Poll: If you could topple FOX news would you?

[Lord Beautiful]

If we're going to topple Fox News, we need to topple/change MSNBC and CNN as well, since these networks are also guilty of bias and smear campaigns. I live in Atlanta and have heard people call CNN the "Clinton News Network." So, the left-wing bias from both networks is quite obvious, although most people who watch that network probably wouldn't pick up on it. If I had the magic powers to stop Fox News from what they're doing, I would not. At that point, you're taking a way a constitutional right and Fox news, while I disagree with their approach, has made some valid points and from what I've seen have never started any type of violence or caused any pain. Except the forehead bruises from all the face-palming.

But CNN and MSNBC have a liberal bias, thus making them forward-thinking pillars of modern news reporting that we should treasure. Dissenters of the infallible progressive movement shall be burned from society in the purifying flames of our tolerance and open-mindedness for differing opinions. Praise Krugman.

Sarcasm aside, I'm not going to magically banish a television channel from existence because I disagree with most of its editorial programs. That's fascism, and fascism can suck a dick.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Why topple them when they're doing such a great job themselves?

 

[wammnebu]

but if we shut down fox news you guys wont have anything to unite in hatred against

 

[Riff Moonraker]

Nope, I would rather use my efforts to take down MSNBC.

 

[Marmooset]

A lot of fans of totalitarian government on this board. I am disappoint.

And a lot of other people on this board cannot discern between free press and calculated propaganda and misinformation. I'm not really disappointed. The FOX News corporation is a lot closer to the publishers of Tass than it is Peter Zenger. Those who ignore history, and all that.

 

[FalloutJack]

Oh yeah, in a hellish heartbeat. Why? Because there's something I've always wanted to do...

[HEADING=1]This is...JNN, the Jack News Network![/HEADING]

Today's top story, a judge has crushed the 'Edge' guy and I have a show now. Having a show is cool.

 

[William MacKay]

according to another post... they insulted bronies.

seriously though, they insult stuff they dont understand and pass it off as 'news'.

 

[Mr_FJ]

Aw come on, they are my favourite Americans to laugh at!

 

[Exile714]

Yes. How is this even a serious question? Bias is one thing, but Fox Noise gets things wrong on a regular basis on purpose, also known as lying.

I will now provide proof to support my claim.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5914682&mesg_id=5914819
Click the link and be amazed, as those screen captures are real.

Nothing in your link suggests that what they did was on purpose. It looks like typos to me.

Not to say Fox News doesn't lie, just that your argument in support of your position is weak at best. I seriously doubt they labeled John McCain a Democrat on purpose.

Bull*%^&. This has happened too many times and with way too convenient a timing for this to be anything but blatant deception. Circumstantial evidence is still evidence, you just need a lot of it. Also, the mislabeling of Ted Stevens and Mark Sanford came after their sex scandals, a big no-no for any "good" republican, so why wouldn't these sleaze bags try to ease the minds of their ignorant viewers, telling them that the guy that just fell into a pool of steaming hot shit isn't one of their own.

See, now you're introducing hearsay evidence into the equation. "This has happened too many times" is a statement of fact not backed up by your link. If it happened many times, why not post those links too? I know that Fox News runs their banners often, and just as often there are typos in them. Sometimes they misspell words, sometimes the banners don't match the story. Admittedly I'm not on Fox News often enough to know if there is a pattern of mislabeling a person as a Democrat when they do something bad, but your evidence does not convince me at all.

Your argument fails to prove your point, so the only way someone is going to accept it is through a bias-confirmation fallacy. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY FOX NEWS IS BAD, only in your case, it's anti-Fox News bias doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. You're a hypocrite.

 

[TheSchaef]

Now, I'm one of his former constituents, and my respect for the man has been lost, not in that he got caught sending photos of himself to women over Twitter, but that he resigned over this stupid mess. He should have waited another year for Congressional reelection, because even if only 10% of the country likes him at this point, I can guarantee you 80% of his former district still likes him more than the next guy. And really, that's all that matters

This goes to the point made by an earlier poster, about confirmation bias.

