns in the US, and there are 62 million registered vehicles in the U.S. at the current time and approx. 6.4 million unregistered functioning vesicles. Roughly 32% of those two numbers combined would account for Semi-Trucks, construction, heavy machinery vehicles. Stats accurate as of 02/01/05.
Yet car fatalities are far higher than gun fatalities, even disregarding the fact most gun crime is committed in cities by organized crime towards one another using UNREGISTERED guns.
Please tell me why there are more than 4 times more guns than cars yet cars kill many more people, and have no criminal underworld skewing the car's statistics with illegal car killings.

And 'no guns' is not safer, as most gun deaths are crimes using UNREGISTERED guns by criminals that, by definition, WILL NOT obey the murder laws or the gun ban laws. Banning guns will have the same effect as banning weed. It will line the criminal's pocket's smuggling MORE Weapons (or weed)into the country, this time supplying normal homeowners who still want guns(or weed) AS WELL AS criminals.

No guns is safer as these unregistered guns are less likely to go into circulation if ANYONE can buy a gun. I concede ALL the cars in america are more dangerous than ALL the guns in america. ONE car is less dangerous than ONE gun. It doesnt mean these objects are by any means safe, in england we have a lower RATIO of gun deaths to population. I think strict gun control is far safer than lots of guns. If he can own a 50 cal why not a rocket launcher or a mounted machine gun. By your logic no one in the USA is killed by these and so they are safe even though theres NO REASON why he should need or want to own one other than for the sake of it. I get by without a weapon for destroying light armor and shockingly enough so does everyone else. Handguns im ok with but automatic assault rifles and a pair of twelve guages are not self defence. Its a veritible arms race between the criminals and the police and the rest of society. Limit it to hand guns and hunting rifles, like the good old springfield, ive fired one even as a brit and i loved it. I go down to ranges and im a pretty good shot with a Springfield variant we call the number 8, ive got my own saved for me down there, love the feel of the stock, shooting is fun as hell. No one goes on a killing spree or takes hostages with a springfield rifle. Limits, i enjoy the use of guns, ironically, but dont own any lethal or damgerous weapons in my own home. Its a win win. Homeowners here sleep soundly without the knowlage they can kill their naighbour or someone else, why are people so obsessed with having to have one in your own home. The illegal guns trade here is far lower than yours and yours is llegal. You said yourself the unregistered guns acount for a lot of shootings.

 

[not_the_dm]

All the rifles on the list are legal?! Wow...
either this, http://www.snipercentral.com/psg1.htm or this http://www.snipercentral.com/l96a1.htm

 

[TriggerHappyAngel]

Spent the money on a Gaming Console and some good FPS games ... Guns are bad m'kay

What's wrong with guns, it's you right as an American?

What's wrong with guns...?
- Hmmmm, i heard somewhere that they were able to kill people (not sure if it's true though :O)

Sure, cars, power tools, virtually everything heavier than a roll of quarters, and my bare hands can kill people too, so we should outlaw all of them.

Cars kill ten times more people than guns a year! The nature of a gun doesn't make it inherently evil. Good Lord, owning a gun is explicitly permitted in the Bill of Rights!
I'm not saying your view is wrong, because it's America and you get to think what you want. But I do think you should reconsider the mindset that 'If it has the ability to hurt people, then it's wrong.' Since that would outlaw half the things in existence today.

i see your point, but cars aren't made for destroying things(objects or someone's life) and guns are made for just that

 

[||XIII]

As a civilian, let's hope that the OP does not have a "battlefield" at all. We're beyond trying to choose the best gun for a map in CoD4 at this point.

If you're anything other than military and you plan on having a real "urban" battlefield, there's something seriously illegal going on.

That's true, but I remember one of OP's previous posts about his STHF(Shit hits the fan) plan, and I thought it might be a part of that strategy, I totally agree with you though.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Dear Kansas,

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Sincerely,
Kpt. Rob

What? What happened to the right to bear arms?

There is a difference between having the right to bear arms, and saying "hey, everyone should be able to carry any weapon they want." There some weapons which a civilian really doesn't need to be carrying, and sniper rifles fall into that category big time. As a general rule I would say that if a normal person would not use it to hunt, you probably don't need it in your house.

