Poll: If you could topple FOX news would you?

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jprf

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They have free speech of course, but I see it like this:
If you discovered that a teacher in your school was deliberately spreading lies, propaganda and misinformation to impressionable children, would you let them carry on? Replace the children with a million idiots and you have much the same situation as far as I'm concerned.
 

USSR

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Hell no.
That stuff is hilarious!

But in all seriousness, they have the right to free speech and I have no right to stop their fun.
 

Coffinshaker

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no... cause it's like an exercise in the extremes of free speech. though it's ironic (read: hypocritical) that they often berate and abuse others for exercising their own free speech.
 

aba1

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I just think news casts should have to tell people when they are giving opinions rather than cold hard facts
 

soultrain117

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I voted yes,but I cannot take away their station because they have free speech. However nothing has been said about their right to air.
 

RanD00M

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I would not. They bring me too much hilarity to be stopped. And their interview with Andrew W.K. was funny as hell.
 

XHolySmokesX

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I would topple them withotu a second thought, not mainly because of the misinformation, mainly becasue i'm not a fan of fascist media organisations, and it would be awesome to see the fallout it caused on the american news system and fox as a company.
 

Lone Skankster

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The reports on Fox News are comedy gold. If they go off the air, so does half our material.

I mean, its not like anyone takes them seriously..... right?
 

Kinguendo

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Nope, I would just make them change their name so they arent falsely advertising. So helloooooo FOX Progoganda!
 

Ham_authority95

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bfgmetalhead said:
We know them as one of the biggest suppliers of miss-information and biased smear attacks on popular culture, like games and films.

However free speech is a right and they and I have the right to exercise it. If though, you had the chance to take FOX news down forever or make them change to not be like they are now would you?
If I was in the position to topple them, why wouldn't I take them over and make money rather than waste this opportunity?
 

Jimmybobjr

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Whats fox news

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Is it American

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If yes, Then i dont care

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If no, Is it Australian?

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If no, then i dont care.
 

Pandabearparade

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Well, I wouldn't want them shut down, because I value free speech too highly. Though I think that there should be regulations on what can be legally called a 'news' channel, and Fox should change their channel's name to 'Conservative Spin TV'.
 

sageoftruth

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At this point, I think I'd approve of toppling news altogether. Awful biases seem to exist in almost all news programs. Obviously, I haven't completely thought this one through, because we have to learn about the world somehow, but news appears to do just as much harm as good no matter where I hear it from. Suppose we had government-funded, or better yet, non-profit news programs. If the need for profit and the need to compete with other news programs wasn't such an issue, they'd no longer need to filter out all the good news and the news that doesn't bring in the ratings. They'd no longer feel the need to be entertaining before they're educational. Bottom line is: I want a news program that isn't affected by company bias. Am I missing anything?
 

Saarai-fan

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As far as changing Fox News, yeah, I'd do that not just because it would good for the news business in America, or the people of America, but also for Fox News' own good and perhaps the Republican party's own good. As for toppling it, I think regardless of their ratings, how they are as a news organization as of now won't work in the long run. Perhaps even collapse once we're halfway into this decade of 2010-2019 or at the end of it. And it's all the fault of the guy put in charge of it, Roger Ailes.

First, I'll say why I think it will go through Hell sometime inbetween halfway into this decade or the end of it. As of this moment, I base my opinions largely on the three pillars of sorts of what's keeping it afloat; Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, and Bill O'Reilly. And I base my opinion also on a recent Rolling Stone magazine article based on how Roger Ailes runs Fox. According to the Rolling Stone magazine, Roger Ailes more or less has made Fox News go sharply toward the right that many News Corp executives, News Corp being the parent company that owns Fox, get annoyed by the bad PR it gets and hate Ailes. Only reason why Ailes is keeping his job is because he's gained so much power in Fox News, by firing him, Fox News would probably topple shortly afterword and all the money put into it flushed down the toliet. Also, because he's gained so much power in the News media, American politics, and somewhat within News Corp, Murdoch has somehow come to fear Ailes if he'd stab him in the back.

