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Dancingman

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Del-Toro said:
Dancingman said:
Del-Toro said:
Actually, the Empire primarily focused on putting down resistance, and aside from the occasional bit of censorship (only against music and films that had "fuck the empire" as their primary point) and blowing up pirates, they left well enough alone. Well, that and the slavery, although typically the people in question did something to piss the Empire off, so it was more like Jail and hard labour, something we have here. Economically, the Galaxy was very strong during the Empire's reign, with goods being less likely to be stolen by pirates for fear of Star Destroyers suddenly appearing to vaporize them.

Besides, the Rebellion was formed by a bunch of sentors when their power started to wane. The only one to survive the war then basically took over galactic governance (albeit with a republic), so I kind of consider the rebels to be like the Sons of Korhal from starcraft. Even after Endor, the Empire kept rolling, although it reformed big time, and never died, even though the Rebellion's legacy did. So yeah, I guess it's time to get fitted for an Army (Not stormtroopers, they had a regular army too) officer's uniform.
The Empire was relatively decentralized in some aspects (such as how the Grand Moffs were pretty much left to their own provided they didn't try to rebel themselves). And actually slavery was specifically reinstated by the Empire, though it survived in the Outer Rim during the Old Republic, during the Empire it became a state-sanctioned trade, and even though most slavery was punitive (i.e. commit a crime, get put into slavery) they still targeted those who would make ideal slaves, such as Wookiees for their strength.

And yeah canonically the Empire functioned as the Imperial Remnant following Endor, it wasn't much until the Fel Dynasty. A series of rebellions, some of which were lead by Imperial warlords, pretty much devastated what was left and made it into the Remnant. But yeah the Empire got much better after Endor, since it wasn't being ruled by people like Tarkin or Palpatine anymore and it pretty much had to drop the racism since they just didn't have enough humans to keep doing what they were doing.

One nitpick though: stormtroopers were the core of the Imperial Army, of course they had some more ragtag groups for enforcement on the Outer Rim but stormtroopers were pretty much the way they kept peace on the ground level. Some Stormtroopers were clone soldiers after the Empire restored its old cloning program (albeit with more clone templates than just Jango Fett since it became clear it was a security risk), but they also opened their ranks up to non-clones and even the occasional alien provided he or she was willing to serve and didn't mind some very unsubtle discrimination. It'd probably be not unlike an African-American serving in the U.S. military in the 40's, under the command of human officers and the only ones that really advance are the ones that prove that they can go above and beyond their human cohorts.
Actually the Imperial Army wasn't just some ragtag group. They operated all walkers and armour in the Imperial Military, and performed defense and planetary garrision duties, as well as attacking strategically nonvital targets. The reason we see the Stormtrooper Corps as much as we do in the movies, whereas the Imperial Army doesn't show up at all, is because Anything of particular strategic importance is entrusted to Stormtroopers, which means everything Luke and the gange are involved with. Think of the Imperial Army as the Star Wars answer the Warhammer 40k's Imperial Guard.
Okay... but the fact of the matter is that Stormtroopers were still used for pretty much anything, they were the backbone of Imperial ground forces. Yes there were AT-AT pilots and other things who weren't in Stormtrooper uniform but they didn't need to be. And when I mentioned rag-tag groups I only meant the occasional, scrounged-together regiments one would find in the Outer Rim (i.e. the backwater of the galaxy, think of it as modern Africa made into Star Wars). I never said that the Imperial Army, the most large and well-funded fighting force for its time, was ragtag in in of itself.

However Stormtroopers were used for garrison duties, they were fairly ubiquitous in that regard, the original film alone showed them being used for three completely different operations: raiding (the Tantive IV), planetary garrison (on Tatooine), and space station garrison (aboard the Death Star). I'm just trying to point out that if you asked an Imperial citizen what is the standard soldier in the Imperial Army he'll direct you to the nearest Stormtrooper. There were certainly unarmored regiments and such and the Stormtroopers did exist separately from the main Imperial Army, more like the US Marine Corps than the Imperial Guard, the latter of which did make up the backbone of armies of the Imperium of Man in WH40K. The Stormtroopers had their own separate command and officers.
 

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SnootyEnglishman said:
The Empire of course. They have the best theme music.

Agreed, a faction with an anthem as awesome as that is worthy of my skills.

I'll take command of my own personal Super Star Destroyer now my lord!

