Poll: If your country was invaded, would you join a resistance?

[SovietSecrets]

Course. Not going down without a fight.

 

[Scrubiii]

That would depend whether the resistance looked like it had any hope of winning or if it's members were being massacred in the streets while the occupying force had yet to suffer a casualty.

 

[lcyw20]

Yes. First, my country would likely laugh it's rear end off at an invasion on the united states(may I introduce you to a magical thing called a "history book"), then teach you the same lesson we taught Britain, Mexico, Germany, Japan, Germany again, and Al Queida(eat it, Osama).

Rule #1 of history: Don't attack America. Rule #2 Don't invade Russia in winter.

Canada would like a word about the first white house, and Washington DC for that matter, something about flammability?

[edit] also come to think of it, Britain never invaded the US, nor did Germany or Japan for that matter. Hell Germany never even attacked the mainland US bar the odd submarine roaming your coastline.

Britain invaded the US during the war of 1812, Germany tried to organize an invasion of America with Mexico's assistance, and Japan occupied a few Alaskan islands.

No nation is indestructible, nor invulnerable to invasion. Look at all the great empires in the past, all were rich, powerful, glorious, and one by one, they withered. Bloated, weakened, corrupted, attacked from both the inside and outside. The Empires of Egypt, Persia, Babylon, Rome, Inca, the Mughal, Ottoman, Germany, Mongols, all gone; China waxed and waned over numerous dynasties and periods of unification and separation; the British Empire, now the Commonwealth, no longer in control of its former colonies...

Even today, experts are seeing signs very similar to a decaying empire in the USA. The tree that is the country still looks quite splendid, aside from a few yellow leaves and barren branches, but it has started to rot from the roots. When this large tree finally falls, it will leave a void, much like a scar.

 

[dancinginfernal]

Realistically: No. I'm an out-of-shape, scrawny, cowardly, 16-year-old boy who has never shot a gun or been in a major leadership role in his life. I wouldn't be any more use to the resistance than my 12-year-old brother.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

I guess by default yes.
I have anarchist leanings, and I'm most loyal to my friends.
So I'd basically fight/help keep my friends alive.
No nationalism/patriotism/great ideological goal/must get the invaders out here though. Just survival.

 

[Ace of Spades]

If someone were to invade the U.S., I would help the resistance. I'd be a pretty crappy soldier though.

 

[akibawall95]

Depends on the situation and what country it is, probably not because it is in my best interest to stay alive.

 

[CondorBob]

I'd most likely join. Just depends on the first few weeks of occupation. If they're gunning down people in the streets (assuming I'm not one of those casualties), I'd be all for some partisan warfare.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

Relevant (from 1:33 at least)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IgWJgg-rWQ

I'm with Mark, far too cowarldy to cause a ruckus. Although perhaps brave (desperate) enough to attempt exile.

 

[Blue Musician]

I was pleasantly surprised to see Marsden's Tommorow When The War Began made into a movie. Okay, it was teensy, and didnt realy do justice to the book, but still, it got me thinking...

What would you do if your home country was invaded? Say by a significant enemy force- armoured divisions with air support.

Personally, I'd try and link up with my home country's armed forces. Get some training and fight as a straight up soldier... if I could. Otherwise, just be a sneaky fuck and make life difficult for the occupier. Drain oil from engines. Set fire to tents. I've little knowledge of chemistry but I'm sure an Anarchists Cookbook can be arranged somewhere. Thing is: being a full scale insurgent is dangerous when the army starts hunting you back- and not just for you. Family, neighbours. If things were looking bad enough for it, I think I could start building IEDs, before vanishing into the wilderness with some of our family's hunting rifles.

I have a better question. If the country which you lived in had a semi-fascist country which decided to start a war against drug dealers. 37,000 people dead last month, before the end of this month it will be 38,000. Hate, Greed, Death and Fear are everyday things to the point that it becomes part of you. Now, what would you do? Would you join the military, the drug dealers or just stand back, watching?

What I did was leave the country, and I was lucky enough to be able to do that.

 

[Shock and Awe]

I am joining the military so thats already decided for me whether or not to fight, but assuming it is before I join I would still fight. Guys gotta fight for what he believes right? Id probably just travel in the woods and use hit and run tactics with a small group. Hit hard, hit fast, steal the dead guys' kit.

 

[McPulse]

Violence is a perfectly acceptable answer to a lot of things.

As I said, railgun->zombies.

 

[Grayjack]

I would, although I'm most likely joining the Air Force soon.

 

[Dalek Caan]

It depends really, if it's my country of birth then yes, I will gladly defend my queen and king(England). But if it is the country I am living in now then no, I wouldn't defend Ireland, only the few people I like that I could safely get to England.

 

[fooddood3]

Yes. First, my country would likely laugh it's rear end off at an invasion on the united states(may I introduce you to a magical thing called a "history book"), then teach you the same lesson we taught Britain, Mexico, Germany, Japan, Germany again, and Al Queida(eat it, Osama).

Rule #1 of history: Don't attack America. Rule #2 Don't invade Russia in winter.

Canada would like a word about the first white house, and Washington DC for that matter, something about flammability?

[edit] also come to think of it, Britain never invaded the US, nor did Germany or Japan for that matter. Hell Germany never even attacked the mainland US bar the odd submarine roaming your coastline.

Britain invaded the US during the war of 1812, Germany tried to organize an invasion of America with Mexico's assistance, and Japan occupied a few Alaskan islands.

No nation is indestructible, nor invulnerable to invasion. Look at all the great empires in the past, all were rich, powerful, glorious, and one by one, they withered. Bloated, weakened, corrupted, attacked from both the inside and outside. The Empires of Egypt, Persia, Babylon, Rome, Inca, the Mughal, Ottoman, Germany, Mongols, all gone; China waxed and waned over numerous dynasties and periods of unification and separation; the British Empire, now the Commonwealth, no longer in control of its former colonies...