However, regardless of his standing in Fox News, I don't see Ailes running it halfway into this decade or at the end of it. Murdoch is 80 years old, Ailes is 71. And Bill O'Reilly, the guy who hosts the highest rated program on Fox News, is 60. Just who thinks any one of them will be still at Fox halfway into the decade, or at the end of it? If Bill O'Reilly goes, Fox News loss of it's top rated program will most likely hurt it like how NBC lost their program, "Friends," a long time ago. Huge ratings losses. It's ratings leading up to 8pm and after the program will suffer from it's absence. Thus, that ripple effect on those programs will affect their other programs. Rupert Murdoch I highly doubt will still be running News Corp halfway or at the end of the decade, and since it's been said that Murdoch's family really hates Ailes, I have a strong feeling that Murdoch would see to Ailes being replaced on Fox in his last year running News Corp, or his son James, the heir to his position at News Corp, would do it within his first year or so if his father didn't since it's said he loathes Ailes too. To say to Ailes, you've taken Fox down a path that's too extreme, clean out of your office and be out of the building by the end of the next hour. And if Ailes goes, not only would Ailes be no longer there to manage it with an iron fist, many of the people who have said they'd leave Fox if Ailes goes, like Bill O'Reilly and Neil Calvuto, would go too. With Ailes gone, they'd be a ripple affect of people at Fox quitting it or being fired. After all, the main reason why sometimes people at Fox get away with some of the BS that happens there is due to Ailes backing them up and not punishing them for it.

I also say Fox News needs to change for the good of the Republican Party, is because Ailes has been so successful in organizing and controlling the party with free publicity on Fox, that Republicans can't seem to get any recognition without Fox News' help. It's been said that Fox has turned into the communication wing of the party. Now, people are saying Fox has become the torso of the Republican party. That Republicans are starting to think that Fox doesn't work for them, but that they're working for Fox. I know conservatives and Republicans don't like the majority of the mainstream media because it's mostly liberal biased, but Fox News has gained so much power in effecting Republican politics, it going down the toliet would most likely harm the Republican party greatly. Yes, they'd still have Right wing talk radio, but radio just doesn't have the power of television. Republicans are going to have to learn that they shouldn't depend of Fox to get their viewpoints across. Yes, it means going on networks that will challenge their views and beliefs in a harsher way, but it's unhealthy for something or someone having that much affect on one political party.

And it's not as if I hate Fox. It's my least favorite of the 24 hour news channels, but there are people at the network; like Brett Baier, Shepard Smith, and Chris Wallace who are good reporters and respected journalists. I'd hate to see good journalists get their careers harmed by the network they're on. So if I were Rupert Murdoch and his board of directors, I'd show some damn backbone and start getting tough on Ailes. Tell him he needs to tone down the right wing bias of the network and be true to their slogan, Fair and Balanced. And getting rid of Glenn Beck isn't enough. Get rid of Huckabee's weekend program or get a liberal weekend program which would run before or after it to balance out the weekend programming. Either make Hannity's program a weekday show and have a liberal weekday program to balance it out, or place Hannity again as co-host with a liberal. When it comes to Bill O'Reilly, tell him he also needs to tone down the right wing bias and apologize for some of the trouble he's made for Fox in the year's he's been there. And if he doesn't apologize, suspend him for two to three months and fire his producers to get the point across. Cancel Red Eye. Get rid of contributors like Palin, Coulter, Ingraham, Cheney, Luntz, Morris, and Malkin who are very controversal to have on the network. Also probably change the hosts of Fox & Friends. If Ailes doesn't do much of that, then they might need to bite the bullet and fire the guy. Yes, the network's ratings will get hard by losing him, but if they play their cards right and make good chocies, they can make a decent recovery. I think they'll fall behind CNN in the ratings, but they'd recover to a certain degree.
 

TheSchaef

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Kryzantine said:
He might be a lying SOAB, but he's a lying SOAB that has done everything he can for the district he represents. The fact is, he sticks up for his constituents and doesn't fall on party-line politics.
Or so you assume. As we've established, he can look you dead in the face and tell you the sky is green.

And even if we stipulate that his prime directive is public service, we've already established that he'll go on the floor and lie through his teeth to advance his agenda. It's one thing to lie to save your own ass, but the House debates legislation that impacts the lives of 300 million people. In my opinion, if something with that kind of scope can't be achieved with honesty and decency, I don't see how it can be a moral position to begin with. I am pragmatic but I am not an ends-justify-the-means kind of guy.

And I know you in particular were not talking only about Fox News but I found the approach to his record interesting against the backdrop of this particular topic.
 

Evil Top Hat

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If I was in a position where I could change fox news, then I would gradually make it a more reliable and fair news show. I don't know if I would completely get rid of it given the chance.
 

Valkyrie101

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Get rid of it entirely? Only if MSNBC were removed in a similar fashion. If I could get rid of both and replace them with a totally reliable and unbiased news source, however, I probably would.
 

cartooner2008

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I'd probably topple most mainstream news networks if I could.

However, there is free speech, even if the speech is crazy.