Poll: If Jesus ran for president, would you vote for him?

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ImSkeletor

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Yes I would vote for Jesus.

Off topic: Why does nearly everyone on the Escapist think conservatives are friggen Boogeymen who want to take away your rights and club baby seals and that liberals are the shining becon of hope to the downtrodden masses? Why do you guys have to pretend things are so black and white? Can you not accept that there is an equaly valid oppinion that differs from yours? You make comments about how mad conservatives will be when Jesus comes and learns that they were wrong. That is freaking rediculous and very insulting.
 

Ben Legend

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No! Are you mad. With his powers, imagine the terror he would inflict. He would create an army of flaming cats with omni-potence.
 

gbemery

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
I'm pretty sure that "gays are bad" wouldn't be in his speeches. Outside of that, I really don't think I can fill in fictional characters in a voting ballot.

Mod Edit - Stating Jesus is a fictional character does nothing for the OP but does become trolling.
With all respect good mod, just my opinion on this, I don't feel that is 100% definable trolling. If I didn't believe in Jesus and my true belief was that he is just as fictional as a character in a book that is my right. It might be flame bait but you can't know for sure. It might truly just be his/her opinion. Why should non believers be forced to respect those, who do believe, if they are constantly censored and ridiculed for speaking of Jesus as a "character"? FYI I am religious.
EDIT: If anyone should be "modded" it should be those who either 1. take the flame bait directly or 2. those who attack someone else's opinion and assume that since they don't believe the same that the op shouldn't be allowed to share theirs.
EDIT: His/her mentioning of a "fictional" character did contribute to the OP's post by stating why he wouldn't vote for Jesus in a presidential election. It was rather clever to.

OP: No I wouldn't because I have seen all the problems that come with people mixing church and state on more levels of just "in God we trust" etc. My hometown actually got scorned nationally about 10 years back for a christian symbol (jesus fish) on our city flag. You would still have people who would think he was not really Jesus and think he was just a nut or false (even some Christians) and revolt or try to attack. In all honesty though would you really think Jesus would want to be a politician? :p
 

Browbeat

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Nope.

Not born Stateside, so cannot be elected as President.

Not representing any of the houses based on ideological division, seeing as their agendas steeply lean on his views of human equality, so he would be an independent.

His ideals of humility, love, and goodness (and worship) shoehorn him into an identity that would largely be claimed as 'Commie' (then again, the text implies he WAS a Proto-Communist: everyone gets along, shares, loves one another, and strives for the betterment of all? Anger against exploitation and powerlust? Greed and idolatry as big no-nos/primary marketing devices in America?... C'mon)

Jesus could not successfully run as President for the United States.

Nor should he have to.

As a sage, prophet, or even son of God (if you like), his power is over the hearts of people, and if he decided that a mortal proxy was needed, a third party would emerge in his name, with a chosen disciple at its head - one who shared Jesus' views in the most parallel fashion. Jesus never craved the limelight or direct leadership, just to teach and improve the lives of those around.

That's what I've been able to extract from the data presented. Aside from the 'dying for mankind's sins,' which provokes other involving conversations.
 

GroovyV

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Bisexual, cheating, stealing, slanderous, coveting dude right here, and I'd probably still for Him.
Probably.
 

Sensenmann

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I would. Besides being a christian, the Jewish nation asked for a king in the Old Testament and their kings were pretty bad to them. Despite the good things, Saul enlisted a lot of them into the army, Solomon enslaved the Israelites, kings after him were generally corrupt.

If Jesus did return and run for president, there would be no wrong convictions, no corruption, there'd be miracles and economic happenings which shouldn't naturally do so with him in rule.
 

Bradd94

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No; one word.
Secularism

I mean, i'm sure he'd be the most honest politician we'll ever know; but I can't see him being able to adapt properly to situations of War.
 

darkstarangel

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Heck yeah. It would be nice to have someone in power whose honest, tells it as it is & does'nt feel the need to kiss any ones arse. Infact, sticking it to the stuck ups was what got him nailed in the first place. I think today his only worry would be impeachment which is pretty tame compared to the middle east.

Also given his talent for miracles we'd have free medical, food, wine, resurrection etc. And who needs nukes & an army of gun happy marines when you got Big Daddy G upstairs with an army of Angels where just one can annihilate a third of the earth.

JC's got my vote.
 

hawkeye52

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Trolldor said:
Tanfastic said:
samaugsch said:
Tanfastic said:
Lol @ people saying he didn't exist. He was a real person, whether he did all the stuff that is written about is up for debate.