Even today, experts are seeing signs very similar to a decaying empire in the USA. The tree that is the country still looks quite splendid, aside from a few yellow leaves and barren branches, but it has started to rot from the roots. When this large tree finally falls, it will leave a void, much like a scar.

I'm not sure if you were responding to me personally or...
Regardless, the claims that the US is in a state of unprecedented decay are as sensationalist as they are unfounded. From an economic perspective, the country is in the recovery stage of a minor recession. In the 1930's the nation's GDP fell a staggering 29.3% due to questionable stock market practices. Three decades later, the nations GDP again suffered a noticeable blow when it's GDP fell 3.8%. The current recession has only caused a contraction of around 1.5%, and as previously stated it is in the process of recovery.
I'm unsure what other signs you could be referring to.

 

[Agent Larkin]

Nope.

Only country that would logically (and I use that term very loosely) invade my country would be Britain. And I welcome my new British overlords as long as they bring a competent government, the removal of Irish as an official language and keep the Orangemen on a leash when they take over.

If they do the occupation right this time around I doubt the Republicans would get so much support. And chances are by the time i'm in old age the country would be a dominion.

 

[Rex Fallout]

No-one ever said that Art or Videogames had to be different in a Communist society. You're thinking China on that. In the Soviet Union, sure there was a lot of art praising Stalin, but there was also a lot of regular art, too. And Tetris certainly wasn't a game that praised Stalin. Sure, games like Call of Duty MW2 might not have been allowed in the Soviet Union, but you have no proof that there would be games with less quality than games today. No-one said that intellectuals would be killed in a Communist society. If he did, than Marx was truely an idiot. Science and Technology are always needed to keep a nation competitive and able to defend itself. A Communist nation also doesn't have to be Communist economically, as China showed. They're a Communist government, but they have a Capitalist economy. That would also work with other Communist nations. If the Soviet Union had worked like that, they would've won the Space Race.

First off, there was very little art in the soviet union, and there were little to no intellectuals that were individuals in the nation either. Most art praised Stalin or whoever the dictator was at the time, and the intellectuals... well, ever heard of the Great Purge? Anyways, this is irrelevant. Its a fact that communist nations regularly censor the arts, (ie China, USSR, North Korea, Cuba) but then we'd get on the topic that they aren't truly Marxist nations and I'm already arguing this with someone else in this thread even.

The PRC does not have a true capitalist economy. They work their people like slaves for other nation's corperations by paying them like 30 cents an hour. Then of course they ship the products to America and other western nations and make a hefty profit. It's slave labor, not true capitalism. And it's no doubt that capitalism could have helped the USSR but they were so against it. Their people were starving in the streets and Stalin didn't really give a fuck. The USSR didn't do that because they were trying to be Marxist. To out right say that they would embrace capitalism would not have saved their nation but created riots, they had over thrown the previous leaders by CALLING them 'filthy capitalist pigs'. The people probably wouldnt have gone for it right away.

Now have you read the communist manifesto? It's a little book written by Karl Marx and... oh what was his first name? Something Engels. It outlined what they thought would happen to the world. Now, I haven't read the whole thing yet, (really need to get around that, its on my list right below the complete works of William Shakespeare and Canterbury Tales) But from what I have read they tought that the old world had to be destroyed, old organizations corperations... individuals. You see human nature had to be changed so that everyone served their brother. Capitalism would die and the Socialism and Commmunism would take its place. With the individual dead where is youre art? They would destroy most records of history to make sure that no one got any ideas from the past, they would outlaw most forms of entertainment- video games of course would not be permitted, they are not viewed as important to the state. Say what you want but this is what that book TEACHES. I did not make this up. Try and delude yourself with ideas that everything will be the same. It won't. At all. Read Anthem, 1984, Animal Farm- and you may see what I'm talking about.

And on Religion in this post: So, if Religion gives a sense of morals, than it's moral to murder thousands of Jews, or claim defense to cover up destruction of a nation using cowardly tactics and targeting innocent people?

If I could, I'd bet everyone in this thread 5 British Pounds that I'll get flamed, and maybe even reported for this (and the previous sentance), but it seems to me that there'd be a lot less violence in the world if everyone was an Athiest.

What are you referencing? And yes it does create a sense of morals- if you follow it the way it is supposed to be. To quote Ghandi- "It is sad that you Christians are so very Unlike your Christ." The fact is that most people don't tolerate others well, even when the religion they are using to attack others has a man in it that says to tolerate others. Christ wanted us to show love to others, not curses them in the streets. He didn't want for people to try and create laws to outlaw other people's beliefs, he wanted us to tolerate them, and by showing them our love and respect, they would know Christ. Few do this though. It is unlikely you have met a real christian who actually acts the way they should.

Throughout human history we have given ourselves special names, 'romans', 'americans', 'greeks', and then fought to the death to decide what name is better. This cycle can be seen in religion as well. People don't like to just sit by while other people do their thing, they vehemently (sp?) attack them. You want to blame someone for this? Don't blame the religion that teaches tolerance and love. Blame the humans that couldn't keep their hands clean of human blood long enough to brush their teeth.

And no no one is going to report you for that post. Obviously you haven't been on the escapist long. I've been attacked far more often by Atheists than anyone else, even when I did nothing to deserve it.

 

[Your once and future Fanboy]

I'm from Norway, for those of you who have read up on your WW2 history, that's nuff' said!

 

[meowchef]

If they allowed it. I've been refused access to joining our Air Force due to being someone colorblind. Not enough that it could possibly affect anything though.

 

[Hawkeye16]

I would take up arms in a moment to defend the US from those damn Soviet Canadians!