 

[slopeslider]

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The gun is more dangerous than the car. Heres the reasoning. Yes more people are killed every year by cars than barrett 50 cal anti material sniper rifles. Thats because of numbers, there are more cars than barretta 50cals in the general populous. Imagine EVERY car owner had a 50 cal and used them everyday. Now the statistics are comparable, and i bet 50 cal would get a much higher rank.
More people own chainsaws. You cant say your more likely to die from something to say something is safe, its about numbers you are comparing by numbers. A fairer way is to take ONE random car and ONE random barreta 50 cal and see how many lives its ended. Repeat. I bet the 50cal would come on top. There may only be one of a deadly weapon and 5000 cars but the deadly weapon is still more dangerous. Its about how many there are.

The fact remains you will not be shot by a .50 cal but your chances are actually existent for a car crash. Most .50 cal's are used in the war to kill enemies, unless you decide to fight the US government in the middle east you don't have to worry about getting shot by one.
And betting is no way to get answers. You can't use 'bets' in an argument. I KNOW there are almost 300 million legal guns in the US, and there are 62 million registered vehicles in the U.S. at the current time and approx. 6.4 million unregistered functioning vesicles. Roughly 32% of those two numbers combined would account for Semi-Trucks, construction, heavy machinery vehicles. Stats accurate as of 02/01/05.
Yet car fatalities are far higher than gun fatalities, even disregarding the fact most gun crime is committed in cities by organized crime towards one another using UNREGISTERED guns.
Please tell me why there are more than 4 times more guns than cars yet cars kill many more people, and have no criminal underworld skewing the car's statistics with illegal car killings.

And 'no guns' is not safer, as most gun deaths are crimes using UNREGISTERED guns by criminals that, by definition, WILL NOT obey the murder laws or the gun ban laws. Banning guns will have the same effect as banning weed. It will line the criminal's pocket's smuggling MORE Weapons (or weed)into the country, this time supplying normal homeowners who still want guns(or weed) AS WELL AS criminals.

No guns is safer as these unregistered guns are less likely to go into circulation if ANYONE can buy a gun. I concede ALL the cars in america are more dangerous than ALL the guns in america. ONE car is less dangerous than ONE gun. It doesnt mean these objects are by any means safe, in england we have a lower RATIO of gun deaths to population. I think strict gun control is far safer than lots of guns. If he can own a 50 cal why not a rocket launcher or a mounted machine gun. By your logic no one in the USA is killed by these and so they are safe even though theres NO REASON why he should need or want to own one other than for the sake of it. I get by without a weapon for destroying light armor and shockingly enough so does everyone else. Handguns im ok with but automatic assault rifles and a pair of twelve guages are not self defence. Its a veritible arms race between the criminals and the police and the rest of society. Limit it to hand guns and hunting rifles, like the good old springfield, ive fired one even as a brit and i loved it. I go down to ranges and im a pretty good shot with a Springfield variant we call the number 8, ive got my own saved for me down there, love the feel of the stock, shooting is fun as hell. No one goes on a killing spree or takes hostages with a springfield rifle. Limits, i enjoy the use of guns, ironically, but dont own any lethal or damgerous weapons in my own home. Its a win win.

If 1 car is less dangerous than 1 gun, how do all the cars end up more dangerous than all the guns? A person has the ability to end several people's lives in a second ON ACCIDENT while driving a car as well as on purpose. With a gun, that only happens ON PURPOSE, you don't 'accidentally' shoot a minivan full of kids to death.
The fact is banning cars would save more lives than banning guns, yet no one wants to do anything about it. You'd rather go after a guy who MIGHT shoot someone rather than the idiots running each other over on a daily basis? The fact is with nearly 300 million guns in the counrty and most of the deaths are criminal murders, as opposed to 'accidents' (more like negligence') with cars killing more; Gun owners are technically more responsible and less prone to 'accident' than all these texting distracted drivers on the roads.
A 12 gauge IS for hunting or self defense. Maybe they upgraded and now they have 2. And mostly gun collectors have fully automatic rifles.
I'd ask for you to show me the results of all this 'possible violence'with all these crazy americans and their obscene amount of guns but I already now it doesn't happen, the vast majority of violence is from criminals using illegal guns, typically handguns (which you support).
No criminal goes and legally buys and registers a gun to turn around and use it in a crime. They use cheaper illegal ones that are untraceable.
Like I said there is NO reason to own a sports-car yet no one questions their legality.
You wouldn't like it if someone said you can't get a car with over 200hp, because they feel that's unreasonable. Or you shouldn't play more than 3 hours of games a day, that's unnecessary.

A family sword over the fireplace is 'unnecessary', what if you wanted to hurt someone! We should ban swords, there too dangerous according to me and what I think! The Hell with actual facts!. And you can't make the world 'no guns' anymore than you can make the world 'no drugs'.

