Poll: I was thinking about the smoking Warnings (Smokers and non-smokers included)

[Devil's Due]

Is it wrong that I was more entertained by fact no. 4 than anything else? I had to tell my girlfriend that one so she could make it more fair in bed

As for the thread at hand, possibly. However, I do not know what smokers care about in such anti-smoking messages. I've never smoked nor date girls that smoke and never will. It may be possible that this will give a bigger anti-smoking picture, but like I said, don't know what they care about in this area. Oh well.

 

[Jack_Uzi]

I smoke and I know it's unhealthy. I don't need any stickers on my packs because I am not retarded, at least not according to my wall sockets. I've tried to quit a few times and probably will do again in the future (I like to keep that one as noncommittal as possible right now). Maybe they should put some stickers on my bag of fries too because it could cause my veines to clog up. I could also die of:

- Stress.
- Things in food that might not be healthy that I am not aware of.
- Being hit by a drunk drunk/unaware driver.
- Trip over something and break my neck.
- Being beaten or stabbet by some freaks.
- Things that are already inherit in my genes I don't know of.

.. I could go on but you get my drift I guess. So given, It's a factor that certainly wouldn't pass the test of being the next best drug for immortality, but there is also a aspect called quality in life. If you go and worry about all these things, you only cloud your mind with some other fumes.

*Edit: I am sorry that I did not quite respond to your question correctly. Now for my answer: I smoke quite a lot and still don't have any problems with my cyclops. Could be, but then again, you don't want to know what kind of pesticide goes on bananas!

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

As for smoking under high ceilings - Smoke rises so it shouldn't be all that bad.

Smoke is, to quote Wikipedia, "a collection of airborne solid and liquid particulates and gases." It rises because it's warmer than the surrounding air. What do you reckon happens when it cools?

I remember cleaning out my father's house after he died. You could see an outline on the walls where all the pictures used to hang and the furniture used to sit. Most of which was below head level. The brown stuff I had to scrub off the walls was the non-gaseous part of his cigarette smoke.

 

[Hammer's Girl]

As for smoking under high ceilings - Smoke rises so it shouldn't be all that bad.

Smoke is, to quote Wikipedia, "a collection of airborne solid and liquid particulates and gases." It rises because it's warmer than the surrounding air. What do you reckon happens when it cools?

I remember cleaning out my father's house after he died. You could see an outline on the walls where all the pictures used to hang and the furniture used to sit. Most of which was below head level. The brown stuff I had to scrub off the walls was the non-gaseous part of his cigarette smoke.

I agree nicotine stains are gross. My point was more that smoking under a high ceiling is not that much worse than anywhere else.

 

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

I agree nicotine stains are gross. My point was more that smoking under a high ceiling is not that much worse than anywhere else.

Oh, agreed. Better than low ceilings anyway. The more volume for dissipation, the better. I thought you were hinting that smoke rose and stayed there forevermore.

A tangent but related, I had a professor once at the University of Memphis (of Exercise Science or some such bunk) who declared to the class that the greenhouse effect is caused when "heavy gases sit on top of hot air and won't let it rise."

 

[Pariah87]

...even in the privacy of their own homes because I say they should!!!11!" ...

Read my posts above. If it truly only harmed the user, I doubt you'd see nearly so much of an uproar. You really only smoke alone in private and your emissions never go anywhere near anyone else who hasn't made an informed decision to inhale them? I disbelieve that.

Maybe I'm one of the few exceptions to the rule but I either smoke in my car, my own back garden, or at work in a designated area 50 feet from the door with sod all protection from the rain, in order to enjoy my habit. There is only one person I smoke around who is not a smoker himself as he says he has no problem with it.

In a way I do agree with some points, particularly around children or people eating, I don't do it and I don't like to see people do it, but to cast out all smokers as lepers because of the possible risk to the minority (in some cases, I'll get to that point next) or because they don't like the smell.

Take the smoking ban in pubs. A complete band was passed. Why was it not left to the owner of the establishment to chose if they should impose the ban, with say a decent tax break if the did? This would allow other pubs to go about their business, and it's possible we wouldn't have seen so many close down over the last couple of years. Some people might have better health down the line, but now instead we have publicans going bust, buildings which have stood for far longer than we've been alive closing down and falling apart. One pub in my town, which had been there for over a hundred years had to close, and was bulldozed.

Another, a pub I used to frequent often before the ban was enforced, had a large regular customer base of whom the vast majority were smokers. Any given night you'd have 30 odd people in there, and I'd say 25 of them, including staff would be smoking. In that particular case, was it right to cater for the needs of the 5 non smokers instead of the 25 smokers who frequented the place daily. Back then you could spend a winters evening nice and warm, some rock music over the juke box, play a game of pool, darts whatever, have a pint, have a fag, nobody ever complained and it was a nice place to go. Now, it's dead during the week. When there are people there, especially when it's cold people continuously complain about the back door opening and closing constantly letting the cold in because people have to go out back and smoke there. Again, this only works for this pub, I'm sure others will have benefitted from the ban and surely welcomed it, but by dividing everyone, the atmosphere was changed.

