Poll: If female characters were given an advantage....

[Aerograt]

Are the stats cooking and cleaning? Then I'd praise it for its realism!

Wow, classy.

 

[PipPup]

I think it would be a cool idea just to see how some players would react psychologically to it,but other than that it would just be a weird disadvantage that doesn't make much sense for a game.

 

[Pirakahunter788]

Sorry if this has been previously mentioned...
But this was the case in Gunz: The Duel.

Female characters had significantly smaller hitboxes compared to the male characters (at least when I played a couple years ago) and their animation timings could be used to abuse the walljump/slash thing better.

So all in all, at least then, female characters were better suited to every aspect of the game.

Darn it. Ninja'd.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Know what would happen? Guys would play as girls and not complain about it...

 

[sketch_zeppelin]

...so its a game about wonder woman? I wouldn't mind playing it so long as it works like it does in our reality, if women are the dominat sex then men need to be treated as precious. how that translates to a game is that male characters are always mission critical characters, they level up slower and can't go toe to toe with a female character of the same level but if they get blown away its game over.

 

[Bocaj2000]

I would like to see some actual differences in women and men in video games, but not sexism. The idea is silly. Now what would be cool to see is some actual real differences between men and women in games, like for instance women tend to be more dexterous than men. Men are generally stronger. Women's brains are generally wired better for fluency and communication. Men's brains are generally wired better for spatial recognition and mental rotation of objects. They are rather small and general differences but it would be sort of interesting to see a well researched game add small bonuses (not penalties) to characters based on gender or even nationality and race. It would be difficult ground to tread: a bonus called "All Asians are Great at Math" is obviously racist were as a bonus called "Confucian Legacy" that grants a +1 to memory would be just fine.

Personally it would be nice to play a character and get a few miscellaneous bonuses based on character generation.

Ex. A Male Mixed/Hispanic American who is a Scholar.

"American Ingenuity" America's greatest resource has always been diversity and creative thinkers. +1 Cunning
"Gifts of Your Ancestors" Those who came before you lived through persecution and racism, not only surviving but leaving their children a chance at a better life. You have learned from the stories of those who set out before you, their gift shall not be in vain. +1 to Wisdom
"Visualization" Chance gave you an Y chromosome, and a small advantage solving difficult problems. +1 Cunning.

Awards for existence. Nice thought. Every character gets to choose from a hand full of special, and small, bonuses.

Edit: Thats me in this imaginary game.

Could not agree more. Right now, the industry is starting small; with Brink, smaller characters are faster but don't take bullets as well. For the difference with women, I would suggest an accuracy bonus and a smaller hit box at the expense less speed and less power.

As far as leveling goes for rpgs, I would have them level up faster initially, but then at a certain peak, slow it down. Ideally, the men and women would hit the max level with the same amount of xp. The men would have a more consistant leveling curve in comparison.

As far as stats for the rpg, and example would be this: Woman- +1 wisdom, -1 strength. Men- +1 int, -1 dext/agil. Adding background info to change the stats would be awesome as well, like you suggested. I would prefer to have one additive trait and one subtractive trait. For example: childhood= magician- +5 points to be split between dext/agil and charisma. Easily bruised- -3 to stam/end.

The OP, however, suggested is stupid. This topic was created for the sole purpose to get a rise out of people. that's trolling. I see your bullshit OP and fuck you.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

Is this supposed to be an attack on Brink, as in making people think about if the situation were reversed? Because I'm guessing few people would be male in such a game, essentially meaning that the game has no men. That's a clever idea, but because I'm not sure of your intentions with this thread, I can't really make a definitive comment.

 

[ViaGalactica]

Would you guys still call it 'propaganda' if it were the other way around? Would it still be pandering to the male demographic if it were the male characters who had an advantage? I really do wonder.

As to the OP, honestly, it doesn't sound fun. Everyone would play as female because it'd be easier. It might work better though if the character who levels up slower gets a bonus after doing so. Otherwise it'd just be...bad.

If the purpose of the game was to create controversy then it should simply shift the roles that men and women tend to play on the battlefield. Make the women the offense and the men the defense. Instead of having the men charging while the women provide back-up from the distance, switch that up. It could be fun.

 

[moosek]

It think Elder Scrolls will give minimal stat buffs depending on gender. This would only come into play when min/max-ing is involved, so it otherwise doesn't matter.

