Poll: If a friend/acquaintance of yours committed a victimless crime would you report him to the police?

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Zorg Machine

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Xvito said:
Cocal said:
Xvito said:
Um... Crimes can't be victimless... That's why crimes are crimes, because there are victims...
Not all crimes have a victim, like parking in a target parking lot over night is still a "crime" and you get fined, but technically you are the offender and the victim too so, yes they often have victims but they don't necessarily HAVE to have one.

Also in response to OP,
Hell no, if he didn't kill someone, and even then I'd protect them and go down with them. Any one who wouldn't is not a true friend.
Um... How are you the victim if you park in someone else's parking spot. Also, that crime has a victim: the one who owns the parking spot, since you're stealing from him/her...

Also, friends don't let friends kill people...
so if your friend would park in someone else's parking spot because if they didn't make it to work on time he would be fired, and the guy who owns it doesn't show up and there were no markings on the ground or anything, you would tell the police?
 

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cabooze said:
Xvito said:
Cocal said:
Xvito said:
Um... Crimes can't be victimless... That's why crimes are crimes, because there are victims...
Not all crimes have a victim, like parking in a target parking lot over night is still a "crime" and you get fined, but technically you are the offender and the victim too so, yes they often have victims but they don't necessarily HAVE to have one.

Also in response to OP,
Hell no, if he didn't kill someone, and even then I'd protect them and go down with them. Any one who wouldn't is not a true friend.
Um... How are you the victim if you park in someone else's parking spot. Also, that crime has a victim: the one who owns the parking spot, since you're stealing from him/her...

Also, friends don't let friends kill people...
so if your friend would park in someone else's parking spot because if they didn't make it to work on time he would be fired, and the guy who owns it doesn't show up and there were no markings on the ground or anything, you would tell the police?
You really should learn to read...

I never said I'd turn them in for breaking some stupid law that some stupid old men have conjured up... Did I?
 

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I don't see how jaywalking is victimizing anybody. Sure, if you get hit by a car for it, but thats the risk you take.

Anyways, yeah I would look the other way since they would do the same.
You victimize yourself by putting your life at risk, and you victimize everyone in traffic by inconveniencing them and slowing them down.
 

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For having drugs and screwing prostitutes, no.
Illegal weapons on the other hand, yes I would. After I've told him to get rid of it, though.
 

Oolinthu

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DannyG259 said:
Oolinthu said:
Xvito said:
Um... Crimes can't be victimless... That's why crimes are crimes, because there are victims...
"Victimless crime" refers to an act that's illegal and therefore a crime, but doesn't involve a victim. Like, for example, smoking a joint. Pretty simple.

And to answer the question, no, I wouldn't. I'm no rat. My friend would have do something genuinely terrible, like murder or rape someone, for me to consider snitching them out. Not only is squealing against my principles, there's also the old adage about snitches ending up in stitches to consider.
I think he's talking about how you, yourself would be a victim of your own crime.
(As in how drugs can harm your own body)
That's just it. 'Victimizing' yourself is not a sufficient condition for something to be considered a crime by any reasonable definition. In an ostensibly free society, people have rights over their lives and bodies, including the right to hurt themselves if they so choose. If an act can be considered criminal because it harms your body, then by logical extent things like eating fast food and junk food, failing to exercise regularly, or staying up all night to get something done should all be criminalized.

That aside, there are things that are considered criminal that hurt no one, not even the perpetrator. Like the oral sex that someone mentioned earlier in the thread.

And, regarding the amusing exchange between The Volume and several other posters in the thread:

Don't you idiots know a troll when you read one?
 

mike1921

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Oolinthu said:
And, regarding the amusing exchange between The Volume and several other posters in the thread:

Don't you idiots know a troll when you read one?
I've seen quite a few people who seriously have opinions more ridiculous than hers. and it isn't imposible someone like that made it on the escapist so, and I know how annoying it is to be called a troll when you weren't trolling, so not necisarily a troll