[HEADING=2]Muhaha... MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!![/HEADING]
 

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The empire, simply because they should have won. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoeEdW-EDQ&feature=channel]
 

Del-Toro

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Dancingman said:
Del-Toro said:
Dancingman said:
Del-Toro said:
Actually, the Empire primarily focused on putting down resistance, and aside from the occasional bit of censorship (only against music and films that had "fuck the empire" as their primary point) and blowing up pirates, they left well enough alone. Well, that and the slavery, although typically the people in question did something to piss the Empire off, so it was more like Jail and hard labour, something we have here. Economically, the Galaxy was very strong during the Empire's reign, with goods being less likely to be stolen by pirates for fear of Star Destroyers suddenly appearing to vaporize them.

Besides, the Rebellion was formed by a bunch of sentors when their power started to wane. The only one to survive the war then basically took over galactic governance (albeit with a republic), so I kind of consider the rebels to be like the Sons of Korhal from starcraft. Even after Endor, the Empire kept rolling, although it reformed big time, and never died, even though the Rebellion's legacy did. So yeah, I guess it's time to get fitted for an Army (Not stormtroopers, they had a regular army too) officer's uniform.
The Empire was relatively decentralized in some aspects (such as how the Grand Moffs were pretty much left to their own provided they didn't try to rebel themselves). And actually slavery was specifically reinstated by the Empire, though it survived in the Outer Rim during the Old Republic, during the Empire it became a state-sanctioned trade, and even though most slavery was punitive (i.e. commit a crime, get put into slavery) they still targeted those who would make ideal slaves, such as Wookiees for their strength.

And yeah canonically the Empire functioned as the Imperial Remnant following Endor, it wasn't much until the Fel Dynasty. A series of rebellions, some of which were lead by Imperial warlords, pretty much devastated what was left and made it into the Remnant. But yeah the Empire got much better after Endor, since it wasn't being ruled by people like Tarkin or Palpatine anymore and it pretty much had to drop the racism since they just didn't have enough humans to keep doing what they were doing.

One nitpick though: stormtroopers were the core of the Imperial Army, of course they had some more ragtag groups for enforcement on the Outer Rim but stormtroopers were pretty much the way they kept peace on the ground level. Some Stormtroopers were clone soldiers after the Empire restored its old cloning program (albeit with more clone templates than just Jango Fett since it became clear it was a security risk), but they also opened their ranks up to non-clones and even the occasional alien provided he or she was willing to serve and didn't mind some very unsubtle discrimination. It'd probably be not unlike an African-American serving in the U.S. military in the 40's, under the command of human officers and the only ones that really advance are the ones that prove that they can go above and beyond their human cohorts.
Actually the Imperial Army wasn't just some ragtag group. They operated all walkers and armour in the Imperial Military, and performed defense and planetary garrision duties, as well as attacking strategically nonvital targets. The reason we see the Stormtrooper Corps as much as we do in the movies, whereas the Imperial Army doesn't show up at all, is because Anything of particular strategic importance is entrusted to Stormtroopers, which means everything Luke and the gange are involved with. Think of the Imperial Army as the Star Wars answer the Warhammer 40k's Imperial Guard.
Okay... but the fact of the matter is that Stormtroopers were still used for pretty much anything, they were the backbone of Imperial ground forces. Yes there were AT-AT pilots and other things who weren't in Stormtrooper uniform but they didn't need to be. And when I mentioned rag-tag groups I only meant the occasional, scrounged-together regiments one would find in the Outer Rim (i.e. the backwater of the galaxy, think of it as modern Africa made into Star Wars). I never said that the Imperial Army, the most large and well-funded fighting force for its time, was ragtag in in of itself.

However Stormtroopers were used for garrison duties, they were fairly ubiquitous in that regard, the original film alone showed them being used for three completely different operations: raiding (the Tantive IV), planetary garrison (on Tatooine), and space station garrison (aboard the Death Star). I'm just trying to point out that if you asked an Imperial citizen what is the standard soldier in the Imperial Army he'll direct you to the nearest Stormtrooper. There were certainly unarmored regiments and such and the Stormtroopers did exist separately from the main Imperial Army, more like the US Marine Corps than the Imperial Guard, the latter of which did make up the backbone of armies of the Imperium of Man in WH40K. The Stormtroopers had their own separate command and officers.
I'm just going off of what I have read. I will concede that stormtroopers have been retconned into the standard Imperial soldier to tie in with the prequel trilogy, however I still maintain that at one point they were the Waffen SS to the Imperial Army's Wehrmacht Heer, and that the Army didn't appear in the movies for the aforementioned reasons of strategic unimportance.