Poll: If you could topple FOX news would you?

[Kryzantine]

He might be a lying SOAB, but he's a lying SOAB that has done everything he can for the district he represents. The fact is, he sticks up for his constituents and doesn't fall on party-line politics.

Or so you assume. As we've established, he can look you dead in the face and tell you the sky is green.

And even if we stipulate that his prime directive is public service, we've already established that he'll go on the floor and lie through his teeth to advance his agenda. It's one thing to lie to save your own ass, but the House debates legislation that impacts the lives of 300 million people. In my opinion, if something with that kind of scope can't be achieved with honesty and decency, I don't see how it can be a moral position to begin with. I am pragmatic but I am not an ends-justify-the-means kind of guy.

And I know you in particular were not talking only about Fox News but I found the approach to his record interesting against the backdrop of this particular topic.

I'm not an idiot here. I wouldn't be supporting the guy if he didn't do anything particularly useful, but I've lived in this district for 18 years and there have been significant changes made for the better that are his doing. As such, he's one politician I'd at least like having around. I don't know how good the next Democrat from here will be.

And as for lying to advance his agenda... well, what politician doesn't? If you want politicians getting the boot for defamation, then you shouldn't be expecting any politicians. Yeah, Weiner lies about other people, and other people lie about him. I don't see why that is such a big deal. I do not know a single member of the House that debates such legislation with honesty and decency. There hasn't been such a member, there never will be such a member. That's how Congress was first envisioned, you know. The House was supposed to be rowdy, completely indecent. Real legislative debate is supposed to happen in the Senate.

Anyway, this is horribly off-topic. It's on the verge of being a P&R thread.

 

[Andreas55k]

Only if i was some kind of god who were allowed to trample rules and fuck around... Like god... XD

If im just me... i would walk up to each of them, slap them across the face and then allow them to continue...
Free speech that...
I have to respect that, for i have actually had a person tell me that becource im a commie, i should not be allowed to vote, own, and or speak my mind...
Thats Facist talk, and i dont wanna help the Facists...

 

[Kuilui]

Can I change CNN,msnbc and the other liberal news outlets as well? Watching CNN and msnbc over the years I've seen them say some pretty amazingly retarded things and downright lies and slander. Of course Fox is the only news network that ever gets called out on anything though.

 

[almostgold]

No. They are undeniably, unapologetically biased to the right. But I'm not blinded enough b partisanship to think MSNBC isn't the same to the left, so its a balance. Far-right douchebags have their channel, and left wing idiots have theirs. So what?

Also:

Even if they lie,
even if they suck,
even if they're horrible human beings,
even if they are working for the reapers,
even if they sacrifice newborn babies to Cthulhu every new moon,
even if they try to destroy you and everyone and everything you love,
even if they are the demon spawn of Satan,
even if they made you lose the game,
even if they play consoles,
even if they listen to Beiber,
even if they must feast on the flesh of virgin girls to maintain their immortality,
even if they are worthless as a source of news,
even if The Onion is more reliable,
even if they are all sons of bitches,
even if they are racist, sexist, bigoted homophobes,
even if they led the Covenant to Earth,
even if I disagree with them

they have the right to free speech. All idiots do. I signed up to fight and possibly die to maintain that right. I would not take that away from them.

Well said, sir.

 

[Dusk17]

No, everyone has the right to speak their minds regardless of what they believe

 

[Sean Renaud]

I voted yes but it also depends on what you mean by topple? If you mean I could just expose all the things they are doing and prove they are not a news source they are a propaganda engine and the only reason people think/say the main stream media is liberal is because reality is more liberal than the people making those statements. If you're talking about me using some legal power to shut then down, of course not. Freedom of speech and all.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

No, because then where would The Daily Show and The Colbert Report get all of their material? John Steward recently said that Fox News isn't even making it challenging for his crew to find clips where they contradict themselves.
The type of people who watch--and fully believe--Fox News cannot be reasoned with or shown evidence that proves how wrong Fox is. They'll simply shut their eyes, or worse, start yelling at you and saying you and your evidence are terrorists/un-American. So, let them have their station. I will continue to get my laughs.

I WOULD make them watch the Daily Show though, and then ask them if they realize what they're doing. Do they know that they lie? Do they know they say one thing, then do the complete opposite? Do they understand the type of stuff they put out (because you can't call it 'news'), or do they honestly believe that they are doing nothing but reporting? If they understand what they're doing, then they can keep their job. If they think they're doing nothing but being fair, honest, and "No spin zone," then they're going back to college, perhaps even back to grade school, to get a proper education.

 

[ALuckyChance]

If it's a toss up between hilariousness and the ridding of stupid, discriminatory propoganda that millions of people watch, I damn well hope I'd take the latter.

 

[pspman45]

If we didn't have FOX news to point to as the stereotypical gamer-hater, then that image wouldn't look so boldly in our favor

 

[sheogoraththemad]

yes, free speech or not fox is a retarded bunch of idiots

 

[let's rock]

I would like to, but hay, they have free speech, so sorry, I like the rights stated in the bill of rights, such as carring firearms and freedom of religon

 

[Dan Steele]

I would, its thanks to them gamers are viewed as addicted violent masochists. They're message deserves to be blotted from the face of the earth.

 

[VanTesla]

I would end all media that uses propaganda and fear if I could! So yes.

 

[TheLaofKazi]

I would gladly topple Fox news (and pretty much every other news or media corporation or conglomerate out there), and I would replace it's programming with a bunch of crazy-awesome stuff that more people need to watch.

Yes, freedom of speech, even if I disagree with it, that's cool and all. Yes, they have the legal right to do what they do, but so do tobacco companies and the many other corporations that exploit people and influence the government. The rules aren't generally in favor of the people, so I say fuck them.

Although I bet you something terribly bad would come out of this. News Corporation (the entity that owns Fox News and many other things) is a powerful, influential group. They would use that to persuade people and play up on their emotions and fears, as they always do, to get people on their side. But maybe something great could come out of this too. I don't know.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Actually... Some of Fox news isnt that bad. Dont get me wrong, a very large portion is shit, but there's some good in it too.

Would I? no. Just cause then I'd have to hear EVERY SINGLE DAMN TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVE ***** to me about how the government is keeping them down, and Obama is evil and is trying to ruin the country and how the Democrats and liberals dont know how to run a country and how....

And then it just stops cause I usually walk away or cant hear them over the sound of my fist breaking a few teeth.

So long and short, no, just i cause i dont wnat the head ache.

 

[MK Tha Rebel]

hmm topple isn't the word i would use. purge with fire and salt yep that's the word

Basically this, except replace "Salt" with "Bullets, acid, and more fire." Fox News doesn't deserve to be seasoned in any way.

 

[Seives-Sliver]

Yes I would topple them, even with free speech and all, they make the premeditated choice to spout ill-informed stuff at people, and even more, they use very biased studies to prove their points, and that's only if they use anything at all.