Here's a guy who was not the least bit shy about lying to the face of anyone he talked to if it served his purposes. He did it in Congress to smear those who opposed him, and he did it in news interviews to weasel out of it and blame everyone but himself for his own problems. So in the end, you really have no idea if this guy is telling the truth, or half of it, or just flat out lying to your face, because he does all of it with equal amounts of passion. You are forced to fact-check him on anything of substance just on the sheer fact that you have no way to take anything he says at his word.

And yet, (at least some of) his constituents are saying, WE KNOW he's a perv, and that he will tell ANY lie to anyONE and not think twice about it, but we don't care if he's completely untrustworthy, he's OUR cad.

So even if we accept all these accusations against Fox News as true, as the other poster said, there are people who will stand by the things they believe in.

For my part, I'll trade you Fox News for MSNBC. They both make their living off their pundit shows (which I will note is a source of a lot of this news-rage going on), and frankly, the pundit shows have all but destroyed my prior fascination with the American political process, and I just don't watch any cable news any more. I won't miss it. But if they don't go away on their own, I wouldn't presume the authority - legal or moral - to force them out.

 

[ShadowKatt]

I'm just going to go ahead and report 90% of the posts in this thread including the OP. I think that making a thread about Fox News should rank right up there with pedophilia since all it does is devolve into blatant hate, ironicly enough that very same hate that people complain about Fox News propogating.

 

[Da Orky Man]

I would definitely make them change. Fire Bill O'Reilly to begin with. Every debate must have certified evidence from independent researchers.

 

[NeoShinGundam]

But the laws of free speech specifically DO NOT cover blatant lies. You are fully within your right to sue someone over libel or slander. Profanity (like offensive graffiti or select pornography) ARE NOT protected by the First Amendment. It's illegal to yell "FIRE" in a crowded place if there isn't one.

I'm not saying that they should be killed, but why hasn't anyone brought them to task yet? Everyday they get worse and worse, and yet their viewership remains stronger than ever. It's things like this that make me give up on the human race as a whole.

 

[imnot]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA OF Course I bloody would!

 

[Funky Flump]

Yes! Because most of their stories are pointless or so one sided its pointless to call it a story! Im all for free speech but only when its an opinion, they seem to present it as fact and offend a lot of people!

 

[Da Orky Man]

No, im not american, and they entertain me, its funny people get so pissed off.

I finnd it funny this community goes on about freedom alot, but here were see a huge majority silencing something they dont like, ha freedom of speech is ok aslong as you dont disagree with hat they say. I hate hypocrisy.

Freedom of Speech is one thing. Mis-information is another thing. Fox News has had the most facts wrong of any news network anywhere. Bill O'Reilly didn't know how the tides work. They called Mass Effect a porn game, despite being rated a 12 here in the UK.
It's akin to false advertising.

 

[sheah1]

Even if they lie,
even if they suck,
even if they're horrible human beings,
even if they are working for the reapers,
even if they sacrifice newborn babies to Cthulhu every new moon,
even if they try to destroy you and everyone and everything you love,
even if they are the demon spawn of Satan,
even if they made you lose the game,
even if they play consoles,
even if they listen to Beiber,
even if they must feast on the flesh of virgin girls to maintain their immortality,
even if they are worthless as a source of news,
even if The Onion is more reliable,
even if they are all sons of bitches,
even if they are racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes,
even if they led the Covenant to Earth,
even if I disagree with them

they have the right to free speech. All idiots do. I signed up to fight and possibly die to maintain that right. I would not take that away from them.

And if there lies affect the opinions of millions, turning them into racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes, what then?

....That's a genuine question by the by, I'm curious about this....

 

[Tim Mazzola]

No.

Because 1) free speech.

And because 2) THEN who do we make fun of?