Also UK and US are not really comparable, UK is more homogenous, US has border problems and crime problems with illegal guns that An Island nation doesn't. It'd be more accurate to compare rural stats from Amerca to your rural stats, you'd find they aren't all that different. We have gang-infested cities left and right where the vast majority of 'gun violence' takes place, and no amount of gun legislation will disarm the illegal weapons flowing into the country. The US is not even 300 years old yet, it is still an growing country working out it's problems that only 50 years ago decided to stop being douches legally to minorities. The Supreme Court ruled it's not the police's OBLIGATION to assist you in ANY Way, IE If you call them because someone's breaking into your house to kill you in rape you the second time this week, and the police don't even come at all, they are in NO WAY liable for ANYTHING. If people here want to protect themselves from the obscene crime rates, I say let them, the police CANNOT handle it all.
I feel I've derailed this topic enough already, so OP, I apologize. I'll stop.

 

[Gilhelmi]

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Currently one of the most accurate sniper systems is the Barrett M-107, combined with Model 99 .416 round. Accurate up to 2500+ yards.

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/technology/watch/v2374546hFCcN98D#

Nice I like the range but the cost of the ammo is making me lean towards a smaller caliber.

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Its not fair, I love guns and cant get them in the UK. Bloody lucky Americans lol.

OT from a fan boy perspective I fucking love the barrett 50cal but from a practical perspective I guess the bravo is the better option.

Edit: Bollocks to what I said. Get this.

http://www.vincelewis.net/20mm.html

I have always felt sorry for the British, a century ago you could buy the most modern weapon and carry it, there was almost no crime back then. Now you can not get or carry one (easily) and crime is relatively higher. Also, there is nothing like going to the range for an afternoon and shooting a couple hundred rounds at targets.

 

[chenry]

Are you a sniper? No?

Then it's called a hunting rifle.

Get a Remington model 700 and be done with it. Unless you're planning on hunting grizzly bears or semi-trucks you have no need of a .50cal rifle.

Or hell, just buy a .22lr for plinking and target shooting.

 

[noogai18]

You might just want to go with something smaller and cheaper. Yes, the Barrett is a military grade rifle, but it's overpowered for any conceivable civilian use.

The Bravo 51 is better, although depending on the price you could get a much better deal on a Remington 700 from Gander Mountain or Bass Pro Shops or another sport goods store. The 30.06 caliber version is good for hunting, and the ammunition isn't exactly cheap, but since you won't need too much ammunition, it shouldn't be a problem.

Why are you interested in purchasing a high powered rifle, anyways?

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

I want to get a new sniper rifle

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

OT: I'm no gun expert, so I can't reeally contribute.

 

[O maestre]

the hell do you need a sniper rifle for?

 

[Gilhelmi]

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by a bolt action hunting rifle jury rig a elongated barrel and add the silencer use higher calibre rounds to compensate for the silencer the by a wider reciever for the rounds amnd make sure you have about three weeks spare time on you hands to train to use it

I do not like the idea of 'jury rigging' a rifle. I just do not trust that it would not explode. Also, no silencer (Ill just put on ear protection), I am shooting from far enough away that by the time they get to me I am already gone. Then again the people next door might appreciate me having a silencer.

 

[Gilhelmi]

Why are you interested in purchasing a high powered rifle, anyways?

For the fun of it, and to brag that I can hit a target at 800 meters.

 

[Yrgen]

Whatever you choose, remember to use adequate hearing protection.

Shooting is fun and all, but someday you'll go bored with it. Not having tinnitus never gets boring.

 

[WafflesToo]

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If you need a poll to decide which high-powered, quasi-legal murdermachine you just can't live without then I recommend a black powder sharps carbine with the stock attached the wrong way.

 

[Gilhelmi]

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by a bolt action hunting rifle jury rig a elongated barrel and add the silencer use higher calibre rounds to compensate for the silencer the by a wider reciever for the rounds amnd make sure you have about three weeks spare time on you hands to train to use it

I do not like the idea of 'jury rigging' a rifle. I just do not trust that it would not explode. Also, no silencer (Ill just put on ear protection), I am shooting from far enough away that by the time they get to me I am already gone. Then again the people next door might appreciate me having a silencer.

why if you do it right it works perfectly fine and the silencer is really useful to not make anything near you that you didnt notice deosnt bolt and run screwing your aim out of shock (it happens more than i'd like)

That is true, I did not think about other critters. I do not go hunting as often as I should.