Why would that crap even matter? Offsetting the abilities of a virtual avatar is only a forced representation of the unevenness of the sexes. They're game characters. If it's an action game, they should be badass. If it's a horror-adventure, both sexes are going to be weak and defenseless and it's going to be a boring game. Suck it Amnesia!

 

[The Apothecarry]

I could care less. Does it have a good story?

 

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life]

Affirmative Action doesn't work this way. This would be a game for Feminazis, and Feminazis are just as bad, and even worse in some aspects, as Chauvinists.

 

[Mordwyl]

The only way I see this as viable is if the game world is mostly populated by females, particularly having them as the only playable characters.

 

[Farseer Lolotea]

Would you guys still call it 'propaganda' if it were the other way around? Would it still be pandering to the male demographic if it were the male characters who had an advantage?

I can't speak for anyone else on this subject.

But in my opinion? Yes, it would. (Hence, my previous comment about two wrongs not making a right.)

 

[Javarock]

Graphics arn't to large in the games equation, At least for me... Then again im an exception as I enjoy dwarf fortress

Anywase regarding the topic as I failed to quete the correct thing may I ask what the graphics?

Spoiler

ASCII dreams are terrible... They make you feel sick

 

[Liquid Ocelot]

I'd call it unbalanced sexism. Of course, then I'd be flamed by the crazy* feminists.


*Note: I believe that some feminists are not crazy, but I mean the ones that are like, "OMG A MAN HELD A DOOR FOR ME? I DON'T NEED A FUCKING MAN. FUCK YOU, PIG!"

 

[Impluse_101]

Unbalanced, no thank you...

If we're on about the whole treated unjustly in the past thing, we all need to stop trying to compensate for the past, but rather make sure we're all perfectly equal in the future... No one should get money or benefits for something that happened to their fathers father, but they should be able to expect the world to learn from whichever injustice that was caused and make sure to balance it out for the future.

Personally though I'm completely unable to understand any bias people have based on race and gender... I wish I did understand, cause apparently it's how most people think ><.

Agreed. You're not gonna fix anything by adding the same amount of past stupidity with another figure.

Just make a game where you think this fits with that dynamic person in your game.

And as for not being able to understand...I'd consider that a blessing, because I certainly don't like knowing what people mean when they're being bias.....*sigh*

 

[BGH122]

I don't think you understand the word "feminist."

I don't think a lot of third wave 'feminists' understand the word feminist. They seem to think it means 'misandry'. A shame really because it utterly spits in the face of everything the previous waves fought to achieve.

OP: Well I obviously wouldn't play it. I won't be party to some nonsense game that attempts to stir up controversy as its sole means of sale. I similarly wouldn't play the hypothetical games 'Rape Squad' or 'Jihad'.

Would you guys still call it 'propaganda' if it were the other way around? Would it still be pandering to the male demographic if it were the male characters who had an advantage? I really do wonder.

If it were handled as Mount & Blade handles it then no. Mount & Blade makes medieval era women socially disadvantaged i.e. male Lords will be less likely to accept the player's right to rule etc, but women still have the ability to become just as strong as male avatars. This makes sense historically.

If it were 'herp derp women are useless lololol' as this hypothetical game appears to be the mirror of then yes, I'd hate it.

 

[Pinstar]

I'm all for gender based stat modifiers, as long as they are roughly equal. The old Male=+1 Strength, Female=+1 dex concept from D&D never bothered me. But when you specifically make one gender OP over another, it isn't a good thing. That goes for Female > Male or vice versa.

 

[Farseer Lolotea]

I don't think a lot of third wave 'feminists' understand the word feminist. They seem to think it means 'misandry'.

It ain't feminists, of any "wave," interpreting the word as such. It's the sort of individual who thinks any accusation of sexism, ever, merits the invocation of Godwin's Law.

Not to say that there aren't some female-chauvinist sows out there. But blaming "feminism" being equated with "misandry" on feminists is at best inaccurate and at worst disingenuous.

I'm all for gender based stat modifiers, as long as they are roughly equal. The old Male=+1 Strength, Female=+1 dex concept from D&D never bothered me. But when you specifically make one gender OP over another, it isn't a good thing. That goes for Female > Male or vice versa.

Thank you. Sex differences are one thing; making one sex outright better is another altogether.

 

[GreyKnight3445]

COD:BLOPS sold in droves and reviewers treated it like it was jesus.
as far as I`m concerned, this new game is just a feminist fantasist wank game.