OT: Sure, he's Jesus and stuff.
Well, if you don't believe in God, you can't believe in Jesus, either, since he is God.
Jesus was a person just as much as Muhammad was. What people don't believe is if they were gods and prophets, only ignorant people don't believe the historical evidence of a person named Jesus, claiming to be a god/prophet, didn't exist. He was a person, just his godliness is what may or may not be true.
He existed, huh?

Evidence plz.
various roman records of him as written by pliny the younger, tacitus and suetonius. Thats all i believe though and i don't believe that Jesus somehow managed to revive himself and performed miracle acts before hand
 

Zachary Unkle

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Yes,but since he's not a natural American citizen,he wouldn't be able to run.
But if he could run and I was able to vote,then yes.
 

norwegian-guy

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In Norway the presidents role is different from the one in USA but put in the theoretical position of me voting for Jesus for president in a nation where the president has real power then I would probably not vote for him.
Yes it woul be because of his religious standpoint. It's not a comment on religion, but on a leader with a strong religious oppinion. 'Specially the kind of oppinion Jesus has in the Bible. If Jesus was given the presidental mantle you can bet the ass of you and everyone you know that he would spend his entire term trying to make christianity not only the national religion, but also make it mandatory to be a christian and worship god, just the way he wants it.
Jesus was after all a missionary, as well as a preacher and so on.
 

Tinygiant

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Probably not, no.

Jesus was a pretty cool dude and all (whether you believe in his divinity or not. Check out Thomas Jefferson's idea on the non-deity Jesus if you don't get what I'm saying), but his political views differed from mine by quite a bit.

Yes, which probably means I'm a bad person.

Oh, well.
 

Blayze2k

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Faladorian said:
Blayze2k said:
Alright, so in summary,
If you define intelligence as the capability to learn, you have no basis to claim that modern people are more inherently intelligent than ancient people. [I mean, for one thing, they were never given IQ tests]

If you define intelligence as accumulated knowledge, you have no basis to claim that modern people know more than ancient people, only that our knowledge is more complex, which is a subjective claim which disregards the big picture.
If you gauge the value of knowledge based on its usefulness instead, then you hit the roadblock that usefulness is completely subjective, and that often our modern methods are inferior to older ones.

If you define intelligence as the size of the human brain, then it's actually as likely to be the opposite of what you claim.

It's been a pleasure debating with you sir.
Apologies if I offended early on.
That's really what needed to happen XD those posts were getting really long.

And you didn't offend me. We both started off kind of nasty, but that always happens at the beginning of a disagreement; it's just a defense mechanism.

This was actually kind of fun, and I intended to respond to each of your quotes but, at the risk of sounding like an unworthy opponent, I really don't feel like it right now haha

Good day, sir :p

Side note: took a little while to realize that whole ordeal was based on one little bullet of mine... wow o_O lol

Let me just change that:
-He probably wasn't all that smart.

Better? XD
Yeah, this is sortof the best possible result for a debate. ^_^ We still disagree a bit, but have come to a mutual understanding and respect. Roll credits. =P

And I *totally* understand. Sometimes responding gets to be too much bother. We had a long debate. I'm satisfied.

Good day to you as well, sir.

Hah, yeah, that's more reasonable. I mean, I'd still disagree, but not based on any sweeping principle, so it wouldn't be worth arguing about for five pages. XD
 

benbenthegamerman

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
I'm pretty sure that "gays are bad" wouldn't be in his speeches. Outside of that, I really don't think I can fill in fictional characters in a voting ballot.

Mod Edit - Stating Jesus is a fictional character does nothing for the OP but does become trolling.
Jesus was an actual person though, right?

right?

Anyway, i would vote for him after i heard what his ideals are.
 

Dys

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Vote for this guy?.....

I'll pass. Also I don't like the idea of religious ideals determining the policy of a politician, democracy implies that the people choose, not a god.
 

samaugsch

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Tanfastic said:
samaugsch said:
Tanfastic said:
Lol @ people saying he didn't exist. He was a real person, whether he did all the stuff that is written about is up for debate.

OT: Sure, he's Jesus and stuff.
Well, if you don't believe in God, you can't believe in Jesus, either, since he is God.
Jesus was a person just as much as Muhammad was. What people don't believe is if they were gods and prophets, only ignorant people don't believe the historical evidence of a person named Jesus, claiming to be a god/prophet, didn't exist. He was a person, just his godliness is what may or may not be true.
So you're saying that it would make more sense to say that the son of God never existed.
 

dante brevity

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Jesus is not a natural-born citizen of the U.S., and is therefore ineligible. If he was naturalized, and lived here for nine years, I might vote for him in a Senate race... if he was a Democrat.