Smokers are looked down apon like they are garbage, we view the non smokers with disdain, other people hate someone else for whatever reason, all in all our sense of community is being taken away, our sense of freedom.

Sorry for derailing the thread OP, my rant isn't just about peoples views towards smokers it's about a lot more I see happening on a daily basis, smoking is just the one that impacts me the most.

 

[Skratt]

I don't think anyone should smoke, but only because it destroys your body slowly and I think its a shame.

But, if you want to do it, whatever, its your life do what you want. Just stand away from the doors please, it's not any fucking warmer right next to the doors than it is 50 feet away.

 

[kickyourass]

Well it's not like I needed ANOTHER reason to not smoke, I mean with all the smelling like shit, cancer, and mentally scarring pictures they show you in health class, I'm already scared off the stuff.

As for this specific problem, it wouldn't effect me since I don't get any loving, but I'd rather not add to the problems I will inevitably have when I eventually do get a sex life.

 

[RowdyRodimus]

I look at it the same way Bill Hicks (who died of non-lung cancer being a heavy smoker when Andy Kauffman, a non smoker, died of lung cancer. Irony. It's what's for dinner) looked at the warning labels. When I go into the store I just ask for a pack of low birth weights, much rather have those than the cancer ones.

As for the people who hate smoking and in some cases smokers themselves for doing it, let's ban it unless it's in the home, but to be fair let's ban everything that annoys or causes a threat to anyone. In my case, let's ban cell phones. More people die because of car wrecks caused by people on cell phones than die from second hand smoke. Is that not fair? Tough, neither is telling me I can't smoke (in some cases people have been fined for smoking in their own yard because a neighbor complained about it).

 

[manythings]

If someone could make all ciggarettes smell like cigars I think that'd turn off almost everyone from smoking.

If it smelled like good pipe tobacco a lot of people might smoke more. My grandad used to buy the serious stuff and, even though I was asthmatic, I liked the smell.

 

[Verlander]

In the UK that is widely known, and is on cigarette packets. Smoking is pretty pointless anyway, you can get a better hit of other things that don't stink up the place

 

[manythings]

...even in the privacy of their own homes because I say they should!!!11!" ...

Read my posts above. If it truly only harmed the user, I doubt you'd see nearly so much of an uproar. You really only smoke alone in private and your emissions never go anywhere near anyone else who hasn't made an informed decision to inhale them? I disbelieve that.

Maybe I'm one of the few exceptions to the rule but I either smoke in my car, my own back garden, or at work in a designated area 50 feet from the door with sod all protection from the rain, in order to enjoy my habit. There is only one person I smoke around who is not a smoker himself as he says he has no problem with it.

In a way I do agree with some points, particularly around children or people eating, I don't do it and I don't like to see people do it, but to cast out all smokers as lepers because of the possible risk to the minority (in some cases, I'll get to that point next) or because they don't like the smell.

Take the smoking ban in pubs. A complete band was passed. Why was it not left to the owner of the establishment to chose if they should impose the ban, with say a decent tax break if the did? This would allow other pubs to go about their business, and it's possible we wouldn't have seen so many close down over the last couple of years. Some people might have better health down the line, but now instead we have publicans going bust, buildings which have stood for far longer than we've been alive closing down and falling apart. One pub in my town, which had been there for over a hundred years had to close, and was bulldozed.

Another, a pub I used to frequent often before the ban was enforced, had a large regular customer base of whom the vast majority were smokers. Any given night you'd have 30 odd people in there, and I'd say 25 of them, including staff would be smoking. In that particular case, was it right to cater for the needs of the 5 non smokers instead of the 25 smokers who frequented the place daily. Back then you could spend a winters evening nice and warm, some rock music over the juke box, play a game of pool, darts whatever, have a pint, have a fag, nobody ever complained and it was a nice place to go. Now, it's dead during the week. When there are people there, especially when it's cold people continuously complain about the back door opening and closing constantly letting the cold in because people have to go out back and smoke there. Again, this only works for this pub, I'm sure others will have benefitted from the ban and surely welcomed it, but by dividing everyone, the atmosphere was changed.

Smokers are looked down apon like they are garbage, we view the non smokers with disdain, other people hate someone else for whatever reason, all in all our sense of community is being taken away, our sense of freedom.

Sorry for derailing the thread OP, my rant isn't just about peoples views towards smokers it's about a lot more I see happening on a daily basis, smoking is just the one that impacts me the most.

I have no issue with this post since it is a thought out piece with a genuine opinion and not a "Smokerz are the gay"/"Non-Smoking is facism" knee-jerk bullshit so many other people insist on treating like a real opinion.

 

[manythings]

I look at it the same way Bill Hicks (who died of non-lung cancer being a heavy smoker when Andy Kauffman, a non smoker, died of lung cancer. Irony. It's what's for dinner) looked at the warning labels. When I go into the store I just ask for a pack of low birth weights, much rather have those than the cancer ones.

As for the people who hate smoking and in some cases smokers themselves for doing it, let's ban it unless it's in the home, but to be fair let's ban everything that annoys or causes a threat to anyone. In my case, let's ban cell phones. More people die because of car wrecks caused by people on cell phones than die from second hand smoke. Is that not fair? Tough, neither is telling me I can't smoke (in some cases people have been fined for smoking in their own yard because a neighbor complained about it).

Pancreatic cancer and it sure sounded unpleasant... "I'm Yul Brynner, I'm dead now..."

More on point I do think legislating what people can do at home is bullshit of the highest order and I agree with people getting fucked by the law for in car cell phonery.

 

[Zorg Machine]

I don't smoke. I might try one at some point put never more than one.
Incidentally, I feel more inclined to smoke weed than tobacco.

 

[Valkyrie101]

In France, cigarette packets have warnings such as "smoking leads to slow and painful death". Everyone still smokes, though.

 

[SnipErlite]

I mean hell, at least weed and coke give you cool ideas, and PCP makes you a superhero. What does tobacco do for you?

Hahaha quote of the day. Brilliant (Y)

OT: Yeah if the government wanted to really put people off smoking (as well as ousting them from all public buildings) then the penis figures would probably put people off. Nobody wants a smaller penis.

 

[manythings]

I mean hell, at least weed and coke give you cool ideas, and PCP makes you a superhero. What does tobacco do for you?

Hahaha quote of the day. Brilliant (Y)

OT: Yeah if the government wanted to really put people off smoking (as well as ousting them from all public buildings) then the penis figures would probably put people off. Nobody wants a smaller penis.

I'm willing to bet somewhere in the internet wilderness there is a website devoted to penile shrinkage techniques... The horror, the horror, the horror...

 

[Orbert]

Well one thing I don't think smokers realize is that the smell extends well behind where they can smell it, because they are used to the smell. It goes well beyond where you see it dissipate too. Most of the time I can smell smoke I can't actually see it with my eyes.

Another gripe about smokers I forgot to include in my previous post was the cigarette butts! I know some people are good about it, like my co-workers, they have a butt can that they take with them when they go smoke so they don't toss the butts everywhere, but many people around campus just throw their butts on the ground, sometimes without stamping them out before they walk away. Since most of the smokers smoke in the same areas, the ground gets covered in butts. I think littering in the first place is completely stupid (sometimes it gets to me enough that I have to pick up a potato chip bag or discarded pack of cigarettes and put it in the nearby garbage can), and I hate smoking, so littering and smoking together is just the worst. It's like they're turning this beautiful university campus into a freaking garbage dump, it's gross.

 

[Varrdy]

I personally think that while smoking is anyones choice, I don't like to be around it. My Grandmother died of smoking-induced lung-cancer and I've already had one collapsed lung (not related to smoking) so they are my main two reasons not to start...not that I want to.

Smokers can get on their high-horse so easily about others objecting to it but what smokers have to remember is that while it's perfectly legal to smoke, they are the ones creating the problem for someone else and it is totally unfair to inflict the consequences of your choice on someone else. I rejoiced the day the smoking [in public places] ban came in because it meant I could go to the pub and not come home with streaming eyes and a smell about my clothes that required near Chernobyl-intensive levels of fumigation.

The only time I would remove myself from a smokers presence rather than tell them to get the fuck away from me would be if I were in their house / flat / other place of residence. I had to once because the amount they were smoking made me ill. However I knew they smoked and it was my decision to visit and so I was the one compelled to leave.

I refuse to preach too much about the health implications because, while I don't touch smokes or drugs, I do drink a lot of lager and my maxim is "it's never too early".

Smokers: Spark it up if you want, I don't really care but you have to expect a lotta flak if you let your vice negatively affect others - even more so if you don't [appear to] care.

Shit I just realised I haven't really touched on the OP's question about smoking giving you a wonky willy yet!

If my main two reasons were not enough, the thought of being branded Captain Flaccidus - Vanguard of the Droop would seal the deal, no question!

I wonder if Labour ever wasted any of our money on a study to see if smokers buy more viagra than non-smokers...probably but I don't give enough of a toss to find out.

Wardy

 

[Ironic Pirate]

A centimeter? That would just help me fit it in my pants better, not that is spends much time there.

This post is supposed to be read in the Duffman's voice, by the way.

And frankly, as long as they don't smoke near me I don't mind. It just smells, especialy when there's a whole bunch of them...